Are you mad that one political party was running twatter and loads of alphabet agencies was brought to light?
Would you like to go back to a time when you could just say it was a conspiracy theory?
You seem upset.
OT: Twitter in Absolute Shambles
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Would you like to go back to a time when you could just say it was a conspiracy theory?
You seem upset.
Now that is one theory ya got there.
As Jordan put it: "Republicans buy sneakers, too".
I think political parties is less of an issue for Tesla more than an overreliance on the power of oil companies in these largely conservative states that prevent electric vehicle companies like Tesla from being able to penetrate the market.
Conspiracy theorist!
(Of course he bought it to make money but I think the investment will turn out different than your prediction. I think he's trying to stabilize society so there is a capitalist market left where he can actually sell things)
I currently have to read the WSJ, Fox business, and CNBC to try and get my news. I’ve found the financially skewed news sources to be the least biased because if they report BS people lose money and they’ll lose subscribers. Even with these it’s still difficult to get a nonbiased POV and the full story. It’s a very sad state with our current news.
If Twitter aims to be a nonbiased news source it has to purge and expose the current extreme liberal stance it has to get conservatives to join. There are already tens of millions of liberal users. If it gets millions of conservative people to join it can then attract conservative and moderate news sources. It can even start marking “liberal viewpoint/conservative viewpoint”. Could you imagine reading an article and at the top you can click a tab that says “now click here for liberal or conservative viewpoint” and you can get the full story at one place? Would be amazing and would make Twitter the only news source you would need. Would make it worth trillions.
Probably won’t work but at least someone is trying, because right now “news” is broken, which is a very bad thing for all of us.
If Twitter aims to be a nonbiased news source it has to purge and expose the current extreme liberal stance it has to get conservatives to join. There are already tens of millions of liberal users. If it gets millions of conservative people to join it can then attract conservative and moderate news sources. It can even start marking “liberal viewpoint/conservative viewpoint”. Could you imagine reading an article and at the top you can click a tab that says “now click here for liberal or conservative viewpoint” and you can get the full story at one place? Would be amazing and would make Twitter the only news source you would need. Would make it worth trillions.
Probably won’t work but at least someone is trying, because right now “news” is broken, which is a very bad thing for all of us.
A lot to unpack there. No doubt some truth in that. Elon saying he was done with the Democratic Party prior to buying Twitter was also most likely a calculated business move as well. So what?
So basically what you are saying is that Elon figured out that going woke means going broke. Exposing woke shadiness, on the other hand, is a smart business move. Great. Hopefully it winds up being a very profitable move, every business owner in America follows his lead and wokeness will die a quick but excruciatingly painful death. One can only hope.
Also...Elon moving Tesla facilities out of Cali and into Texas was for the very same reason Toyota HQ and many, many other big companies (and individuals for that matter) have left Cali in recent years...it’s the single worst state for a company to operate a business. High regulations, high taxes, high cost of living, high crime rates, low prosecution rates for said crimes, etc...
Check out these numbers from the Hoover Institute:
The Hoover Institute put out the raw numbers of just how many large companies have moved their headquarters in their report, and the numbers were higher than many people expected. In 2018, only 46 had left. In 2020, 75 had left. And in 2021, a whopping 153 companies left California
Until Cali changes it’s policies there will be no end in sight.
I’ll just end with this...Follow the money. That’s an outstanding idea. What was keeping Twitter afloat before Elon bought it? It will be interesting if that winds up being revealed at some point. Follow the money indeed.
LOL! I like that. I think he woke up one day and realized that you can't be a nation automobile company if half you sales are in just one state. I mean I live in a state where there are no Tesla stores anywhere, but they do plan to put one in Knoxville.
I agree the move to Texas was financially driven for sure, but I think the notion of building cars in a red state as part of an overall strategy to appeal more to, and penetrate the conservative or at least more main stream buying market was at least a minor factor.
Spending $44 billion on Twitter to sell more Teslas by spending years subtlety influencing public opinion, rather than cutting the price of the cars to get market adoption, and spending a fraction to lobby state legislatures to allow for direct sales from Tesla to consumers without using pain in the *** end arounds, is business planning I’d expect from wildcatboston1984.
If only that stock was performing poorly in a vacuum, he'd have a point. All tech stocks are down 20-60% YTD. Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Facebook, Salesforce, etc.
It is a sector issue much more than a Tesla issue.
Saying that Elon is fighting against woke ideology as a calculated business plan to gain traction with conservatives in the marketplace is something I'd expect from a liberal trying to save face from the embarrassment of their party fully embracing this destructive ideology as they see it's possible death on the horizon.
The simpler explanation, imo, is that Elon is sincere in saying that "the woke mind disease" is a civilization destroyer AND not conducive to long term business success. Elon is not a common money grubbing billionaire. His companies and projects all focus on a vision for the future that arguably benefit mankind (humankind?, peoplekind?).
The death of woke is the primary goal, but the details of how it gained power and who pushed this horrid ideology on society must be fully written into the record to help future generations avoid falling for this destructive nonsense.
