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Seinfeld

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My wife is about to inherit some investments from a parent that are essentially split between a traditional IRA and a brokerage account, and I’ve been reading as much as I can about tax implications and whatnot, but this is pretty much our first rodeo with anything like this.

Any advice or potential pitfalls that any of you have learned along the way?
 

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My wife is about to inherit some investments from a parent that are essentially split between a traditional IRA and a brokerage account, and I’ve been reading as much as I can about tax implications and whatnot, but this is pretty much our first rodeo with anything like this.

Any advice or potential pitfalls that any of you have learned along the way?
Make sure you’re getting a potential step up in basis on the taxable account
 

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My wife is about to inherit some investments from a parent that are essentially split between a traditional IRA and a brokerage account, and I’ve been reading as much as I can about tax implications and whatnot, but this is pretty much our first rodeo with anything like this.

Any advice or potential pitfalls that any of you have learned along the way?
You're probably only going to have ten years to withdraw everything from the IRA, so you need to think about tax implications of that. If you don't expect any major career shakeups for you and your wife, you probably want to take those in something approaching equal distributions over the next ten years. Need to pay attention to what happens with the Big Beautiful Bill. If they aren't going to get something passed that extends tax rates, may want to go ahead and take a substantial distribution this year.
 

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I have delt with the traditional but not sure about the brokerage account. The rules or crazy. I am assuming her parent passed away. There are two types of beneficiaries. One is Eligible Designated Beneficiaries which is a surviving spouse, minor Child, disabled individual. The other is Designated Beneficiary who is not one of the ones I mention. There are a few rules for Eligible that differs if the owner is at required distribution age.

I am thinking you wife is a Designated Beneficiary and she only has two options. Lump Sum or distribution over 10 years.
 
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My wife is about to inherit some investments from a parent that are essentially split between a traditional IRA and a brokerage account, and I’ve been reading as much as I can about tax implications and whatnot, but this is pretty much our first rodeo with anything like this.

Any advice or potential pitfalls that any of you have learned along the way?
How much we talking? Is your wife single?
 

Seinfeld

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Make sure you’re getting a potential step up in basis on the taxable account
This boggled my mind when I was reading about it last week, but on a standard brokerage account, am I understanding correctly that the cost basis resets to current value when she inherits it?
 

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My wife is about to inherit some investments from a parent that are essentially split between a traditional IRA and a brokerage account, and I’ve been reading as much as I can about tax implications and whatnot, but this is pretty much our first rodeo with anything like this.

Any advice or potential pitfalls that any of you have learned along the way?
Consider a good tax attorney for advice if the amount is substantial.
 

8dog

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This boggled my mind when I was reading about it last week, but on a standard brokerage account, am I understanding correctly that the cost basis resets to current value when she inherits it?
Yes. As long as the person that died, owned the brokerage account -in other words it wasn’t in a trust or some other sort of vehicle.
 
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I would get a good tax accountant and a good financial advisor, things change so quickly, and you need someone who keeps up with changes.
 
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My wife is about to inherit some investments from a parent that are essentially split between a traditional IRA and a brokerage account, and I’ve been reading as much as I can about tax implications and whatnot, but this is pretty much our first rodeo with anything like this.

Any advice or potential pitfalls that any of you have learned along the way?

If you can provide the login and password to these accounts I will take a look at them and let you know the best path forward. Thanks!
 

DesotoCountyDawg

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Get a CPA to look at it all and give you all the scenarios with tax implications. There’s so much out there now in the tax law you can easily misstep and cost yourself money.
 
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horshack.sixpack

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I keep giving this advice to "younger" people but a great accountant will make you money. I wish someone had told me sooner.
Anyone know a great accountant in the Jackson area? My assumptions have always been that my finances aren’t that complicated and my tax prep has never been something TurboTax couldn’t handle. Maybe I’m missing something.
 

patdog

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Make sure you’re getting a potential step up in basis on the taxable account
Yes. Her basis in any assets. Real estate, investments, etc. is the fair value on the date of death. You get that automatically so nothing she needs to do other than bd aware that’s the rule. This is also a reason it’s better for older parents to let the kids inherit any appreciated property rather than give it to them during their lifetime.
 

