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Sunday afternoon you say? Picture looks like late evening and getting dusky, so could it be that the park closes at 8pm on Sunday's? Couldn't be a biased picture like a zoom in of a Hillary crowd could it? Maybe we should take a picture of the Walmart parking lot at 3am and use that as justification that building a 24hr super center was a waste of money.
 
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Saw a post from an uber-liberal friend of mine based on the same thing, and the first thing I thought was that biggaysean had his drone out to play.

Sunday at noon at a thing designed for church folks. Shocking there wasn't a big crowd. People are stupid (both sides)

It's a huge waste of time, money and resources, but the same could be said about a lot of things. It's obviously not living up to Ham's expectations, so that enhances the wastefulness.

Me and Jesus are tight, but it was a dumb project that brought out the dumb in everyone involved.
 
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UPSCat4080 said:
Pretty sure there were $0 of anyone's tax dollars given to the project. They were given tax breaks. Took away from what would have been extra $$$...sure. Gave them tax $$$...false.
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This is correct. There is a special tax incentive in Kentucky related to tourism that basically amounts to a rebate of sales taxes collected, up to 25% of a project's cost. In this case, that could reach $18 or so million. In that were to happen though, it means that the Park was wildly successful and the state benefited immensely from the 75% of total sales taxes that it otherwise wouldn't have collected if there were no Park. If it tanks and there are $0 in sales taxes to collect by the state, then the Park gets $0 in rebates.

The Ark Park is a monumentally stupid thing, but it's equally stupid to claim that the government spent $18 million to build the damn thing.
 
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Tax breaks if they met criteria of revenue.

OP is a fool, but we knew that. How many people worked on the thing? How much money was spent on construction? How many are employed due to it? How many little businesses around there are benefiting?

Why ***** about people actually working...making money? Doesn't matter whether you believe in the thing or not. I don't believe in Mickey Mouse either but I visit his place for entertainment. Nothing comes out of your damn pocket unless you CHOOSE to spend $$ there.

Some people will gripe about anything obviously. And this state needs all of the dollars it can get and all of the businesses it can get. And if people want to spend money on this crazy project, well, that's what America is all about. Go for it.

Quit yer bitchin'.
 
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UPSCat4080 said:
Pretty sure there were $0 of anyone's tax dollars given to the project. They were given tax breaks. Took away from what would have been extra $$$...sure. Gave them tax $$$...false.
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That was my understanding as well.

As a business venture, I always thought it made zero sense.
 
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I have a problem when the governor cuts funding for education in one of the worst states educationally in this country that is going to impact the smaller institutes and Appalachia, one of the most neglected areas of this country and then turns and gives tax break tons friggin ark. Outside of the first opening. There has been a near 200% decrease. And nice try saying it was snapped on a Sunday when people are in church.....but that argument doesn't hold water...


Both the mayor and the dude that built it have been interviewed and expressed serious concern over the sharp decline in ticket sales...
 
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BigBlueSean said:
I have a problem when the governor cuts funding for education in one of the worst states educationally in this country that is going to impact the smaller institutes and Appalachia, one of the most neglected areas of this country and then turns and gives tax break tons friggin ark. Outside of the first opening. There has been a near 200% decrease. And nice try saying it was snapped on a Sunday when people are in church.....but that argument doesn't hold water...


Both the mayor and the dude that built it have been interviewed and expressed serious concern over the sharp decline in ticket sales...
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I noticed you've already changed your argument from spending government tax dollars to giving a tax break. You do realize there's a big difference, right? At least your acknowledging you were of course wrong in your original post.
 
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BigBlueSean said:
I have a problem when the governor cuts funding for education in one of the worst states educationally in this country that is going to impact the smaller institutes and Appalachia, one of the most neglected areas of this country and then turns and gives tax break tons friggin ark. Outside of the first opening. There has been a near 200% decrease. And nice try saying it was snapped on a Sunday when people are in church.....but that argument doesn't hold water...
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Which governor cut your education?
 
