our "awesome" recruiting class by The Recruiter

Coach34 · Feb 6, 2012

PF NR NR Shawn Long- gone (Morgan City HS) Morgan City, LA 6-10/225 04/29/2011 Mississippi State 
<div>PF NR Roquez Johnson - work in progress (Carver Senior HS) Montgomery, AL 6-7/210 03/23/2011 Mississippi State 
<div>SG 19 David Gardner - long gone (Okolona HS) Okolona, MS 6-6/205 10/29/2010 Mississippi State 
<div>SF 5 Rodney Hood - lived up to the hype (Meridian HS) Meridian, MS 6-7/185 10/27/2010 Mississippi State 
</div><div>PG 27 Deville Smith- likely gone (Callaway Sr HS) Jackson, MS 5-11/165 05/01/2010 Mississippi State

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</div><div>We're going to lose 4 starters- next season is going to be rough- we will be 2006 bad....this season is The Recruiter's last chance to make it happen</div>

Coach34 · Feb 6, 2012

PF NR NR Shawn Long- gone (Morgan City HS) Morgan City, LA 6-10/225 04/29/2011 Mississippi State 
<div>PF NR Roquez Johnson - work in progress (Carver Senior HS) Montgomery, AL 6-7/210 03/23/2011 Mississippi State 
<div>SG 19 David Gardner - long gone (Okolona HS) Okolona, MS 6-6/205 10/29/2010 Mississippi State 
<div>SF 5 Rodney Hood - lived up to the hype (Meridian HS) Meridian, MS 6-7/185 10/27/2010 Mississippi State 
</div><div>PG 27 Deville Smith- likely gone (Callaway Sr HS) Jackson, MS 5-11/165 05/01/2010 Mississippi State

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</div><div>We're going to lose 4 starters- next season is going to be rough- we will be 2006 bad....this season is The Recruiter's last chance to make it happen</div>

Coach34 · Feb 6, 2012

PF NR NR Shawn Long- gone (Morgan City HS) Morgan City, LA 6-10/225 04/29/2011 Mississippi State 
<div>PF NR Roquez Johnson - work in progress (Carver Senior HS) Montgomery, AL 6-7/210 03/23/2011 Mississippi State 
<div>SG 19 David Gardner - long gone (Okolona HS) Okolona, MS 6-6/205 10/29/2010 Mississippi State 
<div>SF 5 Rodney Hood - lived up to the hype (Meridian HS) Meridian, MS 6-7/185 10/27/2010 Mississippi State 
</div><div>PG 27 Deville Smith- likely gone (Callaway Sr HS) Jackson, MS 5-11/165 05/01/2010 Mississippi State

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</div><div>We're going to lose 4 starters- next season is going to be rough- we will be 2006 bad....this season is The Recruiter's last chance to make it happen</div>

Coach34 · Feb 6, 2012

PF NR NR Shawn Long- gone (Morgan City HS) Morgan City, LA 6-10/225 04/29/2011 Mississippi State 
<div>PF NR Roquez Johnson - work in progress (Carver Senior HS) Montgomery, AL 6-7/210 03/23/2011 Mississippi State 
<div>SG 19 David Gardner - long gone (Okolona HS) Okolona, MS 6-6/205 10/29/2010 Mississippi State 
<div>SF 5 Rodney Hood - lived up to the hype (Meridian HS) Meridian, MS 6-7/185 10/27/2010 Mississippi State 
</div><div>PG 27 Deville Smith- likely gone (Callaway Sr HS) Jackson, MS 5-11/165 05/01/2010 Mississippi State

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</div><div>We're going to lose 4 starters- next season is going to be rough- we will be 2006 bad....this season is The Recruiter's last chance to make it happen</div>

dawgstudent · Feb 6, 2012

let's say no Sweet 16 this season and we really struggle next season - is he gone?

I would hope so. Unfortunately, next season is shaping up to be really bad.

