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It’s been about 4 or 5 years since I upgraded. I’ve got a Samsung 55’ LED currently. Looking to move it to the bedroom and upgrade to a 65’ for the living room with football season right around the corner (fingers crossed). Gotta admit I haven’t kept up with the ever changing flat screen TV technology. What’s some of the best options right now (UHD, OLED, QLED, etc.)? Budget for the new tv is 1000 - 1500. What say you, pack?
 
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Just google best 4K 65” tv’s & study the hell out of the reviews. You’ll learn a lot & be better satisfied when you make your choice. I moved my 48” Samsung to the patio 2 years ago & bought a 65” series 4 TCL Roku. It was rated the best under $1,000. Picture is awesome. No complaints here.
 
SwampDawg

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fishwater99 said:
75 inch Samsung. QLED
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Don't buy a Samsung if you value your privacy. You have to OK SmartHub if you want to access Netflix, Amazon, etc., and to do so you have to sign off and approve several pages of permissions authorizing "them" to listen to your conversations, sleep in your bed and so forth. I won't buy anything again that requires SmartHub. Yeah I know 99% of the population has my info already but still ...
 
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I'll second getting a cheaper TV and spend the rest on Sonos soundbar.
 
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At that price range that pretty much eliminates OLED. I would go the QLED route. Although people normally tie QLED and Samsung together, other brands sells QLED tv's. Just look for quantum dot technology. I have a 2 year old Sony that I'm very pleased with. With Sony just look for TRILUMINOS Display as that is their version of QLED. Below is basically what I have only an older version. But they make several models with Triluminos color.

​https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-6...rt-4k-uhd-tv-with-hdr/6331578.p?skuId=6331578
 
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tmjdog said:
Just google best 4K 65” tv’s & study the hell out of the reviews. You’ll learn a lot & be better satisfied when you make your choice. I moved my 48” Samsung to the patio 2 years ago & bought a 65” series 4 TCL Roku. It was rated the best under $1,000. Picture is awesome. No complaints here.
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I would echo this as it relates to the research (though would also agree that TCL is great for the money especially if you already use Roku).

Also, be sure to consider the brightness of your room. Some TVs are great, but do better with a darker room. Living rooms can often be bright, so if that's the case make sure you consider those that tend to have less glare. I love the Sony I have in my man cave, but not sure I would be as happy with it in the living room.
 
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My Samsung SmartTV is crap. I guess they just cheaped out on memory/processor, but switching between apps more often than not requires a power cycle. Occasionally, i have to actually unplug it from the wall for a few seconds. The only other alternative is reset the SmartHub which then requires you to login to all of your apps again. It SUX. It has no way to purposefully kill a running app to free up resources. Would not buy again.
 
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Whenever you decide on brand and size, I would definitely check out your local Sam's club before you buy from somewhere else. I bought a 75" Vizio from there a year or so ago, and saved about $300 on it versus a competitor.

I'm not a TV expert, and it's just not my thing to research and understand all the specifications. But, I've really enjoyed my Vizio. I know it's a 4K LED. That's about the extent of my knowledge. It's got a couple minor glitches, that I've noticed, when switching between Inputs, particularly when switching between their "SmartHome" app and the PS4 (HDMI Input). But, nothing that effects the quality of the TV or anything, just a little aggravating sometimes. But, the picture is incredible. I've really enjoyed it.

I would also agree with the other poster who said that if you can find a nice TV, that fits all your needs for $900-1,000 (and I think you very well could), then I would spend the rest of the budget on Sonos Soundbar or sound system. It's crazy the difference it makes.
 
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SwampDawg said:
Don't buy a Samsung if you value your privacy. You have to OK SmartHub if you want to access Netflix, Amazon, etc., and to do so you have to sign off and approve several pages of permissions authorizing "them" to listen to your conversations, sleep in your bed and so forth. I won't buy anything again that requires SmartHub. Yeah I know 99% of the population has my info already but still ...
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That is the case with anything connected to the internet, if you are worried then you might want to get off it right now.

I have 2 new QLED Samsungs and are every happy, no issues with the SmartHub either. The picture quality is great, especially in 4K.
The TCL has great features, but the picture quality is not there. Sony still makes some great TV's too.
My suggestion is to go to a BestBuy, SAMS or COSTCO where you can see them side by side and then you can see which has the best picture quality.
Don't go the cheap route as the amount of 4K viewing options will be increasing. Football in 4K is awesome.
 
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This thread pops up every few months.
Vizio is a crap shoot, some good, some bad. Stick with LG, Samsung, Sony. And buy a good surge protector.

All the older TV's with smart apps the smart apps sucked. Most of the newer are better, bigger processors and more memory.

I just got a Samsung UN75NU8000F which was a top rated that went on closeout/clearance last year. Makes a great picture and should be in your price range if you can find one left.
 
