OT: Texas Locker Room

RUfromSoCal?

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wow... video screens over the lockers....

.....I guess that makes it easier for them to kick you off the team when they need your scholarship for some 5-star recruit with a 1.034 GPA....
 

babbs09

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Yea all 85+ of those flat screens all flashing bright lights all the time. Will certainly separate the men from the epileptics.
 
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Finster Baby

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Not only ridiculous, but their team will be blind by mid-season, haha. Hope none of their kids have epileptic seizures.
 

AreYouNUTS

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I don't know if there's a team in the nation that consistently flops as much with top 10 talent as Texas does. Now when I say "flops" I mean both "flops" AND "flops relative to the talent on the roster." Recruited talent. Then take into account how GREAT of a football state Texas is and, well, it's nice to have pretty things and all but....just sayin'.
 
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PSU_Nut_rivals17625

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That is just rediculous. It getting harder and harder to defend the kids shouldn't be paid. If schools can afford this crap then it time to just start paying players. At some point some needs to be an adult and say enough is enough.
 

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That is just rediculous. It getting harder and harder to defend the kids shouldn't be paid. If schools can afford this crap then it time to just start paying players. At some point some needs to be an adult and say enough is enough.

For someone who acts like a college football know it all, I would think you would know it's virtually impossible to pay college football players...unless you cut every women's sport.
 
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sct1111

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When college football facilities are flashier and fancier then pro facilities, then there is a problem.
 
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Jim_from_RU

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At least the residents of Texas don't b*tch and moan that UT donors spend on this stuff. The way NJ residents and the media try nickel and dime us at every turn, Rutgers should be so lucky.
 
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PSU_Nut_rivals17625

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For someone who acts like a college football know it all, I would think you would know it's virtually impossible to pay college football players...unless you cut every women's sport.
That excuse is getting hard to believe when you have schools who have the money to do things like this. That is my whole point. For years schools have claimed exactly what you are saying. However when they build facilities with things like this, miniature golf courses, sliding boards, laser tag, barbershops, etc the we can't afford it excuse get hard to believe. When you hear about coordinators making a million plus you have to question the excuses these athletic directors throw out. In 2014 the B1G spent an average of $272,982 per football player while the SEC spent an average $301,878 per player. They spent $146,450 per athlete in all sports in the B1G and $187,451 in the SEC. How can you tell me with a straight face that there is not an enough wasteful spending (miniature golf courses, tvs in every locker etc) that the only way to pay players is to cut women's sports? I have always been against paying the players but it getting harder and harder to defend that when I see things like Texas is doing.
 

Scarlet_Scourge

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PSU_Nut.. you honestly think that the school paid any money for this? REALLY? This was all paid for by private donations aka Rich people outside of the school who paid for this in full.
 
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PSU_Nut_rivals17625

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PSU_Nut.. you honestly think that the school paid any money for this? REALLY? This was all paid for by private donations aka Rich people outside of the school who paid for this in full.
I know it is paid for by donations. However those donations could be used for other things if the school asked for it. And just because someone willing to pay for it doesn't mean it the right thing to do. It is a very slippery slope the NCAA and schools are going down. How do you justify the tax right off for donations when they are going to things as rediculous as this?

I have no problem with nice facilities. I think what Rutgers is building is perfect. It is not over the top and it is functional. Laser tag, miniature golf 43' tv in every locker is just rediculous.
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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That is just rediculous. It getting harder and harder to defend the kids shouldn't be paid. If schools can afford this crap then it time to just start paying players. At some point some needs to be an adult and say enough is enough.
Good luck finding common sense, let alone an adult, when it comes to that topic.
 

IMARUFAN

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Even though this is the Texas locker room, I'm betting New Jersey tax payers are angry about it.
 

Scarlet Haze

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I don't know if there's a team in the nation that consistently flops as much with top 10 talent as Texas does. Now when I say "flops" I mean both "flops" AND "flops relative to the talent on the roster." Recruited talent. Then take into account how GREAT of a football state Texas is and, well, it's nice to have pretty things and all but....just sayin'.
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Don't forget Notre Dame............they can flop with talent with the best of them no matter hard NBC tries to get them ranked higher than they deserve
 
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AreYouNUTS

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Don't forget Notre Dame............they can flop with talent with the best of them no matter hard NBC tries to get them ranked higher than they deserve

True other than the fact that with Texas it's almost ALL homegrown talent.
 

Pils86

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If the NCAA was a legitimate organization they would put financial limits on total spending for every sport, both school funds and donated, just like they have limits for the number of coaches. I thought Oregon's hot tub for the coaches to watch film was the height of lunacy. The college athletics arms race is ridiculous.
 
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theRU

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this is the kind of stuff that i think helps recruiting. In the past i asked @bobby deren what facility improvements we're behind on that hurt us in recruiting the most and he felt that facilities weren't holding us back so much. I personally don't agree. You show kids these kinds of "shiny toys" and it helps. Yes you need a good staff, but when your program doesn't have history of winning, a good staff and shiny toys will out recruit a good staff somewhere else.
 

