our writers could learn a lesson from Auburn and Bama writer

[Coach34]

no wonder they can give 200K to a recruit- their writers protect their own- not do all they can to try and gain fame off their University's troubles

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If Chizik is to be blamed for Reese Dismukes' stupid actions, should he not then be credited for Philip Lutzenkirchen's determination to do things the right way? Should he get credit for Lutzenkirchen befriending a 10-year-old cancer victim who'd had part of her leg amputated?


If Chizik is to be blamed for players who can't abide by the rules and get sent packing, should he not then be credited for the clear-eyed maturity of Emory Blake?


If Chizik is to be blamed for positive drug tests that show up in the SEC's toughest drug testing program, should he not be credited for Jeff Whitaker, Greg Robinson, Jay Prosch and Pat Miller playing baseball with handicapped kids in the Miracle League in Opelika, for Whitaker volunteering at Storybook Farms?


If it's Chizik's fault that Mike Dyer suddenly wouldn't do what he was supposed to do and threw away his Auburn career is it then to Chizik's credit that Justin Garrett volunteered for Habitat For Humanity and worked in blistering heat to help build a house?

Should Chizik get credit for Cam Newton going to read to elementary school children virtually every Monday of his time at Auburn?


Should Chizik get credit for T'Sharvan Bell volunteering with the Pine Hills Literacy Program summer camp/Greater Lee County Boys and Girls Club, reading to students and assisting with homework?


The truth is Chizik, beyond leading by his own example, deserves credit for none of those things. The young men who gave of their time, worked hard and showed their compassion deserve credit. And by the same token, it is not on Chizik that Dismukes got drunk, that someone else flunked a drug test, that someone else broke the law. That's on them.

 

[passwordistaco]

That's such a creepy sentiment.

Yeah, let's all toe the party line, who cares about integrity or truth.

They get away with cheating because the league office is in Birmingham, and their top boosters are better politically connected. Being a bunch of mindless drones who just stick up for "The Party" doesn't have anything to do with anything, except maybe the intolerability of Bama's fanbase.

 

[Coach34]

Yeah, let's all toe the party line, who cares about integrity or truth.

They get away with cheating because the league office is in Birmingham, and their top boosters are better politically connected. Being a bunch of mindless drones who just stick up for "The Party" doesn't have anything to do with anything, except maybe the intolerability of Bama's fanbase.

When did the NCAA office move to Birmingham?

 

[FlabLoser]

When did the NCAA office move to Birmingham?

BOOM!!!

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

That would bring tears to a glass eye.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

THis isn't about journalistic integrity. It's about sports

Yeah, let's all toe the party line, who cares about integrity or truth.

They get away with cheating because the league office is in Birmingham, and their top boosters are better politically connected. Being a bunch of mindless drones who just stick up for "The Party" doesn't have anything to do with anything, except maybe the intolerability of Bama's fanbase.

Sports writers are NOT journalists...they're entertainers. They're paid to hype up the football team they're covering, so the fans will want to buy their paper. Do you really think anyone REALLY buys the Clarion-Ledger or Post-Dispatch for their hard-hitting expose's of the Obama Adminstration or misdeeds of Governor Phil Bryant?

 

[DerHntr]

Pumping sunshine to their overly homer fan base sells papers. Bad mouthing them does not. It is that simple. Our beat writers wouldn't do it if people didn't read it with so much interest. We don't stop buying papers from them or stop reading their websites (Wardlaw). I don't blame them one bit. Their business is bad enough without doing what you suggest, which is not writing what sells.

 

[Todd4State]

By the same token

Pumping sunshine to their overly homer fan base sells papers. Bad mouthing them does not. It is that simple. Our beat writers wouldn't do it if people didn't read it with so much interest. We don't stop buying papers from them or stop reading their websites (Wardlaw). I don't blame them one bit. Their business is bad enough without doing what you suggest, which is not writing what sells.

If they are looking for a smear campaign to sell papers, they shouldn't be pissed off at Dan for not opening up practice and giving them complete and all access to MSU football.

Dan is not their tit to suck off of. The things that they want to write about to sell papers could hurt Dan's career- and by the same token, I don't blame him for not granting them access.

And I disagree about what people "want to read". Paul Jones doesn't do that and people are subscribing to his site pretty well.

