OU to the SEC

[St. Anger]

http://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/2015/6/30/8875043/ou-headed-to-sec-rumors

Just click-bait but it's a fun article. I love this part, "The Big 12 is already dead, it just hasn't had its funeral yet. Nebraska, Colorado, and Texas A&M combined with the Longhorn Network was the final nail in the coffin."

 

[WestCoastCornhusker]

http://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/2015/6/30/8875043/ou-headed-to-sec-rumors

Just click-bait but it's a fun article. I love this part, "The Big 12 is already dead, it just hasn't had its funeral yet. Nebraska, Colorado, and Texas A&M combined with the Longhorn Network was the final nail in the coffin."

OU to SEC, Texas to Pac12, wonder if ND would finally join the BIG if they realize Indiana and Purdue could be making $30 million / year more than they are in tv/conference revenue?

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

OU would much rather play Iowa State, Kansas, K-State, and Texas Tech, than the brutal SEC. Never gonna happen. In the Big 12, maybe one team a year has the same talent as OU, in the SEC, every team has it. No freaking way they go to the SEC.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker]

OU would much rather play Iowa State, Kansas, K-State, and Texas Tech, than the brutal SEC. Never gonna happen. In the Big 12, maybe one team a year has the same talent as OU, in the SEC, every team has it. No freaking way they go to the SEC.

They have no choice, they will be left behind financially if they stay in Big 12, especially if Texas leaves to Pac12.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

OU football isn't going to get left behind. Delusional. OU is a top 10 football program in all of America, they will find a very soft place to land if the Big 12 ever splits up, which I don't think is going to happen.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker]

OU football isn't going to get left behind. Delusional. OU is a top 10 football program in all of America, they will find a very soft place to land if the Big 12 ever splits up, which I don't think is going to happen.

Not Delusional, If OU does not go to SEC, they will make way less money hanging around the Big 12. If Texas goes to Pac12, OU immediately joins SEC

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

OU will be fine. They aren't going to get left behind. You seem to be wishing for their demise, and it isn't going to happen.

 

[lionheartlvk]

Bring them and Kansas to the B1G. The west division would be nice.

 

[Nate004]

16 team league, 4 team pods.

West:
NU
OU
Kansas
Io_a

North
Minnesota
Wisky
Northwestern
Michigan St

Central
OSU
Michigan
Illinois
Indiana

East
Rutgers
Penn St.
Maryland
Purdue

Seems easy enough to me. 8 or 9 game league schedule, followed by a semi-final weekend and then B1G title weekend. It would be the most forward thinking thing Delaney has ever done.

 

[St. Anger]

I will admit, I'd love if even just one of our old Big 8 brethren joined the B1G.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker]

OU will be fine. They aren't going to get left behind. You seem to be wishing for their demise, and it isn't going to happen.

If you want OU to say in the Big 12, you are delusional to think they won't be far behind Indiana, Purdue, Vanderbilt, Kentucky in tv money.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker]

Bring them and Kansas to the B1G. The west division would be nice.

Kansas won't get in BIG, they would be dilution. OU wouldn't be dilution.

 

[NU 71 72 74]

Texas to the PAC 12, Oklahoma to the SEC, ^^ agree, I would be fine with the University of Kansas to the B1G -- solid AAU school plus superb basketball. Being a B1G member would assist Kansas in football recruiting to some degree. St. Anger, maybe you get your wish !

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and, Go Cats !!

 

[vs540husker]

OU would much rather play Iowa State, Kansas, K-State, and Texas Tech, than the brutal SEC. Never gonna happen. In the Big 12, maybe one team a year has the same talent as OU, in the SEC, every team has it. No freaking way they go to the SEC.

The only thing "brutal" about the $EC is the never ending hype they receive from their $2.5 Billion business partner ESPN. If perennial middle of the pack Mizzou and Pinkel can nearly win that conference multiple times, then OU would have no trouble.

