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bac2therac said:
dead at 100

he dated some hot tail

Kissinger dated actresses Jill St. John, Shirley MacLaine, Marlo Thomas, Candice Bergen and Liv Ullman.

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Dude had in going on and off the court. Such an influential person at a time influence was needed. RIP Mr Kissinger.
 
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“It was a grave mistake to let in so many people of totally different culture and religion and concepts, because it creates a pressure group inside each country that does that"

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Henry Kissinger on Hamas attacks fallout: Germany let in too many foreigners

As a minority in Berlin cheer Hamas’ attacks on Israel, former top US diplomat says mass immigration was a ‘grave mistake.’
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ATIOH said:
I did not have the Kissinger death thread turning into a hot chicks / old chicks thread on my Rivals Bingo Card.

Fingers crossed on someone mentioning a Honda Accord.
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Would have been a high paying parlay for sure
 
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On stiffs.com,7 people now have 6 hits for the year.
The person leading also named Jimmy Carter,so he has a chance for 7 by New Year's.
I never enter,BTW.
The contest works thusly:You pick 10 people with points in descending order.
The leader has Carter No.2,which would give him 9 points and likely first place.
 
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CERU00 said:
His (w/Nixon) rapprochement with communist China has led to great evil and will cause great harm to future generations across the globe. Not a good legacy.
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it would have happened regardless. Besides, now you have an Iphone that only costs $1,000 instead of $5,000
 
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speaking of Kissinger and actresses reminds me if this quote from Bette Davis. “You should never say bad things about the dead. Joan Crawford is dead? Good”
 
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DJ Spanky said:
Saw that while I was at the gym: he was quite possibly our greatest statesman.
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Certainly the most influential of the second half of the 20th century but American history goes back further than that. And can you call someone who ordered the carpet bombing of 2 neutral countries (Cambodia and Laos), killing 100’s of thousands great? We dropped more ordnance on those 2 countries than we did on Europe all through WW2. He famously said something like “if it moves, bomb it”. Not so great, in my opinion. There are other examples like this on a lesser scale where his indifference to humanity was horrendous. And many of these actions were done in support of what would be failed policies. Not so great. Hardly Ben Franklin getting the French to join us in the Revolution.
 
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his actions in Asia directly lead to the mess we have today with an enpowered Communist China and Xitler's new Nazi regime there, North Korea, and the way Russia is now.
 
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And this is not surprising:

"Then there’s supermarket mogul Ron Burkle, Clinton’s daughter Chelsea Clinton, former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger and John Kerry, late Saudiarms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, media titan Rupert Murdoch, and movie director Woody Allen, New York magazine notes in a new article detailing the contents of Epstein’s private phone book and private plane’s flight logs."


Very random, but creepy if true:

 
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ATIOH said:
I did not have the Kissinger death thread turning into a hot chicks / old chicks thread on my Rivals Bingo Card.

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I did. I have to say.. my first thought was.. but what did he really ever do? At the time, sure, seemed like he accomplished much... and yet...

-- Vietnam Peace talks = North Korea immediately invaded the South even before we left.. helicopters vacating the US Embassy in Saigon

-- Opening China = We should have left them twisting in the wind and powerless on the world stage

-- Middle East = look at it.. what has changed? I suppose Jared Kushner couldn't have pulled off what he did without what Kissinger did... but, again, what's changed?

BUT.. just this morning I concluded that he helped avoid WWIII and negotiated the fall of the USSR. While Russia is still a pain in the ***.. the USSR was a far bigger threat. And Kissinger was blasted by so many for his support for the Shah and for the USA to give him and his safe harbor... but that has proven to have been the right position.. and Carter's support for the Mullah's takeover.. basically preventing the Iranian military from overthrowing them.. that has led to so much terror.. even directly to October 7.
 