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Xenomorph said:
Do you or your kids use the tv for console gaming? The new XBox Series X and PS5 both claim to push 120 frames.

But you aren't doing that with a typical 60hz television. Gotta have 120hz and HDMI 2.1 for that. If I was upgrading I'd look at something like this:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-65-...SCLPCw8ArtZptw20njQaAvJIEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Pretending that I am Michael Scott, and you are Oscar explaining finances to me.. can you explain to me what this would mean for someone who purchased a PS5 and did not have a 120hz TV? (I'm actually not sure if my TV is or not.. it's a relatively new Vizio 4K, but have no idea about the hz) But, I would like to know if I should invest in a new TV prior to purchasing the PS5.
 
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My 65" TCL is fine for casual viewing. Only Home Theater fanatics would find it lacking. Built in Roku, which is generally considered the most user-friendly smart tv interface.

I will also second the Sonos recommendation. I have the new Arc on order but I've been using their Beam and Sub and surrounds. Pricey but worth it to bypass the clutter and complexity of full 5.1 systems with 95% of the sonic benefits of most.
 
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The future of console gaming is supposedly 120 frames per second. Current consoles are capped at 60 frames per second (some games don't even utilize that) and it's fine since most tv's in the home are 60hz. Hertz is how many times the screen blinks a new image every second.

60hz = max of 60 fps.

The next gen consoles coming out before Christmas boast 120 fps capability.. though if the PS5 can do that you'll be able to fry an egg on that hot little beyotch. And people are even dubious that the new Xbox will be able to.

But rest assured.. all the new AAA games are going to shoot for it.

I didn't think it was a big deal until my son used his summer camp money to build a new gaming PC. He can push 150+ fps in Forza Horizon 4 and nearly that in Doom Eternal.. all in 1440p. ....And it's absolutely beautiful.

In short.. if the new consoles really can push 120fps then it'll look incredible on a 120hz televsion. If they can't.... well...
 
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Xenomorph said:
The future of console gaming is supposedly 120 frames per second. Current consoles are capped at 60 frames per second (some games don't even utilize that) and it's fine since most tv's in the home are 60hz. Hertz is how many times the screen blinks a new image every second.

60hz = max of 60 fps.

The next gen consoles coming out before Christmas boast 120 fps capability.. though if the PS5 can do that you'll be able to fry an egg on that hot little beyotch. And people are even dubious that the new Xbox will be able to.

But rest assured.. all the new AAA games are going to shoot for it.

I didn't think it was a big deal until my son used his summer camp money to build a new gaming PC. He can push 150+ fps in Forza Horizon 4 and nearly that in Doom Eternal.. all in 1440p. ....And it's absolutely beautiful.

In short.. if the new consoles really can push 120fps then it'll look incredible on a 120hz televsion. If they can't.... well...
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Thank you! Are there 120 hz TVs currently available (at non-astronomical prices)?
 
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gasdawg said:
It’s been about 4 or 5 years since I upgraded. I’ve got a Samsung 55’ LED currently. Looking to move it to the bedroom and upgrade to a 65’ for the living room with football season right around the corner (fingers crossed). Gotta admit I haven’t kept up with the ever changing flat screen TV technology. What’s some of the best options right now (UHD, OLED, QLED, etc.)? Budget for the new tv is 1000 - 1500. What say you, pack?
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OLEDs have a great picture, but are highly subject to burn-in. I had a $2500 LG OLED 65" that had pretty severe burn-in after less than two years, and it's not covered by the manufacturer's warranty. I'd bought it at Best Buy and bought the exended warranty, so they replaced it. I'm not sure why they cost so much relative to most others upper end models.
 
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horshack said:
My Samsung SmartTV is crap. I guess they just cheaped out on memory/processor, but switching between apps more often than not requires a power cycle. Occasionally, i have to actually unplug it from the wall for a few seconds. The only other alternative is reset the SmartHub which then requires you to login to all of your apps again. It SUX. It has no way to purposefully kill a running app to free up resources. Would not buy again.
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I had a Samsung LED prior to my LG, and it was a piece of junk. The LEDs lit from the sides, after a couple of years there were 7 bright spots on each side, pointing toward the center, that totally ruined the picture. It was unfixable at a reasonable price.
 
Xenomorph

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Without doing a search, I doubt you can get a 55” 120hz tv for less than $400. And then it won’t be 4K which you really want now days for regular tv watching (not gaming unless you have a $3K gaming rig) probably $600 for anything decent.

Heck.. a 27”, 240hz, 1440p gaming monitor (the holy grail) starts at $500.
 
SwampDawg

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"if you are worried then you might want to get off it right now."

I covered that in my last sentence: Yeah I know 99% of the population has my info already but still ...

