OT: Jackson Mayor's race, Is Johnathan Lee gonna be able to pull it out, opine
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I think more of Harvey's voters will vote for Lee than for Lumumba. I also think Lumumba's ward really turned out for him, but I don't see him gaining a lot of support from the other wards (though I didn't see the returns).
/I hope
/I hope
The Chicago racist spent nothing in the primary and garnered nearly 1/4 of the votes cast. He has a war chest with which to attack lee as the white man's lacquey. Mr lee is about to experience some Chicago style politics. Will it work? I suspect it will.
That's going to be a very interesting, and important, runoff election. Lee got 10% more than Lumumba, but there are still another 40% that went for other candidates. I suspect most of those that vote in the runoff will go to Lumumba. Still cautiously optimistic that Lee will win, but I think it'll be close. This could be the best thing that's happened for Jackson since Ditto was voted out or the worst disaster ever. And it will affect all of us in the metro area either way.
I pray that he does. Just is crazy that people can vote for someone who has publicly stated he won't sing the national anthem or say the pledge of allegiance.
http://www.clarionledger.com/articl...ssippi-news-has-people-talking?nclick_check=1
http://www.clarionledger.com/articl...ssippi-news-has-people-talking?nclick_check=1
I think you are correct. I remember when Johnson won last time, the other candidate (forgot his name) from South Jackson was supported by voters in Northeast Jackson, but lost by a significant margin. I would be surprised if there wasn't a similar result this time with Lumumba the winner.
I'll just leave this:
http://uhurunews.com/story?resource...e-lumumba-for-jackson-mississippi-mayoral-bid
http://uhurunews.com/story?resource...e-lumumba-for-jackson-mississippi-mayoral-bid
You're thinking of Marshand Crisler, but he didn't have the support that Lee has, as Crisler got just below 27 percent of the vote. Lumumba ran for Ward 2 Councilman that year as well and won in the runoff-- receiving just under 42 percent of the vote in the primary and just over 60 percent in the runoff.
May 5, 2009 Democratic Primary:
Dorothy "Dot" Benford (DEM) 99 0.293%
Marshand K Crisler (DEM) 9097 26.914%
Eddie J Fair (DEM) 1268 3.751%
John Horhn (DEM) 5922 17.521%
Harvey Johnson (DEM) 9380 27.751%
Robert L Johnson (DEM) 1380 4.083%
John H Jones Jr (DEM) 169 0.500%
Frank Melton (DEM) 6151 18.198%
Brenda R Scott (DEM) 288 0.852%
Jabari A Toins (DEM) 46 0.136%
COUNCIL MEMBER - WARD 2 <br>Donald Beard (DEM) 441 7.240%
Clarence Bolls Sr. (DEM) 246 4.039%
Wydett U Hawkins (DEM) 1133 18.601%
Chokwe Lumumba (DEM) 2539 41.684%
Vance "Sigg" Siggers (DEM) 314 5.155%
Tom Stingley (DEM) 822 13.495%
Stacey Webb (DEM) 323 5.303%
Verna L White (DEM) 273 4.482%
May 19, 2009 Runoff:
Marshand K Crisler (DEM) 12308 36.993%
Harvey Johnson (DEM) 20963 63.007%
COUNCIL MEMBER - WARD 2 <br> Wydett U Hawkins (DEM) 2474 39.364%
Chokwe Lumumba (DEM) 3811 60.636%
May 5, 2009 Democratic Primary:
Dorothy "Dot" Benford (DEM) 99 0.293%
Marshand K Crisler (DEM) 9097 26.914%
Eddie J Fair (DEM) 1268 3.751%
John Horhn (DEM) 5922 17.521%
Harvey Johnson (DEM) 9380 27.751%
Robert L Johnson (DEM) 1380 4.083%
John H Jones Jr (DEM) 169 0.500%
Frank Melton (DEM) 6151 18.198%
Brenda R Scott (DEM) 288 0.852%
Jabari A Toins (DEM) 46 0.136%
COUNCIL MEMBER - WARD 2 <br>Donald Beard (DEM) 441 7.240%
Clarence Bolls Sr. (DEM) 246 4.039%
Wydett U Hawkins (DEM) 1133 18.601%
Chokwe Lumumba (DEM) 2539 41.684%
Vance "Sigg" Siggers (DEM) 314 5.155%
Tom Stingley (DEM) 822 13.495%
Stacey Webb (DEM) 323 5.303%
Verna L White (DEM) 273 4.482%
May 19, 2009 Runoff:
Marshand K Crisler (DEM) 12308 36.993%
Harvey Johnson (DEM) 20963 63.007%
COUNCIL MEMBER - WARD 2 <br> Wydett U Hawkins (DEM) 2474 39.364%
Chokwe Lumumba (DEM) 3811 60.636%
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And that is the problem. Not many of those left in Jackson. Unfortunately, the representative republic that we are is working perfectly. Jackson leadership reflects its population. I doubt that our founding fathers envisioned that we could ever get to having people who don't pay taxes, don't work, don't even own their own piece of the good ole US of A and practically hate it vote themselves entitlements while sending the country into a financial tailspin, all the while being completely incompetent to even understand the economics of what they are doing. I don't know what the answer is, but just turning 18 and having no other redeeming qualities makes you question if that is all that should be necessary to vote.
