OT: Suggestions on buying a pistol.

rabiddawg

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It really is a beautiful gun and fits your hand perfectly. hickock45 on YouTube fired 100's of rounds through one in a test and it never jammed and he stated that it is impossible to miss with it. He is a Glock man to the death and he said this gun has really made him question his loyalty.

The trigger pull is so damn light and the trigger reset is so close that with some practise you can damn near approach full auto speed with it.
 
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Dawgbite

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Here is my two cents !

I want to buy a pistol but don't know much about them. I've shot different 9mm models, but nothing else. Any suggestions on a good shooting pistol?
As a concealed carry permit holder and a wife diagnosed gun nut ill give you my opinion. You want the largest gun you will routinely and comfortably carry, this eliminates most double stack magazine guns for most people. These guns are bulky and difficult to conceal unless you routinely wear a jacket and can use a shoulder holster. 17 rounds of 9mm is heavy compared to 7 rounds, do you need 17 rounds or the space to hold that many? I own many pistols and have shot many others and there are two that have surprised me with their accuracy and quality, a Les Baer 1911 and. Kahr K9. The Les Baer is a 2K custom shop gun with guaranteed accuracy that delivers on that promise, the Kahr is a 7 shot 9mm mid size DA about the size of a 3/4 scale glock. The NYPD uses the Kahr for its detectives and as backups for uniformed officers, about $750 new but I recently purchased an ex NYPD gun used for $450 as they have replaced them and all the used ones have hit the market. As a 1911 guy, my favorite carry gun is either the Para Carry 45 or the Para Carry 9, both are compact 1911 style pistols but wit a light DA trigger as I'm not really comfortable carrying cocked and locked on a standard 1911. The next step down is a Ruger LCP 380 for pocket carry in a wallet style pocket holster. Last and least is a North American arms 22 revolver loaded with Stingers for summer and shorts, it's no bigger than your keys. I know a 22 isn't adequate but it's better than nothing and very easy to carry.

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downwarddawg

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It really is a beautiful gun and fits your hand perfectly. hickock45 on YouTube fired 100's of rounds through one in a test and it never jammed and he stated that it is impossible to miss with it. He is a Glock man to the death and he said this gun has really made him question his loyalty.

The trigger pull is so damn light and the trigger reset is so close that with some practise you can damn near approach full auto speed with it.

What gun is it? The pic is not showing on my work computer. I love watching hickock45. I'm trying to decide between a Sig Sauer P250 sub-compact and a Glock 26. I hate the way the Glock's feel in my hand but you can't question the reliability and the accuracy.
 

rabiddawg

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It's the Walther PPQ. The one I pictured is the Naval version with the threaded barrel and silencer lug. Go to hickock45's first firing with the PPQ on YouTube. A bunch of people had been requesting him to do a firing test with it. He borrowed a guys PPQ for the test. He is as staunch a Glock shooter as there is and he was blown away by the PPQ. The angle of the grips on a Glock make you really have to work to not let it raise when firing. The PPQ's angle is perfect. I will add that this is not a gun for someone who doesn't intend to take it to the range and practice a lot because of the extremely light trigger pull. So a 9mm PPQ would be better because of cheaper ammo to practice. I have had plenty of practice shooting so that is why I have the 40 S&W version. The extra stopping power is there if you need it. The only drawback to the PPQ that I have found is the extra magazines are very expensive- $40-$60 bucks compared to $19 for a Glock 19 Gen4 that I also own. I will never buy another semi auto unless Walther somehow can perfect the PPQ-which won't be easy because it is the perfect gun.
 
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downwarddawg

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It's the Walther PPQ. The one I pictured is the Naval version with the threaded barrel and silencer lug. Go to hickock45's first firing with the PPQ on YouTube. A bunch of people had been requesting him to do a firing test with it. He borrowed a guys PPQ for the test. He is as staunch a Glock shooter as there is and he was blown away by the PPQ. The angle of the grips on a Glock make you really have to work to not let it raise when firing. The PPQ's angle is perfect. I will add that this is not a gun for someone who doesn't intend to take it to the range and practice a lot because of the extremely light trigger pull. So a 9mm PPQ would be better because of cheaper ammo to practice. I have had plenty of practice shooting so that is why I have the 40 S&W version. The extra stopping power is there if you need it. The only drawback to the PPQ that I have found is the extra magazines are very expensive- $40-$60 bucks compared to $19 for a Glock 19 Gen4 that I also own. I will never buy another semi auto unless Walther somehow can perfect the PPQ-which won't be easy because it is the perfect gun.


Thanks for the reply. Damn, just what I needed, another gun to consider. I really hate the way the Glock feels in my hands so I probably won't be going that route. I was leaning more towards the Sig. Is the PPQ a good CCW? I gotta put my hands on one of these now.
 

rabiddawg

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Yes. It is a good CCW for a double stacked magazine. If you use a hip holster with a button up shirt untucked it is completely undetectable. It is the same general size as a model 19 Gen4 so it fits nicely inside your waistband. It's a little more slim than the slide on a Glock but the slide is taller. Much better feel to it in your hand than 19

The problem is you just can't find them here in Mississippi to pick up and hold onto. If you want a road trip you could try calling around to all the Walther authorized dealers listed on there website. Most have them on back order with a waiting list.
 
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AlSwearengen

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are you sure about the angle of the glock's grip? The angle of the grip actually HELPS to keep the muzzle rise to a minimum. I have read some where that gaston glock used the funny grip angle for this purpose. This could be bs and he just happened upon it, but most people consider the grip angle of the glock to be beneficial to managing muzzle rise.
 

rabiddawg

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My point was most people who have shot non Glocks have to get used to it. My normal hand position on any other gun had me hitting high with a Glock. It was unusual to me. The PPQ seems to fall right in line with the natural position of my wrist. If all you have ever shot was Glocks or 1911's then this would be perfectly normal.
 

downwarddawg

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Yes. It is a good CCW for a double stacked magazine. If you use a hip holster with a button up shirt untucked it is completely undetectable. It is the same general size as a model 19 Gen4 so it fits nicely inside your waistband. It's a little more slim than the slide on a Glock but the slide is taller. Much better feel to it in your hand than 19

The problem is you just can't find them here in Mississippi to pick up and hold onto. If you want a road trip you could try calling around to all the Walther authorized dealers listed on there website. Most have them on back order with a waiting list.

Thanks. I really want to hold one before I decide. I'll look around but I may ride all this "panic buying" out. I heard from a gun dealer last week that said it was starting to calm down a little bit. I bought an AK-47 at Christmas and that was hell to find.