Anyone got this issue. Cant' eat red meat. More warm weather brings more problems north. Growing up there were no ticks on Long Island now they are everywhere.
OT: Tick Bite from Lonestar Tick link to warming climate
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Lyme disease was discovered over 60 years ago from tick bites in Lyme, Connecticut. North of LI and NJ. Ticks have been here for ever. A new tick shows up and as usual, the media jumps to the climate change to create fear and more clicks.
Bullsht...lyme disease was all over Connecticut and LI and NJ for years
Another lazy propaganda piece blaming climate change
Sshhhh, you aren't supposed to use facts. We are talking about da sCieNce!
Maybe they can give it an ominous name like, "atmospheric river" to scare the uninformed.
IDK why, and I HIGHLY doubt it has anything to do with climate change, but I have been riding my mountain bike in the woods of Monmouth County regularly since 2014 without a tick bit for close to 10 years. Last year, I came home with ticks regularly, and I got my first tick bite-it was a lone star tick. Got to the doctor and got a mega dose of doxycycline, and all is well. Last weekend, found a baby tick after a ride. Time to go back to tucking the pants in socks and spraying shoes and socks with the tick killing spray.
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I spend a lot of time in the woods with my dog. We get ticks on both of us almost every trip. It's rare when we don't have them.
The issue to me is that there is not enough predators to eat the ticks so they are booming. Ducks, chickens, wild turkeys, woodpeckers all eat ticks but there aren't many of them out there. I go to one spot that has huge open fields for the dog to run around and there are hardly any birds of any kind.
Well there's been a huge decrease in birds over the past decade or two, mostly due to the overpopulation of deer stripping the brush and undercover that a lot of them nest in.
The robins all must have moved to my neighborhood. The winged rodent of Monmouth County.
The annoying thing about the mountain biking and getting ticks is I rarely, if ever, stop and put my feet on the ground. I do ride through some tall grass areas, and that has to be where they are ambushing me. I working on flamethrower pedals, but if I catch the grass or woods on fire, that could be a problem.
The amount of deer I see is insane.
That is definitely an issue, but I think the damage being done to the environment by synthetic chemicals is a much bigger issue. The biodiversity loss is obvious to the naked eye.
Well it appears this falls in line with the push for a meatless USA and society going forward. Lyme disease has been an issue in these here parts for years. Another BS disease scare… like the the uptick in brain abscesses in children. Fear mongering at its finest.
When planning to hike, I treat my wearables with permethrin. Lasts about six weeks or six washings. Clothing (except underwear), shoes, pack, and inner tent body all get treated. Kills ticks on contact. Safe for humans to handle/wear once any sprayed surface dries.
Picaridin can be applied directly to skin for extra precaution. It's safer than DEET and just as effective in repelling ticks (and skeeters).
Picaridin can be applied directly to skin for extra precaution. It's safer than DEET and just as effective in repelling ticks (and skeeters).
Except that this is not lyme disease - Perhaps it is you spreading lazy propaganda since you didnt even take the time to read up. The lone star tick does not carry lyme. This is STARI or Alpha-gal Syndrome. Sounds pretty depressing if you get it.
https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/alpha-gal/resources/alpha-gal-syndrome-factsheet.html#:~:text=Alpha-gal syndrome (AGS),can have life-changing effects.
https://www.cdc.gov/stari/symptoms/index.html
Actually it is more similar than you think. It may not be Lyme as we have known it but this is transmitted by what else? A damn tick….Except that this is not lyme disease - Perhaps it is you spreading lazy propaganda since you didnt even take the time to read up. The lone star tick does not carry lyme. This is STARI or Alpha-gal Syndrome. Sounds pretty depressing if you get it.
https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/alpha-gal/resources/alpha-gal-syndrome-factsheet.html#:~:text=Alpha-gal syndrome (AGS),can have life-changing effects.
https://www.cdc.gov/stari/symptoms/index.html
Have we checked the upsurge in brain abscesses are perhaps related to vaccination for covid 19 in children? How many here have been fully vaxed or are up to date with vaccinations? Got my newest booster last week on my 6 month work up. This is recommended for the over 65 age group. Only 10 % of US population have gotten this 2nd booster or is it 3rd?
You can certainly think that but they are 2 completely different infectious diseases. The tick is just a form of transmission. AGS currently has no cure and the disease can subject someone to severe allergic reactions to eating anything with Alpha-gal (generally Red Meat & Dairy).
Sometimes it's OK not to post every half-witted brain shart that oozes out of your head.
“Politics” aside, any form of Lyme sucks and “propaganda” pieces like these are a good reminder to take precautions as we all get out and enjoy the good weather.
Doing that right now, but so far, two very long hikes. Weather is spectacular here. Do they have ticks in the desert?
Maybe or maybe not. The desert can produce some weird respiratory spore stuff, but thankfully ID specialists out there are pretty well versed and know what to do.
We had a local guy die of Powassan virus a few years back
Ticks carry a lot of malware these days
People have to be diligent because ticks anesthetize when they bite so there is no feeling.