It's crazy, but historically, most "empires" lasted about 200 years. Everything post 1976 is gravy for us! I kid...but only a little...
Interesting. I graduated high school with Johnathan, had no clue he had gotten himself into the political realm. Dude is a super great guy, very smart & a very big Dawg fan. Him winning would be the best thing to happen to Jackson since Kiefer's was built.
I agree with you, but don't get your hopes up. Nothing surprises me about Jackson any more.
Unfortunately I think a Lee/Lumumba runoff is the worst scenario for Lee.
The Race goes from being a referendum on Harvey Johnson and the state of Jackson to being a referendum on Race. And yes the irony is that they are both African American. My gut tells me Lumumba wins pretty handily.
And if Chokwe wins I really don't have positive views on what will happen in Jackson. I see an acceleration of major businesses/services moving out not to mention population. (full disclosure I now live in Madison, the county not the city)
The Race goes from being a referendum on Harvey Johnson and the state of Jackson to being a referendum on Race. And yes the irony is that they are both African American. My gut tells me Lumumba wins pretty handily.
And if Chokwe wins I really don't have positive views on what will happen in Jackson. I see an acceleration of major businesses/services moving out not to mention population. (full disclosure I now live in Madison, the county not the city)
They won't now that you've exposed him as a Bulldog. Now Conundrum wins in a landslide! Oh, the humanity!
May as well... Lee is already being accused of getting stealth Republican help
Which of course is part of the game to paint him as being non-Black.
Which of course is part of the game to paint him as being non-Black.
You sound like the kind of guy who would just give up and move to Madison. This may be an old joke, but it's Jonathan Lee or For Sale for me. I bought a house in Hinds County in August, and will put that mother right back on the market before I live in a town for which he is the mayor. I know that sounds cliche, but it's a lot easier to move to Madison County than Canada.
This election is exhibit "A" for MSU not making any future commitments to hold sporting events in our beloved capital. The fact that Lumumba even has a legitimate chance to be mayor is a testimony to the volatility of the place. If Lumumba doesn`t get elected this time at some point someone of his ilk will. It is another Detroit waiting to happen. I know a number of you passionately defend the place and I`m happy that you are happy with your home but if I were you I would be at least be thinking about an exit strategy.
Yep, people need to do a little Google searching to find out what this guy is all about. He scares the **** out of a lot of African Americans too.
I believe this is one of the most important local elections in decades. There were some positives from the city council races. If Lee can somehow win, it will be the best leadership the city has seen in a long time. If he doesn't, I am probably gone as well and I am one of the more ardent supporters of the Bold New City.
I believe this is one of the most important local elections in decades. There were some positives from the city council races. If Lee can somehow win, it will be the best leadership the city has seen in a long time. If he doesn't, I am probably gone as well and I am one of the more ardent supporters of the Bold New City.
And some more light reading:
http://www.freedomarchives.org/Docu...r.vs.us.supreme.district.court.10.31.1987.pdf
http://www.freedomarchives.org/Docu...r.vs.us.supreme.district.court.10.31.1987.pdf
So let me get this straight,are you chastising someone for being the kind of guy that would just give up, yet you are doing the same if someone wins an election. Ted Cruz approves this message.
im actually the kind of guy who grew up in clinton and when i moved back to ms realized that madisons finest asset was having ridgeland between it and jackson. im certainly not the kind of guy who would buy a house in hinds county in 2012. besides the semi joking paranoia, what about the post did you not agree with? gentrify on my man, gentrify on...
also, ive never lived in jackson so i couldnt have "given up" on anything, although im at a loss as to what that would be
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I'm hopeful that if Jonathan Lee wins....
that we can start working on this attitude that what happens to Jackson doesn't affect the entire metro area and state as a whole. A vibrant and viable capital city is critical for Madison County, Rankin County, and the state as a whole.
that we can start working on this attitude that what happens to Jackson doesn't affect the entire metro area and state as a whole. A vibrant and viable capital city is critical for Madison County, Rankin County, and the state as a whole.
i wish. unfortunately it leaks out of jackson so i have to be concerned about it. if lee gets elected there may be some hope...