Incognegro · Feb 6, 2012

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DFWdawg.sixpack · Feb 6, 2012

As oddas it sounds, I think that this could somewhat depend on the football and baseball teams' success this season. If we go to the postseason in baseball and win another bowl game in football, the overall athletic department stability would be such that a coaching change would be allowable. Byrne, and now Stricklin have built the recent success on improving MSU's athletics as a whole and not just focusing on one sport. If we have enough "goodwill" in other sports, I think we can afford to can a "successful" coach like Stansbury. However, if the other sports struggle, I can not see them wanting to introduce instability into the school's athletic department with the major improvement in support and projects we have committed to in the near future.

engie · Feb 6, 2012

SEASON MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2011-12 30.0 4.6-9.5 .486 0.2-0.5 .417 3.1-4.1 .747 7.8 0.8 1.1 0.7 2.3 1.5 12.5

SEASON MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2011-12 21.9 4.0-7.4 .534 0.6-1.4 .444 1.7-2.7 .611 4.9 0.5 0.7 1.0 2.9 1.6 10.2

SEASON MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2011-12 22.4 3.2-7.8 .413 0.0-0.1 .000 2.5-4.9 .515 6.4 0.3 0.6 0.4 3.6 2.4 8.9

fishwater99 · Feb 6, 2012

He will be preaching the "We are Young and talented, this team just needs some time" argument. I can already hear it now...

PG Gray
SG Steele
SF Hood
SF Pollard
C Lewis

Bench.... Euro, Sword, Ware, Thomas, S. Smith, R. Johnson

We will be starting 2 Freshmens and 3 will be coming off the bench to play significant minutes...
We will be firing 3 pointers once again, with very little inside presence...
Live and Die by the 3 Ball..

Coach34 · Feb 6, 2012

who's the biggest hurdle to getting him?

FlabLoser · Feb 6, 2012

dawgstudent said:
let's say no Sweet 16 this season and we really struggle next season - is he gone?

I would hope so. Unfortunately, next season is shaping up to be really bad.

I thought you were giving him a pass as long as he makes the tournament every couple years or so.

Irondawg · Feb 6, 2012

That looks like a situation beyond the coching staff's decision and the NCAA screwing us the big Euro didn't help either. Those 2 things have killed our depth.

Johnson is a high energy guy that helped us get Sword and could be a valuable role player.

My problem is that Stans keeps on taking high risk/attitude guys like Gardner/Long and hopeing one of them turns into all-SEC, but if they don't he's killing his bench and lockeroom chemistry. He needs to sign at least one guy every other class that is just pure hustle - maybe he's not a starter, but a guy who flies all around the court and will help off the bench and keep practices going.

Then ashe'srecruiting these 4-star kids - he needsto find one of two who have that "we're winning this 17ing game" attitude.It's been clear the past 4 years or so that we have zero lockeroom leadership. We know Stans doesn't command the full respect ofhis team, but as a player if I were watching game film of our defensive effort the past few weeks, we'd have a come toJesusplayer-only meeting.

That guy needs to be Dee orMoultrie and i just don't see it out of them yet.

engie · Feb 6, 2012

that probably "know" alot more than I do think he's ours to lose, and say it is between us and Bama. Personally, I'm a bit pessimistic on getting him, for no real reason, just a feeling. He's the most highly-rated player to come out of MS in awhile, and appears to be a smart kid that wants to go somewhere that gives him the best/most direct path to the pro level. He speaks repetitively about going somewhere that will coach him into becoming a better player. Even as a big State fan, IF I had the option that he does in HS, it's highly unlikely that I would end up at State(at least under Stansbury)...

slickdawg · Feb 6, 2012

C: W Lewis
PF: R Johnson
SF: R Hood
SG: Steele
PG: Smith/Gray

That's going to be painful.

fishwater99 · Feb 6, 2012

UK would like to have him, but he would not be the main attraction there...

Shmuley · Feb 6, 2012

patdog · Feb 6, 2012

All that matters is the record. That said, as long as Stans can get us into the NCAA tournament half the time, and the NIT half the time he misses, he's going to be fine. So, NCAA this year and NIT next year and he stays. NCAA first weekend loss and miss the NIT next year and it gets real dicey for him.

engie · Feb 6, 2012

I think Sword could be immediately better in that role...depending on how he does in summer ball/early fall. Also, I expect Zeidaks(sp) to get a look at C...

dawgstudent · Feb 6, 2012

if we go this year and don't next, that's 3 out of 8. Should be gone.

If he gets to the sweet 16 this year - he will probably get a pass for next season.

patdog · Feb 6, 2012

He has to know the kinds of risks he's taking by signing the players he's been signing the last few years. He knew Deville was a high risk player and it blew up on him. Stans needs to be a lot smarter about the type of players he recruits. He's done a little better lately (Moultrie & Hood) but he needs to quit putting all his eggs into players who aren't going to make it.

fishwater99 · Feb 6, 2012

Maybe you mean Ware....

engie · Feb 6, 2012

brain malfunction*

o_rexxx · Feb 6, 2012

Can't we get through this season before we give up on next season?

