Overpayment

[KampusKat]

I think Pope is scared of repeating last year's response about overpaying with the ~$21M NIL.

I don't think the issue should be us underbidding players. We're still a premier program. We should be able to bump up offers to land players because we have the Name and Money to do so.

The problem is overpaying for scrub players. We knew JQ was broken, and Lowe was definitely overpaid. But even guys like BG and Mo got too much, even with their full seasons.

With not many dudes left in the portal, I say go give Momcilovic or Tounde a bag as they seem worth it.

 

[loublue22_rivals308424]

I think you're giving him too much credit

 

[FilmNerd]

I think Pope is scared of repeating last year's response about overpaying with the ~$21M NIL.

I don't think the issue should be us underbidding players. We're still a premier program. We should be able to bump up offers to land players because we have the Name and Money to do so.

The problem is overpaying for scrub players. We knew JQ was broken, and Lowe was definitely overpaid. But even guys like BG and Mo got too much, even with their full seasons.

With not many dudes left in the portal, I say go give Momcilovic or Tounde a bag as they seem worth it.

None of this has ever been discussed before. Thanks

 

[YankeeCpt_rivals378522]

Everytime I look at this, I feel like throwing up...
Recruiting should have been a pre-req for the job....

 

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

Gonna be about 1000 5th year seniors in the portal in a few weeks, and many schools have already used up their NIL budget

 

[NociHTTP]

Probably scared enough that he hopes they have the money for the buyout.

 

[Catphright23]

Everyone knew jq wouldn't play all year? Everyone knew lowe would hurt his shoulder too, y'all miss cleo clones. What's the lottery numbers?

 

[Goingfor9]

I think Pope is scared of repeating last year's response about overpaying with the ~$21M NIL.

I don't think the issue should be us underbidding players. We're still a premier program. We should be able to bump up offers to land players because we have the Name and Money to do so.

The problem is overpaying for scrub players. We knew JQ was broken, and Lowe was definitely overpaid. But even guys like BG and Mo got too much, even with their full seasons.

With not many dudes left in the portal, I say go give Momcilovic or Tounde a bag as they seem worth it.

Well, that’s impossible because the money is not there there’s no 21 million there for recruiting. He he doesn’t have it. He got a good back court. He’s hoping Stokes will will commit and he’s hoping to get Moreno back that’s it. He does not have the money he had last year to throw around it average players role players.

 

[TFCat11]

He can “overpay” as much as he needs too, it’s “overpaying” for role players that’s the problem.

 

[anot]

Everyone knew jq wouldn't play all year? Everyone knew lowe would hurt his shoulder too, y'all miss cleo clones. What's the lottery numbers?

If the lottery was as predictable as the JQ situation I'd be rich

 

[moses1uk]

I think Pope is scared of repeating last year's response about overpaying with the ~$21M NIL.

I don't think the issue should be us underbidding players. We're still a premier program. We should be able to bump up offers to land players because we have the Name and Money to do so.

The problem is overpaying for scrub players. We knew JQ was broken, and Lowe was definitely overpaid. But even guys like BG and Mo got too much, even with their full seasons.

With not many dudes left in the portal, I say go give Momcilovic or Tounde a bag as they seem worth it.

 

[Buckwheat Otay Is Dead]

I think Pope is scared of repeating last year's response about overpaying with the ~$21M NIL.

I don't think the issue should be us underbidding players. We're still a premier program. We should be able to bump up offers to land players because we have the Name and Money to do so.

The problem is overpaying for scrub players. We knew JQ was broken, and Lowe was definitely overpaid. But even guys like BG and Mo got too much, even with their full seasons.

With not many dudes left in the portal, I say go give Momcilovic or Tounde a bag as they seem worth it.

Zero wrong. Don’t waste money in the portal when you have free agent euros.

 

[Cliffhanger82]

Everytime I look at this, I feel like throwing up...
Recruiting should have been a pre-req for the job....

Yep - agree - but there is some realism in that before NIL recruiting at BYU had its difficulties.

 

[Dr.LutherSan]

Everyone knew jq wouldn't play all year? Everyone knew lowe would hurt his shoulder too, y'all miss cleo clones. What's the lottery numbers?

Dude should have got multiple point guards. Plus, that team didn't fit the way he likes to play. Both of those issues fall squarely on him.

It reminds me of a sequence from Dumb and Dumber:

 

[Wildcat_in_DC]

I think Pope is scared of repeating last year's response about overpaying with the ~$21M NIL.

I don't think the issue should be us underbidding players. We're still a premier program. We should be able to bump up offers to land players because we have the Name and Money to do so.

The problem is overpaying for scrub players. We knew JQ was broken, and Lowe was definitely overpaid. But even guys like BG and Mo got too much, even with their full seasons.

With not many dudes left in the portal, I say go give Momcilovic or Tounde a bag as they seem worth it.

i actually find this to be true. pope's history/pattern is over correcting....

• year 1 didnt have enough athletes/defense, swings the other way with guys like mo d, aberdeen, JQ
• cant get guys to the pros, goes all in on stokes no matter what
• cant relate to high school recruits, bring in mo williams and (jamal crawford potentially)

so after getting cooked all year by the media for spending 22M on a roster.....he hires a "GM" and they play hardball with a number of portal guys because that is what the market says their value is. not hard to believe.

i always laugh at the need for a GM. we are in an industry that has 1 year contracts with no salary cap. it doesnt matter what the "market" says your value is. there a 360 D1 teams and if 1 over pays for your guy standing by your chart means you will be left with a roster spot that needs to be filled and few guys capable of filling it. you need a financier. identify the guys you want and write the check. the market is 65% higher for players than last year. no GM would know to predict and budget for that.