 

[bigboxes]

The only thing "brutal" about the $EC is the never ending hype they receive from their $2.5 Billion business partner ESPN. If perennial middle of the pack Mizzou and Pinkel can nearly win that conference multiple times, then OU would have no trouble.

Agreed. OU is Top 10 SEC or no SEC. Outside of Bama no one in the SEC can touch OU on tradition and talent. Mizzou and TAMU compete in that "god" conference. Not so much in the B12/Big 8. It's only a matter of time that OU moves to another conference. The B12 is withering on the vine.

 

[chicolby]

Kansas won't get in BIG, they would be dilution. OU wouldn't be dilution.

You might have forgotten about this sport they play with an orange round ball. I'd say Kansas is quite a brand to bring in, if you ask me.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

The only thing "brutal" about the $EC is the never ending hype they receive from their $2.5 Billion business partner ESPN. If perennial middle of the pack Mizzou and Pinkel can nearly win that conference multiple times, then OU would have no trouble.

Mizzou never nearly won the conference. They made it to the championship game and got their doors blown off both times. That's like saying Nebraska nearly won the B1G. Mizzou picked the perfect time to go the SEC when several traditional powers were down, and they didn't have to play the big boys to get there. Look at their schedule, look at who they beat. There is no argument you can make that the SEC still isn't the best conference, and trying to do so seems weird. It's Ok to admit it, they have been the best, but on the flip side the B1G is trending up, and the SEC is stagnant, so things might be changing. Just don't use Mizzou as an example because if you dive in deeper, they aren't as good as everyone thought. However, they did have a very good QB and WR combo the last few years and a good D-Line, they were a good team.

 

[sparky4986]

Personally I think there is a better chance that OU would join the SEC then the B12. Would I like OU joining us. You bet. Thanksgiving would be great again.

 

[GeorgeFlippin]

Kind of poetic justice that Nebraska really got the ball rolling for the demise of the Big 12. I can see OU leaving as well as texa$$.

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

Kansas won't get in BIG, they would be dilution. OU wouldn't be dilution.

You grossly underestimate the national appeal of KU basketball. You better get used to the idea of KU being in the BiG TeN eventually. I would say that they are almost a lock down the road.

And I think OU has a better chance with the BiG TeN than some have mentioned.

 

[Tyante]

Mizzou never nearly won the conference. They made it to the championship game and got their doors blown off both times. That's like saying Nebraska nearly won the B1G. Mizzou picked the perfect time to go the SEC when several traditional powers were down, and they didn't have to play the big boys to get there. Look at their schedule, look at who they beat. There is no argument you can make that the SEC still isn't the best conference, and trying to do so seems weird. It's Ok to admit it, they have been the best, but on the flip side the B1G is trending up, and the SEC is stagnant, so things might be changing. Just don't use Mizzou as an example because if you dive in deeper, they aren't as good as everyone thought. However, they did have a very good QB and WR combo the last few years and a good D-Line, they were a good team.

What about the argument of all those amazing teams from the SEC West going 0-5 in their bowl games. You can make a better argument the SEC was the most overrated conference last year. At one time Auburn was ranked #2 in the country then went 3-5 in their final 8 games. Miss St beat nobody all year, their best wins coming against teams then ended 4-4 in their conference. Ole Miss claim to fame was upsetting Alabama, but also had no impressive wins outside the conference. I say the Pac-12 was the best conference last season.

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

It's not a good conference realignment speculation thread unless you got some flight-tracker action going!

Something is definitely going down.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

What about the argument of all those amazing teams from the SEC West going 0-5 in their bowl games. You can make a better argument the SEC was the most overrated conference last year. At one time Auburn was ranked #2 in the country then went 3-5 in their final 8 games. Miss St beat nobody all year, their best wins coming against teams then ended 4-4 in their conference. Ole Miss claim to fame was upsetting Alabama, but also had no impressive wins outside the conference. I say the Pac-12 was the best conference last season.

