OT: Lauderdale County Juvenile center...

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It's truly telling when you have repeat offenders who are NOT encouraged to stay out of jail, but instead would rather go back so they can have 3 meals they didn't work for, a bed they don't have to pay for, a/c they don't pay for, cable tv they don't pay for, and education and gym facilities they don't have to pay for.
Here's a novel idea: make prison/jail NOT so comfortable!

BTW, I know this isn't what you were saying, but I thought I'd point out how NOT bad prison is for those criminals. For some, it's a right of passage that should be fixed in their mindset, and is NOT a problem society in general has made.
Flame away, as I'm sure some of you bleeding hearts will somehow, some way find my statements either inhumane, racist, or some other Democratic, tolerant term for those who don't agree with them.
 
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Geez, no wonder history is no longer something to learn from or appreciate...

Now were you just trying to be a smartass or would you like to tell me where I'm wrong? If the latter, please be as specific as you can be.</p>
 

thatsbaseball

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if prison/detention was something to dread rather than a right of passage for a significant portion of our "society" it would be much more effective. With no parental guidance available to such a large number of young people thereneeds to be some deterenent to these young people becoming permanent social parasites and we shoulddo this bytrying toinject some sort of discipline and structureinto their lives.Memo to all you whiny little libs that come out of your holes to comment on issues like this, in the words of one of your most beloved idols..... It Takes a Village.
 

AFDawg

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you're simply wrong if you locate the root cause of recidivism in prison being easy. My point, sarcastically made, is that very few people who actually have experience in a prison (visiting or residing) will tell you it's easy. Some prisons maybe are (relatively speaking), but many or most are not. <div>
</div><div>The idea that prison is cushy is a product of pop culture rather than fact (as is the idea that it's a never ending wasteland of rape and violence). The truth is somewhere in between. A prisoner has almost no personal freedom (as it should be), though from television you'd think they were wandering around sipping mai tais. The incarcerated population itself makes prison life difficult. A large percentage of prisoners have mental illnesses and infectious diseases. That's unsurprising considering the folks that you're dealing with, but it's made worse by communal living. Depending on the location and the security level of the prison, prisoners may have privileges like television, radio, etc. But they are less easily available than you would think, especially in maximum security prisons, and are often used to keep prisoners complacent. As for educational facilities, those are often reserved for prisoners who follow the rules and are designed to preventrecidivism. </div><div><div>
</div><div>Now, here is where you're right:
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<div><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">For some, it's a right of passage that should be fixed in their mindset...</span></div><div></div>
</span></div><div>That very fact underscores how recidivism in the United States is a complex social issue. In many communities the economic opportunities and social structures that make criminal life less likely are broken, and people will commit crimes even after a prison sentence--even after a harsh prison sentence--simply because they don't know of another way of life. (Since you're in Nashville, are you more likely to go to prison if you grew up on Trinity Lane or Belle Meade Boulevard?) Recidivism is a cultural problem as much as it is a problem of the right incentives and deterrents<em style="font-style: normal; line-height: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">vis[/i]<span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); line-height: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">-à-</span><em style="font-style: normal; line-height: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">vis prison. Another illustration: the U.S. has a much higher prison population per capita than does Europe (where prison is often much easier than in the U.S.), but also much higher crime rates. More/tougher prisons by themselves don't necessarily reduce crime. There are a host of social forces in play. None of this, of course, takes away from the personal responsibility of any given criminal.[/i]</div><div><em style="font-style: normal; line-height: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">
[/i]</div><div><span style="line-height: 16px;">To make it sports related--how about prison rodeo?</span></div> </div> </div>
 

nemsdawg

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The way the article read these kids were already on probation. Maybe this has always been the way they handle kids who are on probation. I don't agree with the mace or the aesthetic looks of the facility but there have to be some way to handle breaking of their probation.
 
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How's the occupying going? You didn't type that message on a corporate-made product, did you?
Thanks for the message of tolerance and peace.