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You're probably only going to have ten years to withdraw everything from the IRA, so you need to think about tax implications of that. If you don't expect any major career shakeups for you and your wife, you probably want to take those in something approaching equal distributions over the next ten years. Need to pay attention to what happens with the Big Beautiful Bill. If they aren't going to get something passed that extends tax rates, may want to go ahead and take a substantial distribution this year.
Good advice. Not sure but I think they came out with guidance you’re supposed to take it equally over the 10 years. But even if you can wait, you don’t want to get into a situation where you’re paying a lot of tax at the 39% bracket.
 

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This boggled my mind when I was reading about it last week, but on a standard brokerage account, am I understanding correctly that the cost basis resets to current value when she inherits it?
This is correct. If a stock was bought for $1,000 40 years ago & is worth $1,000,000 on date of death, your wife’s basis is $1,000,000.
 
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Yes. As long as the person that died, owned the brokerage account -in other words it wasn’t in a trust or some other sort of vehicle.
In some trusts you would still get step up in basis. In others you’d be stuck with the decedents original basis.
 

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In some trusts you would still get step up in basis. In others you’d be stuck with the decedents original basis.
Yes. If they got the marital deduction or there’s a power of appointment, you would get a step up basis. And yes, it’s automatic however custodians and investment managers Don’t know that so typically need to notify them so they actually changed the system for 1099s
 

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Anyone know a great accountant in the Jackson area? My assumptions have always been that my finances aren’t that complicated and my tax prep has never been something TurboTax couldn’t handle. Maybe I’m missing something.
If you work a normal 8-5 with no property or investments/side hustles then you don't need one. I've done real estate flipping, investments, farms etc. and hiring an accountant was the best thing I ever did. Self-employed it's a must IMO!
 
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My wife is about to inherit some investments from a parent that are essentially split between a traditional IRA and a brokerage account, and I’ve been reading as much as I can about tax implications and whatnot, but this is pretty much our first rodeo with anything like this.

Any advice or potential pitfalls that any of you have learned along the way?
I’m a CPA. You do have 10 years to take the IRA money out. So depending on how much it is, with the time value of money, it’s best to let it grow tax free as long as you can.
Also the above comments are correct on the step up in basis, but any good brokerage will handle that for you.
 
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I don't know about stock inheritance, but I'm dealing with my mom's estate from when she died in February. She had a will and I was basically the sole beneficiary. She did have my two kids listed getting a couple of small things. Pisses me off that despite this it still has to go through 17ing probate. What is the purpose of having a will if I still have to spend months on a judge to stamp off on it? Not like we're talking a massive estate here. Just her little house and car. Not even any life insurance money.
 

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Good advice. Not sure but I think they came out with guidance you’re supposed to take it equally over the 10 years. But even if you can wait, you don’t want to get into a situation where you’re paying a lot of tax at the 39% bracket.
They came out and said if the decedent was already taking RMDs then you have to take at least an RMD each year and also fully exhaust the account at the end of year 10 if left to a non-spouse
 
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Good advice. Not sure but I think they came out with guidance you’re supposed to take it equally over the 10 years. But even if you can wait, you don’t want to get into a situation where you’re paying a lot of tax at the 39% bracket.
Don’t have to take it out equally just has to be withdrawn within 10 years. Also it’s 37% max now
 

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I’m a CPA. You do have 10 years to take the IRA money out. So depending on how much it is, with the time value of money, it’s best to let it grow tax free as long as you can.
Also the above comments are correct on the step up in basis, but any good brokerage will handle that for you.
Time value of money! Takes me back to Dr. King's classes! I blame him for getting me into the business investments & the bourbon. Good times!
 

