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johnson86-1

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Restricting supply basically doesn't happen,
You 17ing moron. Aside from the specific examples I provided on restricting supply, Mississippi just had a bill loosening restrictions on supply last year that failed that the Mississippi State Medical Association helped kill.

and in the very few places where it does it's not even CLOSE to being the main reason healthcare is expensive. Walk through a dang hospital and look around. If you are old enough think back to what it looked like 40-50 years ago. Then go take a look at the insurance and government bureaucracy that is also being supported by those at the point. Compare THAT to 40-50 years ago. Those are the real biggies, but there are many other things ahead of your fantasy.
Ignoring the fact that you are "refuting" a claim that nobody made, a lot of the ridiculous insurance and government bureaucracy is driven by the fools errand of trying to control cost while growth in supply is severely limited but demand is not.
 
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That's how my wife and I were on semaglutide (Ozempic). We switched to tirzepatide (Zepbound/Mounjaro) and did not have the nausea at all. We've both dropped about 40 lbs. I got on TRT too and started lifting weights. I feel like I'm in my 20's again, no lie.
TRT is a miracle. Been on it three years. Hair loss sucks, but I've been going bald since my oldest son was born. Wish I'd been religious about minoxidil back then. Hanging on to what I've got.
 
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It would be nice if they’d make many other peptides legal to sell. I’d buy BPC157 stacked with TB500 today if I could get it from a reputable company or from a local compounder. It’s illegal for sale in the US. So, I don’t know exactly what the places selling it online or in stores have in the bottle. I even saw a bottle of it in a local pharmacy recently, but still can’t get around the label saying “not for human use.”
Is BPC 157 illegal? We've been buying it for years. Worked great the last time I had frozen shoulder and a slight labrum tear. Probably healed 5x faster.
 

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You 17ing moron. Aside from the specific examples I provided on restricting supply, Mississippi just had a bill loosening restrictions on supply last year that failed that the Mississippi State Medical Association helped kill.


Ignoring the fact that you are "refuting" a claim that nobody made, a lot of the ridiculous insurance and government bureaucracy is driven by the fools errand of trying to control cost while growth in supply is severely limited but demand is not.
You don't understand what you are posting about obviously. You can win.
 

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Is BPC 157 illegal? We've been buying it for years. Worked great the last time I had frozen shoulder and a slight labrum tear. Probably healed 5x faster.
It is illegal in the sense that you can’t sell it for human use. But humans can buy it and then decide what to do with it. This has caused reputable places to forego making it and selling it.
 
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It's not "ok", but I'm not going to get my panties in a wad about the HHS continuing to be bad after the prior administration just set fire to their credibility and public trust. I mean, that's awful and if we have another pandemic it's going to be way worse than it should because public trust in public health related institutions is a huge asset that we shredded for no good reason, but even if we cleaned house and somehow made our public health institutions trustworthy, that alone won't restore trust. It's going to take time regardless. Maybe we'll start treating it seriously in the future and in another 10 to 15 years after that, we'll have trustworthy institutions that are also trusted.

But it is worth noting that somewhere well north of 90% of the people complaining about Kennedy don't actually care about HHS either, because if they did they would have been losing their mind over Leavitt and the incompetence HHS and the organizations under its umbrella during COVID, and hell, FDA and CDC have been awful for years before that too.
"It's not ok that's it's bad," followed by two paragraphs of why it's ok that it's bad.
 
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"It's not ok that's it's bad," followed by two paragraphs of why it's ok that it's bad.
What is the alternative? You ready to storm and sack the HHS primary offices? Start an armed rebellion? I don't think anybody is every 100% logically consistent, but I try not to be crazy, and the people getting worked up over HHS now, seem to be on the path to crazy town. When HHS was worse, I complained, but that was something that was firmly outside of my control. Now that HHS is not as bad I complain less. It's still out of my control, there's been a sideways movement or maybe slight improvement depending on how you net everything. Taking that and deciding to get more upset than you were before just because it's still bad, but not as bad, seems like going on the road to dying your hair purple and starting to wail in the street about politics.
 
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