RUGT

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That excuse is getting hard to believe when you have schools who have the money to do things like this. That is my whole point. For years schools have claimed exactly what you are saying. However when they build facilities with things like this, miniature golf courses, sliding boards, laser tag, barbershops, etc the we can't afford it excuse get hard to believe. When you hear about coordinators making a million plus you have to question the excuses these athletic directors throw out. In 2014 the B1G spent an average of $272,982 per football player while the SEC spent an average $301,878 per player. They spent $146,450 per athlete in all sports in the B1G and $187,451 in the SEC. How can you tell me with a straight face that there is not an enough wasteful spending (miniature golf courses, tvs in every locker etc) that the only way to pay players is to cut women's sports? I have always been against paying the players but it getting harder and harder to defend that when I see things like Texas is doing.

Not really. It's extremely disingenuous to use Texas, which has been the most profitable AD across all of the NCAA (despite not being great recently) as an example of why athletes should be paid. They, along with maybe ~10 other programs, make enough money in basketball / football to fully fund every every other olympic sport. The other 50 P5 programs and 60 G5 programs don't. And considering football / basketball are the only things schools make money on, letting schools pay players will just lead to these poorer schools cut every other mens sport and enough womens sport to satisfy Title IX requirements, since that will be what is required to stay competitive in the money making sports.
 
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sct1111

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It's getting to the point that when or if these players from these schools make the NFL, they will be disappointed with the facilities.
 

Ataylor1989x

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When college football facilities are flashier and fancier then pro facilities, then there is a problem.

I agree, but that's just a manifestation of the money that they will never be paid going back into investing in them. It's really quite the arms race, if only because it can't all go to coaches.
 

Rufaninga

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Couldn't get the curved screens? How you supposed to see the screen next to yours? 43" inch screens are so 2007. 43", I thought everything was supposed to be big in Texas....
 

RU-Choppin-Ohio

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110 lockers x 400 for each 43 inch TV = $43,000 for the hardware.

It's REALLY stupid but not outrageously expensive.
 

gunboat

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It's all about detail and that is probably why Texass has been down for awhile. Before they installed the new lockers they should have painted that nasty wall behind it!
 

Big East Beast

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Presumably, there is someone who has to make videos for every player; this is cool when it's a WR or RB, but I'd love to see what they come up with for the OLs or punters. My guess is, pretty lame videos - not even getting to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th stringers....
 

Scarlet Haze

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Iowa, in a nice touch for the visiting team, painted the visitors locker room pink.

Kinnick Stadium is well known for its pink visitors' locker rooms, a tradition started by emeritus Iowa coach Hayden Fry. Believing that pink would put opponents in a "passive mood", and because he thought that some believed pink was a "sissy color", Fry had the visiting locker rooms decorated completely in the color pink.

"One thing we didn't paint black and gold was the stadium's visitors locker room, which we painted pink. It's a passive color, and we hoped it would put our opponents in a passive mood. Also, pink is often found in girls' bedrooms, and because of that some consider it a sissy color."
The pink locker room tradition has been continued with the newly renovated locker rooms, which include everything from pink urinals to pink lockers. Controversy flared during the 2005 season when a visiting law professor, along with other university faculty and students protested the pink coloration as demeaning to women and homosexuals. Despite these protests and with lots of student support, however, the locker room remains pink.
 

JoeRU0304

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I know it is paid for by donations. However those donations could be used for other things if the school asked for it. And just because someone willing to pay for it doesn't mean it the right thing to do. It is a very slippery slope the NCAA and schools are going down. How do you justify the tax right off for donations when they are going to things as rediculous as this?

I have no problem with nice facilities. I think what Rutgers is building is perfect. It is not over the top and it is functional. Laser tag, miniature golf 43' tv in every locker is just rediculous.

...reminds me of an article Jerry Izenberg wrote sometime in the 90's about the direction NFL stadiums were going in with 6 million luxury boxes, suites, etc. He said something along the lines of 'pretty soon they'll just build Ritz-Carltons with a football field in the middle.' Considering we're now in an age where franchises look to replaced 'old' 15-20 year-old stadiums, I don't think he was that far off.


Joe P.
 

miketd1

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Helps recruiting. Helps keep players inside the facility (and out of trouble..?). Allows them to review game film, scouting reports, practice coaching points, etc.

I see little downside other than I would have simply gone with iPad minis or Surface tablets for ease of upgrading and increased portability.
 

Big East Beast

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Helps recruiting. Helps keep players inside the facility (and out of trouble..?). Allows them to review game film, scouting reports, practice coaching points, etc.

I see little downside other than I would have simply gone with iPad minis or Surface tablets for ease of upgrading and increased portability.

I'm not following- are you saying they will be reviewing game film sitting in front of their locker?
 

huskersalways

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Helps recruiting. Helps keep players inside the facility (and out of trouble..?). Allows them to review game film, scouting reports, practice coaching points, etc.

I see little downside other than I would have simply gone with iPad minis or Surface tablets for ease of upgrading and increased portability.


Nebraska put iPads in their locker doors the last time they redid the lockerooms. It's proven to be a pretty handy tool for the players and coaches. They have now put them on the door of every sports locker. They can watch tape, the coaches can message just that player or the position groups. They get their game plans through them and all sorts of stuff. What started out as an "extra" is very handy.
 
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