Hence the "Several traditional powers were down" disclaimer. If Nebraska was in the SEC, I think all the people arguing they still aren't the best conference would be singing a different tune. For arguments sake, let's say the Pac 12 was better last year (and I disagree but let's say you're right), what about the previous 7 or 8 years? People act like because the SEC didn't have their best year last year, all the sudden the prior decade didn't happen.

 

[bigboxes]

Sorry Lite, the SEC is very overrated, NU or no NU in their precious conference. When you play little OOC games and have the ESPN hype machine play up every player and team it wears on you. Some give in to that hype. You are exhibit A. Look at Florida. Was on top of the world with Urban Meyer at the helm. He left. Later he turned up at Ohio State. Now, it's the Buckeyes that are that dominant. Florida? Not so much. FSU? Was on the down turn. Now, Fisher is recruiting all that talent and suddenly he looks like a genius. Does that mean the ACC is the toughest conference? Most conferences have one dominant one (at any time) followed by 2-3 that are competitive nationally. Just because Pelini couldn't get us into that group doesn't mean that the B1G is down. No, just means that NU was down under Pelini. Pelini hated recruiting and it showed with the players he started.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

I guess the NFL teams drafting more players from the SEC every year than anywhere else, sports writers and coaches alike, along with all those pesky national title trophies they've won in the last decade have it all wrong, not to mention the recruiting services that continually put all those SEC teams at the top of their rankings..... Interesting. All that, yet they aren't all that. Alllrighty then.

 

[Anon1667477516]

16 team league, 4 team pods.

West:
NU
OU
Kansas
Io_a

North
Minnesota
Wisky
Northwestern
Michigan St

Central
OSU
Michigan
Illinois
Indiana

East
Rutgers
Penn St.
Maryland
Purdue

Seems easy enough to me. 8 or 9 game league schedule, followed by a semi-final weekend and then B1G title weekend. It would be the most forward thinking thing Delaney has ever done.

It doesn't have to be this complicated -- simply add KU and OU to the West and move Purdue to the East. Eight Central time zone teams in one division, and the eight Eastern ones in the other. Even the original Big Ten gets split five and five.

Football would have 7 division games and 2 crossover games (either 8 teams over 4 years, or 8 over 8 -- if home-and-home matters). There wouldn't need to be any protected rivalries.

From a division standpoint, It's almost like getting the Big Eight back -- except we know NU fans won't ever accept eight-team division championships the same as Big 8 conference championships.

 

[bigboxes]

I guess the NFL teams drafting more players from the SEC every year than anywhere else, sports writers and coaches alike, along with all those pesky national title trophies they've won in the last decade have it all wrong, not to mention the recruiting services that continually put all those SEC teams at the top of their rankings..... Interesting. All that, yet they aren't all that. Alllrighty then.

The NFL drafts lots of players out of Iowa. That doesn't mean that Iowa has superior coaching staff or they are world beaters. And you're talking about a conference having the best team on any given year (and even that is debatable), not that it is the best conference.

 

[balsy]

It doesn't have to be this complicated -- simply add KU and OU to the West and move Purdue to the East. Eight Central time zone teams in one division, and the eight Eastern ones in the other. Even the original Big Ten gets split five and five.

Football would have 7 division games and 2 crossover games (either 8 teams over 4 years, or 8 over 8 -- if home-and-home matters). There wouldn't need to be any protected rivalries.

From a division standpoint, It's almost like getting the Big Eight back -- except we know NU fans won't ever accept eight-team division championships the same as Big 8 conference championships.

The pod idea is better. You play the three teams every year in your pod and two teams out of the other pods. 9 game conference schedule and you get to play every team within a players time at school twice. Take the two best records regardless of what pods they are in. I dont think you need a semi final game.