It follows that democrats will need to own this **** and suffer accordingly.
The simpler explanation, imo, is that Elon is sincere in saying that "the woke mind disease" is a civilization destroyer AND not conducive to long term business success. Elon is not a common money grubbing billionaire. His companies and projects all focus on a vision for the future that arguably benefit mankind (humankind?, peoplekind?).
The death of woke is the primary goal, but the details of how it gained power and who pushed this horrid ideology on society must be fully written into the record to help future generations avoid falling for this destructive nonsense.
It follows that democrats will need to own this **** and suffer accordingly.
lol Elon is no longer the richest man in the world. What a stupid **** business man. Maybe he should spend some of his $160 billion on an MBA and learn how to make money.
Right. It's sad that one has to read numerous sources to synthesize the actual facts of what happened.
I don't think the financial writers were immune. Iirc they were all in on esg investing when it should be what would make money.
Finally I don't think you have to eradicate anything necessarily. Just stop artificially tilting the scale. That lets organic conversation ("good" and "bad") take place and provides a clearer picture of the current state of society and trends
Yeah - these twitter files paint him out to be a beta cuck who was more worried about pleasing his team than being a strong leade and making hard decisions.
By the way, record traffic, more members than ever, better bot control, allowing free speech - definitely shambles OP.
Stay in your lane, Rupaul. If you're on there you'll see the modern day liberals losing their ish like never before. Now that they dont have their facist army to police all opinion.
Not sure why your type hates free speech and loves to call everyone Hitler but you do you!
The irony is this thread was started by a liberal offended about the state of Twitter. The republicans in this thread actually seem happy with the state of the site while the liberals severely offended by Musk haven’t posted in days.
Musk is about to run the mainstream media out of business.
This very well may wind up being a true statement. But Elon will have to run through a pretty rough gauntlet to do so.
The government is already starting investigations into his companies & there will be many more to come...there will be constant harassment & audits by the IRS...they will probably even try to pass new legislation to shut down SpaceX or at least limit what it can do moving forward...there will be politicians publicly saying that he is a threat to democracy, racist, misogynistic, etc...there will be calls to boycott Tesla...there will be coordinated protests at his businesses and even his home...the MSM will continue to demonize him...there will be women who come forward with accusations of sexual assaults...there will be death threats...on and on...
Not saying it won’t happen. But Elon will pay a heavy price to even attempt it.
I’ve been a Republican my entire adult life — 41 years since I first voted. You are on a level of stupid (and brainwashed) that’s unfortunately very common in today’s world.
“Been Republican all my life” is the full confession being a Globalist hack.
Duly noted . . . must be full blown MAGA to be a real Republican, otherwise you’re a RINO. Keep splintering your own party into smaller voting blocks. It’s worked out great for the White House and US Senate the past few election cycles. You’re division is greatly appreciated.
Guy, you support pedophilia. Lol. Sorry for not taking you serious.
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the nasdaq is down 28% this year. Facebook is down 64% this year. Disney is down 54% this year. It's really weird that people are so upset that Elon is exposing corruption and stopping child porn distribution. I honestly can't understand the hate.
Brainwashed? Says the guy who admittedly doesn't use Twitter but knows it is the republicans who are whining. Spoken like a true liberal.
You do realize that MAGA is a good thing? Wait, you've let the liberal propaganda brainwash you?
FYI, DeSantis will overwhelmingly beat Trumps brains in for pub nod. Luckily you can finally let go of your TDS. Unfortunately for you, DeSantis is going rustle those jimmies even worse.
I doubt he will put them out of business (especially considering the subsidies they get depending on the party in power). However he can absolutely disrupt their stranglehold on the "truth" and that's the most important part imo.
When you see news headlines of today, it's pretty common to see them written like "(insert recent issue), here's what to think". It's pretty appalling to see msm now blatantly tell you they want you to think a certain way. Then you have the much more subtle subversions that happen on other platforms, especially TikTok.
I voted for Gary Johnson…
I heard a news report on the radio yesterday that was critical of musk. That is about all I have seen or heard outside of these Twitter posts.
None of our Pravda has reported it. After it became clear that it destroyed their narratives, they ran from it and hid. Just like all the "liberals" from earlier in this thread.
ItS a tHrAeT tO oUr dEmOcRuCy!!!
ItS a tHrAeT tO oUr dEmOcRuCy!!!
No. Constitutional rights relate to checking government over reach and abuses. Freedom of speech, however, is not just a constitutional issue. It is an ideal some adhere to, others not. Common mistake in these discussions.
When government oppressors partner with big woke companies to suppress speech and liberty, people who love freedom should take notice and seek change.
44 billion to market to conservatives and piss off liberals. Yeah, not buying that theory.
Interesting to suggest that once you become a multibillionaire, the objective is to be the wealthiest, rather than live your life as you choose. LOL
I think it’s woke, white, millennials who are most verklempt. Those are the people I see threatening to leave Twitter in a huff. Maybe you need to get out more. LOL
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