DAWG61 · Feb 6, 2012

better get to work on finding a way to convince Moultrie and Sidney to come back next year. Good luck Rick.

fishwater99 · Feb 6, 2012

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Seinfeld · Feb 6, 2012

I know fans are getting sick of the so called headcases that seem to always be around this team, but sometimes I wonder if that's the only shot we have to be relevant. Sidney is definitely the extreme, but high risk players aren't exactly a new thing around Starkville. Going all the way back to our Final Four team... Dontae Jones, Bullard, Jackson, Ervin, Sharpe, Rhodes, Gordon, Kodi, and now the current group.

Looking back, we probably would have been better off without a lot of those guys, but my point is that I'm not sure that Stans has much of a choice other than taking risks on players like this. He's not going to beat out the big boys for recruits very often unless it happens to be for someone in our own backyard. So I think Stansbury feels like he has to take some risks while also working hard to pull in a quality transfer every now and then. I'd love to have nothing but great attitudes on the team but if Stans starts signing only those, I think we'll see a drastic drop in recruiting. Maybe we'd be better off... Who knows

KurtRambis4 · Feb 6, 2012

that matters is March.

klerushund · Feb 6, 2012

...this year. I'm not saying it will happen, but it's possible that Moutlrie (and to a greater extent Sidney) are back. There hasn't been a draft this deep in quite a while (due to all the guys who stayed in school last year because of the lockout). It could mean several guys decide to stay and be a 1st rounder in 2013 instead of a high 2nd rounder in 2012.

msuwx03 · Feb 6, 2012

That's what I am thinking too. I know we had some mysterious article saying Sidney is leaving, but not entirely sure where he would leave to. And granted Moultrie has good draft status, but sometimes kids decide to come back, and I certainly think it is at least possible.

Dawgbreeze · Feb 6, 2012

And coach will still be throwing out his daily tirade to try and make it happen. We will get Pollard and we have two very good guards coming in. Debate it all you want to but Stans is the best coach on our campus regardless of coach's obsession with him!

DAWG61 · Feb 6, 2012

5 committs for next year with Pollard hopefully making 6. We lose Bost, Bryant, Luczak for sure. Add the Euro and that makes 6-7 new bodies. How does this work?

Rutherford B Hays · Feb 6, 2012

We will beat Stanford by 12 in the first round.
We will be tied with Duke in the second round with 1:00 left and lose by four.

Same song, 12th verse

IBleedMaroonDawg · Feb 6, 2012

BasketballGuy · Feb 6, 2012

Apparently Deville is back today and practicing this week. That is a good sign but he is still going to have to work out his demons so to speak.

Pollard is OURS to lose. Period. I was told by a coach that we recruited him since the 7th grade and he is like family to the Stansburys. He went on to say that if he went somewhere else, it would be Scotty Hopson times 10.

Next year will be a challenge. Moultrie is projected as a lottery pick right now, and he will most likely be gone.
I expect Sid to leave one way or the other. That is just the feeling I get.
Kris (the Euro) will be a pleasant surprise when he finally hits the court. With Kris, Hood, Pollard, and Gray, I believe we will be much better than you might think.

Coach34 · Feb 6, 2012

and will be tough to overcome- no matter how talented...If Deville could get all his issues worked out, it would go a long way in stabilizing the guard position.<div>
</div><div>Sidney is gone, Moultrie is gonna get paid...just going to be some big holes to fill next season</div>

State82 · Feb 6, 2012

Big family packs of hotdogs.

Dawgbreeze · Feb 6, 2012

Go ahead and tell us where you got that info?

captaindawg · Feb 6, 2012

He is throwing stuff against a wall to see what sticks. He won't reveal his sources because he doesn't have any.

Irondawg · Feb 6, 2012

But if you don't have any glue guys it all falls apart. We had Super D and then Bowers/Roberts that imposed their will on those championship teams.

Jamont had a huge desire to win and he played hard on defense, but he ended up looking like a ball-hog and I think that turned some teammates against him. Varnado was just too mild mannered to be the vocal guy in the locker room.

We're missing locker toom leadership and it shows over the past few years.

Barkman Turner Overdrive · Feb 6, 2012

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