our "awesome" recruiting class by The Recruiter

[Coach34]

you've had other publications say it...but I'm mainly going by an overall feel and look<div>
</div><div>He just looks like he doesnt want to come back and The Recruiter doesnt necessarily want him back</div><div>
</div><div>I see him going to Palestine to hoop it up in the Holy Land or some other God-forsaken place</div>

 

[DAWG61]

But if you don't have any glue guys it all falls apart. We had Super D and then Bowers/Roberts that imposed their will on those championship teams.

Jamont had a huge desire to win and he played hard on defense, but he ended up looking like a ball-hog and I think that turned some teammates against him. Varnado was just too mild mannered to be the vocal guy in the locker room.

We're missing locker toom leadership and it shows over the past few years.

http://m.youtube.com/inde...=US#/watch?v=RzToNo7A-94

 

[Forrest4Moore]

But, cool story bro.

 

[Rutherford B Hays]

A Freshmanguard, especially PG,is scary regardless of who it is. Zim and Timmy both turned out well though.

 

[Forrest4Moore]

Let's assume Moultrie, Sid, and Deville come back. Plus we sign Pollard and add in the Euro. Then what do we expect next year?

It's amazing how this season still has two months left and some are trying to figure out which dominoes have to fall to get our coach fired at the end of next season?

 

[CadaverDawg]

We are Mississippi State, not North Carolina. We can't expect to get the talent AND the gritty role players with killer instinct. You kinda have to pick your poison when you're a school like ours. As soon as you guys get what you want and Stans gets canned, we will likely tank and after a year or two you will be wishing we had kept him.

I'm not a huge Bury supporter, but I get it when it comes to what he is trying to do. He is not a great play caller but he can recruit the **** out of talent. So, he grabs as many *****'s as he can every single class and tries his best to keep them all. But, when he loses a few to transfers, grades, or discipline, the cupboard is still usually full enough to make it to the dance or the NIT. And while that sucks to not be able to make it further every year, we know that if he ever gets an entire class to stay together, we can make a Final Four with that type of talent. It may not ever happen, but let him leave and we could easily be looking at a tourney appearance every 10 years or worse.

I know that as long as Stans is the coach we have a shot every season to make a run to the tourney. Not many teams out there can say that. That's why I do not want to Cutcliffe the guy and then go through what Arkansas has been going through since Nolan Richardson left. I know Stansbury is no Richardson, but when it comes to basketball tradition, MSU is no Arkansas. The grass is definitely not always greener.

This sounds like a f*cking jeanspage post, but I just don't understand what everybody is expecting from the basketball program. Stansbury would be picked up by someone in a heartbeat if we got rid of him. Mullen can probably win 6-8 games a year and go to small bowls and we will be perfectly content, but Stansbury is expected to win a damn title every year to please everybody. Would it make everybody happier if Stans was not a good recruiter but he was a great X's and O's guy, and he led us to the same amount of tourney appearances and we lost in the first or second round because we went up against more talent and although we outcoach them, their talent is too much to overcome and we lose? No, at least he puts enough talent on the court to give us a shot at a final four. He makes me want to pull my hair out all of the time, but the argument against him isn't as strong as the argument for keeping him.

That is all

 

[Coach34]

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[BiscuitEater]

Pollard is OURS to lose. Period. I was told by a coach that we recruited him since the 7th grade and he is like family to the Stansburys. He went on to say that if he went somewhere else, it would be Scotty Hopson times 10.

know exactly "how" Pollard could ever be worse than Hopson X 10?


Hopson was a verbal commit for over a year. Stans (the recruiter) was on him way longer than any other coach and Hopson flipped the last few weeks. Stans treats most recruits 'like family.'

 

[Dawgbreeze]

They can't enjoy being successful so they start the same kind of thread every year and sometimes, every day. Most intelligent folks see through it but it is part of the SixPack mentality, and they never have a better replacement or solution. We have heard how Gottfried, Brady, Pearl, Jay Wright at Villanova, and numerous others were the solution but smart folks know we have a good one now.

 

[Irondawg]

I'm not saying we're going to get a ton of high star, high caliber guys - very few of those guys exist. I'm just saying you have to recruit one or two guys every 2-3 years that you plan on helping hold the team accountable. You can find 1 guy every 3 years that shows some leadership skills.

Look - for years half the team pays no attention to the coaches in timeouts and this year Dee has stepped little bit, but does so by undercutting the coach and calling his own plays after the huddle. Now, they've worked, but it's still a sign of problems.