 
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Xenomorph said:
Without doing a search, I doubt you can get a 55” 120hz tv for less than $400. And then it won’t be 4K which you really want now days for regular tv watching (not gaming unless you have a $3K gaming rig) probably $600 for anything decent.

Heck.. a 27”, 240hz, 1440p gaming monitor (the holy grail) starts at $500.
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That’s not too bad, at all! I do greatly appreciate the information.
 
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Xenomorph said:
The future of console gaming is supposedly 120 frames per second. Current consoles are capped at 60 frames per second (some games don't even utilize that) and it's fine since most tv's in the home are 60hz. Hertz is how many times the screen blinks a new image every second.

60hz = max of 60 fps.

The next gen consoles coming out before Christmas boast 120 fps capability.. though if the PS5 can do that you'll be able to fry an egg on that hot little beyotch. And people are even dubious that the new Xbox will be able to.

But rest assured.. all the new AAA games are going to shoot for it.

I didn't think it was a big deal until my son used his summer camp money to build a new gaming PC. He can push 150+ fps in Forza Horizon 4 and nearly that in Doom Eternal.. all in 1440p. ....And it's absolutely beautiful.

In short.. if the new consoles really can push 120fps then it'll look incredible on a 120hz tits. elevsion. If they can't.... well...
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It's not just gaming. To me, most tv or movies look crappy in 60 hz. Movement looks choppy. Most people can't tell the difference though supposedly. IMO, there's no point buying a huge HD tv that will look crappy.
 
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tmjdog said:
Just google best 4K 65” tv’s & study the hell out of the reviews. You’ll learn a lot & be better satisfied when you make your choice. I moved my 48” Samsung to the patio 2 years ago & bought a 65” series 4 TCL Roku. It was rated the best under $1,000. Picture is awesome. No complaints here.
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I also have a TCL Roku TV in my living room. Zero complaints. Picture is awesome. Sound is pretty good. I wish they did have a matte version of the screen. I hate reflections in my TV screen.
 
Xenomorph

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What are you watching at higher than 60 fps right now? Cable tv, Directv, Netflix.. it’s all 60 fps. Most blu ray discs are only 24 fps.

The only thing out there right now that actually pushes more than 60 (regardless of your TV’s capability) is PC gaming.
 
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BoomBoom said:
It's not just gaming. To me, most tv or movies look crappy in 60 hz. Movement looks choppy. Most people can't tell the difference though supposedly. IMO, there's no point buying a huge HD tv that will look crappy.
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That's why I love my plasma tv.
 
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You getting some killer high frame rates out of that trusty plasma huh?
 
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To me, it’s hard to beat TCL for the price.
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I’m with you when it comes to the budget tv realm. I used to be a Vizio guy, and they are pretty solid out of the box, but I’ve eventually had issues with both of mine. The HDMI board crapped out on my first one, and it was about the same price to get a new TV as to fix it. Then, my newer Vizio has basically had interface issues the entire time I’ve had it. Random freezes, issues when trying to change inputs, screen occasionally goes haywire when playing PS4... it reminds me of back in the day when I was trying to play a brand new Duke Nukem game on a 8 year old PC.

Anyway, we randomly got a TCL for the bedroom because they were so dang cheap and they had good reviews, and we haven’t had the slightest problem. Not the biggest fan of the tiny remote, but the Roku interface is great, picture is solid, and it has a really handy little app to sync audio to your earbuds if you’re on a treadmill or don’t want kids hearing what you’re watching. I honestly don’t know how they sell these things so cheaply
 
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I’ll second the suggestion of rtings.com. You can also check out reddit 4ktv https://www.reddit.com/r/4kTV/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/HTBuyingGuides/
Lots of info re:Samsung Qled...it’s not all favorable.

I went cheap for a 55” and got a 6 Series TCL, and a very affordable Vizio soundbar with a sub, and it’s been great for the bedroom. Like the Roku interface. A sound source is a must with any of these thin TVs.
 
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Seinfeld said:
Anyway, we randomly got a TCL for the bedroom because they were so dang cheap and they had good reviews, and we haven’t had the slightest problem. Not the biggest fan of the tiny remote, but the Roku interface is great, picture is solid, and it has a really handy little app to sync audio to your earbuds if you’re on a treadmill or don’t want kids hearing what you’re watching. I honestly don’t know how they sell these things so cheaply
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can you point me to that app? I wasn’t aware you could do that.

TCL also has a calibration app for the picture, which is nice to have.
 
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Sure thing, so it’s actually the Roku app, but it works just fine with the TCL tv as long as it’s one of the ones with Roku integrated. Truth be told, the app is nearly worthless aside from the Bluetooth audio function that I mentioned, but I use that function all the time. Like I said, it’s great for watching tv while exercising, and it’s also handy for some of today’s FX or Netflix shows where the language isn’t so kid friendly
 
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