 

[vs540husker]

Mizzou never nearly won the conference. They made it to the championship game and got their doors blown off both times. That's like saying Nebraska nearly won the B1G. Mizzou picked the perfect time to go the SEC when several traditional powers were down, and they didn't have to play the big boys to get there. Look at their schedule, look at who they beat. There is no argument you can make that the SEC still isn't the best conference, and trying to do so seems weird. It's Ok to admit it, they have been the best, but on the flip side the B1G is trending up, and the SEC is stagnant, so things might be changing. Just don't use Mizzou as an example because if you dive in deeper, they aren't as good as everyone thought. However, they did have a very good QB and WR combo the last few years and a good D-Line, they were a good team.

Uhh, the 2013 $EC CCG was still any ones game with 6:00 minutes left in the 4th and Mizzou made a rally to pull within one possession going into the 4th against Bama. Neither of those qualify as getting "their doors blown off".
I can make a lot of arguments that the $EC isn't a God walking amongst mortals. Such as favorable rankings lead by ESPN hype to get teams placed much higher than they should be. Favorable bowl match-ups against inferior teams (that the sec still barely won) that make their bowl records look better. Pairing two $EC teams up for the championship despite them having already played due to ESPN pandering. Texas starting QB going down in the opening minutes against Bama. Oklahoma choking, yet again, against Florida. The $EC West and it's bowl meltdown last year (despite ESPN claiming literally 4 $EC West teams should be in the playoff). And so on and so forth...
Is the $EC good? Yes, without question. Are they this unmovable force the media, lead by their multi-billion dollar business partner ESPN, makes them out to be? Hell no! Some favorable polling, luck and other normal power teams being down, is what got them to where they were a few years ago.

 

[Tyante]

Hence the "Several traditional powers were down" disclaimer. If Nebraska was in the SEC, I think all the people arguing they still aren't the best conference would be singing a different tune. For arguments sake, let's say the Pac 12 was better last year (and I disagree but let's say you're right), what about the previous 7 or 8 years? People act like because the SEC didn't have their best year last year, all the sudden the prior decade didn't happen.

You're claim was the SEC is the best conference. If you had claimed they were the best conference over the last decade, you'd have a better argument. I was making a point at this time, the SEC is not the best conference.

 

[LooseCannon]

Kansas won't get in BIG, they would be dilution. OU wouldn't be dilution.

KU will be in the B1G before OU. Kansas will be in the Big Ten when the Big 12 dies. OU will probably go SEC or PAC. OU is just trying to get their name out there that they want out of the crappy Big 12.

 

[Anon1667477516]

The pod idea is better. You play the three teams every year in your pod and two teams out of the other pods. 9 game conference schedule and you get to play every team within a players time at school twice. Take the two best records regardless of what pods they are in. I dont think you need a semi final game.

I'd rather NU develop rivalries with the seven schools in closest proximity, just like the Big 8 days. That happens if you play teams annually, not sporadically. I couldn't care less if NU never plays Indiana, Purdue, Rutgers or Maryland.

The WAC-16 tried quad/pod scheduling in the 90s, and it was so popular with fans that the original WAC schools (exception of UTEP) withdrew from the conference to create the Mountain West.

 

[Nate004]

I'd rather NU develop rivalries with the seven schools in closest proximity, just like the Big 8 days. That happens if you play teams annually, not sporadically. I couldn't care less if NU never plays Indiana, Purdue, Rutgers or Maryland.

The WAC-16 tried quad/pod scheduling in the 90s, and it was so popular with fans that the original WAC schools (exception of UTEP) withdrew from the conference to create the Mountain West.

Might as well just leave this discussion as is. What you want is the old way, and what I was bringing up is a new way. In my mind, a true semi final weekend against whatever contest the PAC and SEC throw at us is a win for the Big 10. Think about a weekend of NU Vs. Michigan St. & Ohio St. vs. Penn St. for the right to go to the conference title game. Once in a while the PAC and SEC might throw a comparable game name wise, but even then, the chances of both teams being in the hunt, with the winner representing in the title game are low. I could see the networks tripping all over each other to televise it. The B1G would become the visionaries. It would be great!