I know the TV only shows certain angles, but when it the last time you saw one of our guys grab some teammates by the collar and tell them to get their head in the game. The last few teams have showed almost no emotion on the court and I personally believe that's one of the reasons for the zombie like atmosphere in the game.

We're really good this year - no NC good, but sweet 16 legitimate run good. However, we're also the most apathetic team on the floor of any decent team i've watched this year for the most part.

 

[MSUBully1]

Deville is on campus and practicing with the team today.

 

[DAWG61]

Let's assume Moultrie, Sid, and Deville come back. Plus we sign Pollard and add in the Euro. Then what do we expect next year?

It's amazing how this season still has two months left and some are trying to figure out which dominoes have to fall to get our coach fired at the end of next season?

5 committs plus Pollard and the Euro makes 7. Bost,Bryant, and Luczak are the only seniors. Luczak might not even be on scholarship this year.

 

[Forrest4Moore]

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And next year we return 2 starters at least including probably the best returning freshman in the conference. Plus we have at least a 50% chance in retaining Sid, considering all other scenarios are just speculation. And at least a 10% chance in getting Moultrie to return considering the depth of the draft class. Then the possibility of adding a blue chip forward in Pollard.

I'm just pointing out that we could return more talent for next year than we did Bost's first year. And while I'm sure the point we have next year won't be as good as Dee was his first year the fact remains that our last NCAA appearance directly contradicts your earlier post. Then you try to spin it as us returning a ton of talent that year. When in actuality we could possibly return more next year.

Plus, it is quite impressive in itself for a frosh PG to lead a 4 game run in 4 days to a conference tournament crown, clinching a tournament berth. Even moreso contradicting your earlier post.

I'm not saying we will make the tournament next year. But we have just as good a shot as we did in 2009 with a freshman PG.

 

[Johnson85]

he would have gone there after UTEP. Probably doesn't matter, as he'll be a high draft pick even with the draft being loaded, but the fact that he sat out a year rather than take his chances at the time (and I thought I remembered him being projected solidly in the first round), means he might be the type of player that was willing to come back for a year to move from the teens to somewhere around number 5. That said, he's almost certainly gone.

Don't understand why Sidney would be gone though. I guess he's improved his position a little bit, but he could have gone to a second tier Euro league after last year. Why do it this year unless he's just realized that he's never making the NBA and just wants to get paid as quickly as possible.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

I believe is what he was implying.

 

[Dawgbreeze]

I believe is what he was implying.

Do you two have pillow talk every night? I guess it will not surprise any of us that you and coach agree on almost everything concerning basketball. I am going to practice Wednesday and will make sure they do opposite of anything you two suggest.

 

[HotMop]

What happened to the 2 that left?

 

[DAWG61]

What happened to the 2 that left?

removed them both from the team right after the Euro trip.

 

[squirldawg]

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[KennyRogers]

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[DawgatAuburn]

First he said some players were gone. Then he said Deville was likely gone. Then he said we lose four starters which I inferred was Dee, Bryant, Sidney and Moultrie, so feel free to argue with what I thought he implied there too. Anyway, then he said NEXT YEAR was going to suck. I know you went to school with ink on papyrus, but surely you picked up some reading comprehension by the 90s. And by 90s I mean your age.

 

[dawgged]

Granted every single one of these scenarios about folks leaving could come to pass. But there's also the possibility some could stay. Moultrie has said he won't leave unless he's a guaranteed first rounder. He certainly appears to be one, but you never know. Sidney should stay, cause he's certainly not ready for professional ball and another year MIGHT help him. And some of the newcomers could contribute immediately. But there is no doubt this is definitely the year we need to get it done because we won't be as good next year. But I'm not willing to say just yet we will be horrible.

 

[whosyourdawgy]

He's already got a better class recruited for next season and if Pollard signs, it will be a top 15-20 class if not better.

Shawn Long wasa late get that noone had eyes on. He's 6'10 and athletic. We had a scholarship to offer on a year basis. Why not take a shot on him? It didn't work out and Shawn wanted to be closer to his kid in LA. Good for him

Roquez is a tremendous athlete that again was a project but also a means to other players. I still think it's a good signee because it worked! He may grow 3 inches over the next 2 years and be a beast, who knows?

David Gardner was a dead eye shooter that was definitely worth the offer. Did Stans and co tell him he'd be redshirted or not? Still no excuse for Gardner's actions. He wasn't ready for SEC guard play and a year would've done him good. I see nothing wrong with offering a talent like this

Deville is the same way. Highly touted point guard no matter how you look at it. And you see it on the court. He's a freshman and has a lot to learn about big time college basketball, but you can't teach his speed and quickness or his ability. He's had health concerns be that what they are. Stans is supposed to be able to control these issues? Give me a freaking break. Likely gone according to youbut also according to you he wouldn't even come back to school. Well, he's practiciing.