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BigBlueSean said:
I have a problem when the governor cuts funding for education in one of the worst states educationally in this country that is going to impact the smaller institutes and Appalachia, one of the most neglected areas of this country and then turns and gives tax break tons friggin ark. Outside of the first opening. There has been a near 200% decrease. And nice try saying it was snapped on a Sunday when people are in church.....but that argument doesn't hold water...


Both the mayor and the dude that built it have been interviewed and expressed serious concern over the sharp decline in ticket sales...
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Do you even understand what youre arguing? If the ark didnt exist, the government would receive ZERO tax dollars from it. The more it sells, the more the government makes.

I do believe you should stick to drone forums. Obviously the kentucky aports forum is wayyyyy past your level of comprehension.
 
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BigBlueSean said:
I have a problem when the governor cuts funding for education in one of the worst states educationally in this country that is going to impact the smaller institutes and Appalachia, one of the most neglected areas of this country and then turns and gives tax break tons friggin ark. Outside of the first opening. There has been a near 200% decrease. And nice try saying it was snapped on a Sunday when people are in church.....but that argument doesn't hold water...


Both the mayor and the dude that built it have been interviewed and expressed serious concern over the sharp decline in ticket sales...
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What I'm saying is it was a dumb decision. All of it. Giving the tax break... It's not going to generate the revenue people thought. Just look at the creation museum in Cincy. The thing is this, data shows that people who actually believe in the ark story and who are extremely conservative don't exactly have the means to spend what admission tickets cost to go to the Ark. Whether it's designating tax payers money or giving a tax break on something that will never give you the return they expected. I mean they are talking having to get schools to take field trips there and charging a dollar a head to generate some sort of positive money flow.... Bottom line is its a mistake. A big one.

And Bevin did order a 5 percent cut to higher education funding. Now UK and UofL and probably WKU can handle that...but it's proven to be quite a massive hit to smaller universities which a lot of the poorer population attend to receive a higher education.

It's just really bad decision making all the way around. We elected a governor who isn't from here simply because he walked in here and said he was anti Obama. And look at what that's got us... Dude be on the verge of breaking federal laws leaving threatening voicemails....talk about a dumbass
 
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This reminds me of what's happened to the film industry in my current state of residence (Louisiana).

10 years ago = no film industry = $0 tax revenue

1-10 years ago = HUGE boom in production due to enormous tax breaks = $0 tax revenue


Then, the story became that the state couldn't afford to give tens of millions in tax cuts. They were all eliminated. Then basically the ENTIRE industry left, and now we're back to......$0 in tax revenue. [laughing]


Not arguing for or against tax breaks, but simply pointing out common sense that Sean doesn't comprehend. If you insist on taxing people to death, they LEAVE.
 
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BigBlueSean said:
What I'm saying is it was a dumb decision. All of it. Giving the tax break... It's not going to generate the revenue people thought. Just look at the creation museum in Cincy. The thing is this, data shows that people who actually believe in the ark story and who are extremely conservative don't exactly have the means to spend what admission tickets cost to go to the Ark. Whether it's designating tax payers money or giving a tax break on something that will never give you the return they expected. I mean they are talking having to get schools to take field trips there and charging a dollar a head to generate some sort of positive money flow.... Bottom line is its a mistake. A big one.

And Bevin did order a 5 percent cut to higher education funding. Now UK and UofL and probably WKU can handle that...but it's proven to be quite a massive hit to smaller universities which a lot of the poorer population attend to receive a higher education.

It's just really bad decision making all the way around. We elected a governor who isn't from here simply because he walked in here and said he was anti Obama. And look at what that's got us... Dude be on the verge of breaking federal laws leaving threatening voicemails....talk about a dumbass
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So your first argument was it was taking taxpayers' money, and that was proven wrong. So you shift to it was wrong to give a tax break. Why?

It is having a hard time generating revenue, so you cut it a tax break so that it can generate what revenue it can, and the state keep collecting what tax it can from it, instead of closing it's doors. Not hard to understand, really, but after others help shoot this down like an unwanted drone in their backyard, feel free to move the goalposts again.

Yeah, no one is going to say Bevin cutting education funding is a good thing. You might actually get people to agree with you there.
 
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You should of changed the thread title to ark park or drones, which would you rather pay taxes on? Drone to the bone!
 
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