Contrary to poplar belief among sixpack- you can cover MSU sports and do a good job of it without trying to find skeletons in the closet and also without pumping sunshine. Paul could teach Locke, Marcello, Rosebowl and Wardlaw some lessons. Constantly asking Dan about injuries is not the way to do it.

 

[DerHntr]

I don't disagree about Dan's stance with them and didn't say I did. When they start firing folks or websites fail because readership falters drastically get back to me. Until then, they are being rewarded for their actions.

 

[passwordistaco]

The SEC office is in Birmingham.

And before you reply with some smartassed retort about how it's the NCAA and not the SEC that gives penalties, you should think for a split-second about how the SEC office screws MSU and props up the Bammer universities as frequently as humanly possible.

God, you really bring nothing positive to the table.

 

[passwordistaco]

If journalism is working the way it should, that's exactly why you should be buying a Clarion Ledger. It's a huge bummer that Gannett gutted Mississippi's paper for a quick buck.

I realize that you're a complete moron, but the current incarnation of the Clarion Ledger is not an adequate example of "quality journalism."

Despite Fox News and MSNBC and CNN trying to convince us otherwise, journalism isn't supposed to be entertainment. It's supposed to be journalism.

Rivals/Spirit/etc? Pump sunshine up everyone's *** all they want, but I'd rather not buy propaganda packaged as news. It's what separates the intelligent from the Tide fans of the universe.

 

[Silky Johnson.sixpack]

100% agree with Todd. Paul is good but he is not above calling someone out or speaking his mind. He does it with class unlike those dipshits Locke and Marcello.

 

[Todd4State]

That brings up another point

I don't disagree about Dan's stance with them and didn't say I did. When they start firing folks or websites fail because readership falters drastically get back to me. Until then, they are being rewarded for their actions.

Our athletic dept. can and should do a better job of controlling the media. If someone like Locke is obviously trying to stir things up-cut that paper off completely.

 

[DerHntr]

Can't disagree with that at all. I am very happy that the AD has given Dan a long leash when dealing with the media thus far. If they were to also more actively control the media, it would be even better.

 

[Resolved]

As someone said on the old Sixpack, "Brad Locke has a face that's begging to be punched". Look, I'm not asking for sunshine OR negative ****. Just give me the facts and I'll figure it out for myself...after checking Sixpack and talking to some half-way connected S'ville friends.

 

[CEO2044]

If they are looking for a smear campaign to sell papers, they shouldn't be pissed off at Dan for not opening up practice and giving them complete and all access to MSU football.

Dan is not their tit to suck off of. The things that they want to write about to sell papers could hurt Dan's career- and by the same token, I don't blame him for not granting them access.

And I disagree about what people "want to read". Paul Jones doesn't do that and people are subscribing to his site pretty well.

Contrary to poplar belief among sixpack- you can cover MSU sports and do a good job of it without trying to find skeletons in the closet and also without pumping sunshine. Paul could teach Locke, Marcello, Rosebowl and Wardlaw some lessons. Constantly asking Dan about injuries is not the way to do it.

Exactly. The only one I still read is Marcello, and I'm getting close to stopping that, too. I realize you need to make print sometimes, and it's hard during the dead season. But the crappy questions to the coaches drive me insane. There's a way to approach someone, yet it's become okay somehow to ask certain questions that you know shouldn't be asked.

Honestly, we don't deserve to know every single little thing going on within the program. There are things you may know that you should keep quiet, and then there are times when that stuff needs to be aired. Knowing the difference is the key, but nobody seems to understand where that line is.

It's not very hard to do the job without putting the extra junk in there. And, believe it or not, some of the coaches would recognize who goes that extra mile and will probably end up sharing more with them than others.

 

[J-Dawg]

If they are looking for a smear campaign to sell papers, they shouldn't be pissed off at Dan for not opening up practice and giving them complete and all access to MSU football.

Dan is not their tit to suck off of. The things that they want to write about to sell papers could hurt Dan's career- and by the same token, I don't blame him for not granting them access.

And I disagree about what people "want to read". Paul Jones doesn't do that and people are subscribing to his site pretty well.

Contrary to poplar belief among sixpack- you can cover MSU sports and do a good job of it without trying to find skeletons in the closet and also without pumping sunshine. Paul could teach Locke, Marcello, Rosebowl and Wardlaw some lessons. Constantly asking Dan about injuries is not the way to do it.

+1...... Wish Paul Jones had more published writing outside of recruiting articles and the like. He'd make a great beat reporter.