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AntiG said:
his actions in Asia directly lead to the mess we have today with an enpowered Communist China and Xitler's new Nazi regime there, North Korea, and the way Russia is now.
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Yes. I rarely quote the NYT, but this is a good read- the last two lines in bold/italics is spot on:



"From the side of the free world, Mr. Kissinger backed genocidal campaigns — by Pakistan against Bengalis and by Indonesia against the East Timorese. In Chile he has been accused of helping to lay the groundwork for a military coup that led to the death of Salvador Allende, the elected leftist president, while ushering in a terrible period of autocratic rule. The generous defense is that Mr. Kissinger represented an ethos that saw the ends (the defeat of the Soviet Union and revolutionary Communism) as justifying the means. But for huge swaths of the world, this mind-set carried a brutal message that America has often conveyed to its own marginalized populations: We care about democracy for us, not them. Shortly before Mr. Allende’s victory, Mr. Kissinger said, “The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves.” "

As imperfect as we are, the United States needs our story to survive. It’s what holds together a multiracial democracy at home and differentiates us from Russia and China abroad.

That story insists that a child in Laos is equal in dignity and worth to our children and that the people of Chile have the same right of self-determination as we do. For the United States, that must be a part of national security. We forget that at our peril.
 
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CERU00 said:
His (w/Nixon) rapprochement with communist China has led to great evil and will cause great harm to future generations across the globe. Not a good legacy.
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I actually blame Bush/Clinton for allowing China onto the world stage in economics and giving them most favored nation status. Huge mistake.
 
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Knight Shift said:
Murderous war criminal. Could post a lot more examples. Why are people like him lionized?




Henry Kissinger was famously quoted saying of the Marshall Islands, where the U.S. conducted nuclear testing from 1946 to 1958, “There are only 90,000 people out there. Who gives a damn?”)

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It's incredibly troubling that people don't remember or know about this. I learned about it in HS. If high schools are not teaching this...boy is that a problem. Makes me really appreciate my education.

While what Kissinger did in Chile and others as you have alluded to in other posts was awful, it was par for the course in the Cold War outside of perhaps the Carter era. What Kissinger did in Cambodia and Laos- secretly bombing civilians en masse, unbeknownst to the American people, was among the most downright evil things the American government has ever done. And Cambodia in particular has never recovered and suffered a massive genocide right after.
 
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Kissinger is going to get some hot tail alright.

I'm sure everything is hot in hell where war criminals land. I hope the souls of the innocent children he had slaughtered in Southeast Asia and the screams of innocent Chileans being tortured that he signed off on haunt him for eternity.
 
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DJ Spanky said:
I actually blame Bush/Clinton for allowing China onto the world stage in economics and giving them most favored nation status. Huge mistake.
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Nixon/Kissinger started it. Lots of blame to go around but those 2 actually gloated over their galactic failure.
 
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NotInRHouse said:
It's incredibly troubling that people don't remember or know about this. I learned about it in HS. If high schools are not teaching this...boy is that a problem. Makes me really appreciate my education.

While what Kissinger did in Chile and others as you have alluded to in other posts was awful, it was par for the course in the Cold War outside of perhaps the Carter era. What Kissinger did in Cambodia and Laos- secretly bombing civilians en masse, unbeknownst to the American people, was among the most downright evil things the American government has ever done. And Cambodia in particular has never recovered and suffered a massive genocide right after.
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It’s almost impossible to have not been exposed to that info. Forgetting it rests entirely on the person.
 
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I only Hitchens were around to write his obit. I guess the book he wrote ripping HK apart will have to do.

You can add Cyprus to the list of countries that despise him … and for good reason.
 
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ashokan said:
“It was a grave mistake to let in so many people of totally different culture and religion and concepts, because it creates a pressure group inside each country that does that"

www.politico.eu

Henry Kissinger on Hamas attacks fallout: Germany let in too many foreigners

As a minority in Berlin cheer Hamas’ attacks on Israel, former top US diplomat says mass immigration was a ‘grave mistake.’
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu
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Excellent book - Death of the West, Pat Buchanan. Explains it all
 
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