The infection can also lay subclinical for a long time
You could hike tomorrow and get bit and not feel anything.
Half the people never have a rash
The disease could show several years later.
By that time its gotten around and could be in gland tissue where these is less oxygen (and the glands go bonkers).
Its also cloaks itself is immune system, biofilms and such.
I spent years dealing with Lyme and people don' t know how bad it can get - its not just a rash and aches ( was told I could have lost vision if I went a few more weeks without antibiotics).
I tell people to avoid tick areas because its not possible to be 100% aware.
A small tick in middle of back can be missed easy
Lack of symptoms can be false security.
A kid getting this can be a hard case because they dont have health history, and people will assume "hormones" are making kid irritable and wayward
Watch for things like rabbits - they carry lots of ticks and can be worse than deer because they are small and go into bushes where deer wont.
A kid going after a ball in a bush can get dosed easy
With China making a reported "90%" of antibiotics a number of scenarios could make situations worse.
Oh and be careful at beaches because ticks , rabbits etc are in the bushes there.
I went to get a Frisbee in beach bushes at Nantucket and came out with a few dozen ticks stuck to me.
I didn't get them all off
Ticks carry a lot of malware these days
People have to be diligent because ticks anesthetize when they bite so there is no feeling.
The infection can also lay subclinical for a long time
You could hike tomorrow and get bit and not feel anything.
Half the people never have a rash
The disease could show several years later.
By that time its gotten around and could be in gland tissue where these is less oxygen (and the glands go bonkers).
Its also cloaks itself is immune system, biofilms and such.
I spent years dealing with Lyme and people don' t know how bad it can get - its not just a rash and aches ( was told I could have lost vision if I went a few more weeks without antibiotics).
I tell people to avoid tick areas because its not possible to be 100% aware.
A small tick in middle of back can be missed easy
Lack of symptoms can be false security.
A kid getting this can be a hard case because they dont have health history, and people will assume "hormones" are making kid irritable and wayward
Watch for things like rabbits - they carry lots of ticks and can be worse than deer because they are small and go into bushes where deer wont.
A kid going after a ball in a bush can get dosed easy
With China making a reported "90%" of antibiotics a number of scenarios could make situations worse.
Oh and be careful at beaches because ticks , rabbits etc are in the bushes there.
I went to get a Frisbee in beach bushes at Nantucket and came out with a few dozen ticks stuck to me.
I didn't get them all off
Was surprised to learn there are, but don't really plan around them like in NJ. If I get deep in the weeds (literally), I'll do a check, but it's not the kind of constant it is in those eastern hardwoods.
Gonna need some ride recs. Planning a Sedona trip and want to get into more of the good trails there.
Best advice is live in the inner city. Only have to worry about rats, cockroaches, knives and the occasional gun attacks.
Your behind schedule. At this point you should have at least 5 boosters
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Even worse are the invasive plants. Around here the entire understood of huge sections of forest are filled with non native species that suffocate everything else. Plus, the deer don't like them and the pollinators don't go for them. They affect the entire ecosystem. Yet, we continue to sell and release these into our environment without a thought.
Think i only i had 2 ticks all year last year and do alot of work along wooded areas. Least ever
Got a bunch on my at Royce Brook once. Wasnt ready to part with a 1 swing ball. Fing Pro V1 I saw it in the long fescue and went & got it. Same thing dozens of tick luckily had pants on. Swatted them all off fast. Before I went & got the ball you could actually see them on the weeds and just said *** it..Ran, jumped hopped to no avail picked up more than my ball
One of my best friends, who now lives in TN, came down with the tick-borne alpha-gal syndrome 10 years ago, well before most docs knew it was a thing, so he suffered with it for a few years before he was finally diagnosed. He can't eat anything from a mammal pretty much, as there are no treatments - some get bad cases, while others don't and it's not clear why. Sucks.
Nah… this was only because my wife who has an issue accepted the doctors advice. After being with someone 55 years and happily married you do what is necessary. Some will understand this… others will mock this … still others will never experience true devotion to another.
Excellent article on the lonestar tick's range being a function of both land/forest management and climate change, including several quotes from Rutgers entomologists, who just published a paper on this. The point is the return of lonestar ticks to the NE US is not just due to climate change - but climate change is exacerbating the northward progression.
https://entomologytoday.org/2022/03/01/lone-star-tick-land-management-deer-climate-change/
https://entomologytoday.org/2022/03/01/lone-star-tick-land-management-deer-climate-change/
Agreed. Lyme Disease is fairly trivial, as long as one gets treated for it within a few weeks of infection (the vast majority of cases have obvious symptoms/markings at the bite location), but the potential for the alpha-gal syndrome/meat allergy and associated impacts, without any known treatments to date is serious stuff (especially if one loves meat as much as I do). And it just seems so random as to who has the allergic response and how long it lasts. My friend still has the meat allergy after almost 10 years, while some simply get better.