The Cooterpoot

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I don't know about stock inheritance, but I'm dealing with my mom's estate from when she died in February. She had a will and I was basically the sole beneficiary. She did have my two kids listed getting a couple of small things. Pisses me off that despite this it still has to go through 17ing probate. What is the purpose of having a will if I still have to spend months on a judge to stamp off on it? Not like we're talking a massive estate here. Just her little house and car. Not even any life insurance money.
MS sucks again! We're way past this but it's like the ABC. Wills are pretty worthless here unless there's a conflict amongst those in the inheritance.
 

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Good advice. Not sure but I think they came out with guidance you’re supposed to take it equally over the 10 years. But even if you can wait, you don’t want to get into a situation where you’re paying a lot of tax at the 39% bracket.
That's really a good problem to have. I wish I was in that tax bracket.
 

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If you work a normal 8-5 with no property or investments/side hustles then you don't need one. I've done real estate flipping, investments, farms etc. and hiring an accountant was the best thing I ever did. Self-employed it's a must IMO!
Nothing normal about my always on call work schedule but I am a W2 employee these days with pretty normal investments that have limited international exposure.
 
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MS sucks again! We're way past this but it's like the ABC. Wills are pretty worthless here unless there's a conflict amongst those in the inheritance.

This is where Trusts are handy. However, in 2021 the legislature made Trusts publish for creditors for 90 days before you can sell the real property. Wills are good to avoid heirship conflict and make specific gifts. But estate attorneys should really consider other options for real property to avoid probate.
 

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I don't know about stock inheritance, but I'm dealing with my mom's estate from when she died in February. She had a will and I was basically the sole beneficiary. She did have my two kids listed getting a couple of small things. Pisses me off that despite this it still has to go through 17ing probate. What is the purpose of having a will if I still have to spend months on a judge to stamp off on it? Not like we're talking a massive estate here. Just her little house and car. Not even any life insurance money.
It's to protect creditors and potential beneficiaries under a will or heirs if there is no will. If you let people dispose of deceased assets without the courts, any assets would likely be gone before any unsecured creditor knew there was a death. You'd also have tons of situations where somebody with close control abused their access to dispose of stuff without an accounting.
 
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This boggled my mind when I was reading about it last week, but on a standard brokerage account, am I understanding correctly that the cost basis resets to current value when she inherits it?
That is correct. If the decedent owned the account, then the beneficiary inherits the after-tax account with a stepped up basis (rationale is that taxes were paid before $ going in, so tax free growth is the attraction). The retirement accounts are the opposite, they are taxed as ordinary income to the beneficiary generally. However, in limited cases, if the decedent was not required to take a RMD (died before age 73), that may change the way you choose to receive it.
 
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If you have an estate that includes real property of any kind, you should have a trust. They are valuable for liability reasons, privacy reasons, and obvious financial reasons. They don't have to be complicated.

Rules of publication don't necessarily mean that a creditor has a right of recovery of an asset titled in a trust's name.
 
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I don't know about stock inheritance, but I'm dealing with my mom's estate from when she died in February. She had a will and I was basically the sole beneficiary. She did have my two kids listed getting a couple of small things. Pisses me off that despite this it still has to go through 17ing probate. What is the purpose of having a will if I still have to spend months on a judge to stamp off on it? Not like we're talking a massive estate here. Just her little house and car. Not even any life insurance money.
I’m sorry about your mom’s death. Probate is the process by which a Will is given legal effect. It is just a piece of paper until it is “proven” by the chancery court.

The process has one important benefit most people don’t realize and that is a court adjudication at the closing of the estate that the beneficiaries now own the property free and clear of the decedent’s creditors. Without that, potential buyers of your mother’s home who will finance the purchase with a traditional mortgage would not be potential purchasers because the mortgage cannot be sold on the secondary markets. So as a practical matter, her home would not be marketable to most purchasers until 3 years after her death when the general statute of limitations runs.
 
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My wife is about to inherit some investments from a parent that are essentially split between a traditional IRA and a brokerage account, and I’ve been reading as much as I can about tax implications and whatnot, but this is pretty much our first rodeo with anything like this.

Any advice or potential pitfalls that any of you have learned along the way?
Is this because of a parent passing away or is it a gift? Totally different implications for each.