Also, if you really need to a figment of the old Big 8 (which is a pipe dream in itself, but lets go with it), then make the West and North one league, Central and East another, and have most of the games against teams in your league.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

Yeah you got me with Iowa. Point, set, and match. Iowa. That will leave a mark.

Uhh, the 2013 $EC CCG was still any ones game with 6:00 minutes left in the 4th and Mizzou made a rally to pull within one possession going into the 4th against Bama. Neither of those qualify as getting "their doors blown off".
I can make a lot of arguments that the $EC isn't a God walking amongst mortals. Such as favorable rankings lead by ESPN hype to get teams placed much higher than they should be. Favorable bowl match-ups against inferior teams (that the sec still barely won) that make their bowl records look better. Pairing two $EC teams up for the championship despite them having already played due to ESPN pandering. Texas starting QB going down in the opening minutes against Bama. Oklahoma choking, yet again, against Florida. The $EC West and it's bowl meltdown last year (despite ESPN claiming literally 4 $EC West teams should be in the playoff). And so on and so forth...
Is the $EC good? Yes, without question. Are they this unmovable force the media, lead by their multi-billion dollar business partner ESPN, makes them out to be? Hell no! Some favorable polling, luck and other normal power teams being down, is what got them to where they were a few years ago.

59-42 isn't that close. 42-13 isn't that close.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

You're claim was the SEC is the best conference. If you had claimed they were the best conference over the last decade, you'd have a better argument. I was making a point at this time, the SEC is not the best conference.

They are the best conference, and have been for the last decade.

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

I can't stand any kind of pod idea what so ever. It completely over complicates things, it's like someone engineering a solution to a problem that doesn't exists. If there are enough teams in each division, you play those teams and your non-conference and then the division winners meet in the conference championship. If you want some interesting crossovers, then that's cool, but the pod idea is beyond silly to me.

And the whole point of it is basically the CCG games act as a sort of playoff game, with the winners going to the 4 team playoff in most instances.

 

[Yossarian23]

Yeah you got me with Iowa. Point, set, and match. Iowa. That will leave a mark.



59-42 isn't that close. 42-13 isn't that close.

Just before Mizzou cut it to 42-45, Auburn literally knocks out the guy making the Mizzou running game go. Josey ended his game with 123 yards on 9 carries. The rest of the team had 108 on 25 carries.

That injury completely changed a back and forth game with 8 lead changes into what appears to be a 17 point blowout.

Box Score

 

[balsy]

I can't stand any kind of pod idea what so ever. It completely over complicates things, it's like someone engineering a solution to a problem that doesn't exists. If there are enough teams in each division, you play those teams and your non-conference and then the division winners meet in the conference championship. If you want some interesting crossovers, then that's cool, but the pod idea is beyond silly to me.

And the whole point of it is basically the CCG games act as a sort of playoff game, with the winners going to the 4 team playoff in most

Lol, it's not really that hard to figure out the pods. I'd just like to watch penn state, ohio state, and Michigan in lincoln two, maybe three times a decade. If you just split into eight you probably only get one of those teams twice and the rest ONCE every 10 years. I think it would keep the schedules more fair across the conference as well.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

I don't think it's even debatable about who the best conference is personally, and who has been the best, because there is just way to much data out there to prove it, but if people still want to believe otherwise that's cool. Seems silly to me, but I am smart enough to know my opinion isn't anymore valuable than anyone else's.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker]

You grossly underestimate the national appeal of KU basketball. You better get used to the idea of KU being in the BiG TeN eventually. I would say that they are almost a lock down the road.

And I think OU has a better chance with the BiG TeN than some have mentioned.

IMO, Texas Tech, Baylor, or TCU is worth more to BIG with the Texas market. KU is a basketball only school, no one wants UCONN.