Rodney Hood makes this class great. How many true freshmen have come to MSU and done what he has? Nuff said.

Kristers Zeidaks was a great last second pick up that in everyone's opinion except the NCAA would be eligible to play once the NCAA cleared him from his play in Europe. We all know how that's gone. This situation has caused us more grief than any of the others except maybe Deville because he would be our immediate depth at the 3 and even 4 spot. The 3 spot is our truly only really weak back up spot behind Hood. Again, Stansbury researched this situation and according to eveyone involved it was only a formality to get him eligible.

So, this was a solid class when the papers were signed. Things happen at damn near every school across the country. Look at UM with Nelson. Look at the kid that got cleared miraculously by the NCAA after having to repay like what 9K after accepting a car and other things? Things happen.

Your hatred for Stansbury is so freaking tired and done, I don't even know why I bother responding. The guy will soon pass some pretty big named coaches for total wins and break the 300 win victory probably before this season is over. Does he have faults. Definitely. Do I get pissed at some of his calls. Sure. But he is the coach of our basketball team. He isn't going anywhere after this season and probably for many years to come. So, keep posting the hate and making yourself feel better, but you are gonna be disappointed for a long time because Stans is gonna be on our sidelines for a while. And I'm fine with that.

 

[fishwater99]

Long had a kid and got homesick... Gardner and his mom got pissed he was not going to play this year and called Stans a liar and make some tweets about it.. He was kicked off the team and is now at ICC in Fulton..

 

[aTotal360]

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[Dawgbreeze]

He was not highly recruited but Murray got on him early and he stuck with him. It was also a choice of him or Bost. We took Bost and I think both teams came out okay on that deal.

 

[Dawgbreeze]

He's already got a better class recruited for next season and if Pollard signs, it will be a top 15-20 class if not better.

Shawn Long wasa late get that noone had eyes on. He's 6'10 and athletic. We had a scholarship to offer on a year basis. Why not take a shot on him? It didn't work out and Shawn wanted to be closer to his kid in LA. Good for him

Roquez is a tremendous athlete that again was a project but also a means to other players. I still think it's a good signee because it worked! He may grow 3 inches over the next 2 years and be a beast, who knows?

David Gardner was a dead eye shooter that was definitely worth the offer. Did Stans and co tell him he'd be redshirted or not? Still no excuse for Gardner's actions. He wasn't ready for SEC guard play and a year would've done him good. I see nothing wrong with offering a talent like this

Deville is the same way. Highly touted point guard no matter how you look at it. And you see it on the court. He's a freshman and has a lot to learn about big time college basketball, but you can't teach his speed and quickness or his ability. He's had health concerns be that what they are. Stans is supposed to be able to control these issues? Give me a freaking break. Likely gone according to youbut also according to you he wouldn't even come back to school. Well, he's practiciing.

Rodney Hood makes this class great. How many true freshmen have come to MSU and done what he has? Nuff said.

Kristers Zeidaks was a great last second pick up that in everyone's opinion except the NCAA would be eligible to play once the NCAA cleared him from his play in Europe. We all know how that's gone. This situation has caused us more grief than any of the others except maybe Deville because he would be our immediate depth at the 3 and even 4 spot. The 3 spot is our truly only really weak back up spot behind Hood. Again, Stansbury researched this situation and according to eveyone involved it was only a formality to get him eligible.

So, this was a solid class when the papers were signed. Things happen at damn near every school across the country. Look at UM with Nelson. Look at the kid that got cleared miraculously by the NCAA after having to repay like what 9K after accepting a car and other things? Things happen.

Your hatred for Stansbury is so freaking tired and done, I don't even know why I bother responding. The guy will soon pass some pretty big named coaches for total wins and break the 300 win victory probably before this season is over. Does he have faults. Definitely. Do I get pissed at some of his calls. Sure. But he is the coach of our basketball team. He isn't going anywhere after this season and probably for many years to come. So, keep posting the hate and making yourself feel better, but you are gonna be disappointed for a long time because Stans is gonna be on our sidelines for a while. And I'm fine with that.

Most of the board is well aware of the vendetta and like you, we should just ignore them, but you are correct, Stans isn't going anywhere, Scott is fine with him and realizes how good a job he does, and no matter how much Coach and his buddies try to distort the truth, we are lucky to have Stansbury.