 

[PastorofMuppets82]

i actually find this to be true. pope's history/pattern is over correcting....

• year 1 didnt have enough athletes/defense, swings the other way with guys like mo d, aberdeen, JQ
• cant get guys to the pros, goes all in on stokes no matter what
• cant relate to high school recruits, bring in mo williams and (jamal crawford potentially)

so after getting cooked all year by the media for spending 22M on a roster.....he hires a "GM" and they play hardball with a number of portal guys because that is what the market says their value is. not hard to believe.

i always laugh at the need for a GM. we are in an industry that has 1 year contracts with no salary cap. it doesnt matter what the "market" says your value is. there a 360 D1 teams and if 1 over pays for your guy standing by your chart means you will be left with a roster spot that needs to be filled and few guys capable of filling it. you need a financier. identify the guys you want and write the check. the market is 65% higher for players than last year. no GM would know to predict and budget for that.

Rachel Baker, the GM at Duke laughs at this comment.

 

[Catphright23]

Dude should have got multiple point guards. Plus, that team didn't fit the way he likes to play. Both of those issues fall squarely on him.

It reminds me of a sequence from Dumb and Dumber:

He did have acaden lewis. He had Jasper who played pg and sg in hs. He also had Aberdeen. They all found out the other two were just sg. Jasper was bad. Don't think he wants to hurt people's feelings. Should have played Jasper and bg less. Probably would have won more.

 

[rick64]

As a fan I think I'd be OK overpaying a bit for top tier players. Of course it's not my money.

 

[kywildcat1021979]

As a fan I think I'd be OK overpaying a bit for top tier players. Of course it's not my money.

Top players I could see but the level of players we are getting NO WAY.

 

[FanOfConstantSorrows]

If Pope overpaid Donnie Freeman and he broke his foot you would have ripped him a new one for spending on a player with a history of injuries

You can’t have your cake (overpaying or not upping the money) and eat it too (complain if they don’t work out or not committing)

 

[Wildcat_in_DC]

If Pope overpaid Donnie Freeman and he broke his foot you would have ripped him a new one for spending on a player with a history of injuries

You can’t have your cake (overpaying or not upping the money) and eat it too (complain if the don’t work out or not committing)

funny thing about freeman is that initially no one wanted him because he couldnt shoot and was injured. then we he goes somewhere else, the same folks are pissed we didnt offer him the moon.

 

[BlueBloodKyFan72]

He did have acaden lewis. He had Jasper who played pg and sg in hs. He also had Aberdeen. They all found out the other two were just sg. Jasper was bad. Don't think he wants to hurt people's feelings. Should have played Jasper and bg less. Probably would have won more.

He wised up on Noah less minutes and agree less JJ and BG minutes would’ve worked out better. Those 3 on the court together were at a rough -117% efficiency rating

 

[crazywill]

I think Pope is scared of repeating last year's response about overpaying with the ~$21M NIL.

I don't think the issue should be us underbidding players. We're still a premier program. We should be able to bump up offers to land players because we have the Name and Money to do so.

The problem is overpaying for scrub players. We knew JQ was broken, and Lowe was definitely overpaid. But even guys like BG and Mo got too much, even with their full seasons.

With not many dudes left in the portal, I say go give Momcilovic or Tounde a bag as they seem worth it.

No offense to you as I am with a doubt sure you like me Love Kentucky, BUT:

We're still a premier program. Might phrased that we were at one time we were a premier program. Not so much today as we didn't adopt and adapt quickly enough. Still time [not next year}, but with the Right Coach who understands the dynamics of what's happening Kentucky can turn on a dime. Well not a Dime/ Millions of Dollars. Sad it's out of hand!

 

[KampusKat]

If Pope overpaid Donnie Freeman and he broke his foot you would have ripped him a new one for spending on a player with a history of injuries

You can’t have your cake (overpaying or not upping the money) and eat it too (complain if they don’t work out or not committing)

Never blamed Kam or Jaland Lowe for injuries. But paying JQ and Freeman would be a mistake as they are obv injury prone

 

[KYAnywhereEverywhere]

He wised up on Noah less minutes and agree less JJ and BG minutes would’ve worked out better. Those 3 on the court together were at a rough -117% efficiency rating

I think Noah will be better, at least some better this year. I think last year's locker room was a mess and Noah definitely fell off in the chaos. Admittedly, that's all speculation.

 

[BookofMormon]

I think Pope is scared of repeating last year's response about overpaying with the ~$21M NIL.

I don't think the issue should be us underbidding players. We're still a premier program. We should be able to bump up offers to land players because we have the Name and Money to do so.

The problem is overpaying for scrub players. We knew JQ was broken, and Lowe was definitely overpaid. But even guys like BG and Mo got too much, even with their full seasons.

With not many dudes left in the portal, I say go give Momcilovic or Tounde a bag as they seem worth it.

Spoken like a true glutton who knows nothing. If our brand meant something, would not have to pay above market.

It would be dangerous giving anyone the wheel here - would throw money around, furthering the image. Come up with a real strategy.

 

[KampusKat]

Spoken like a true glutton who knows nothing. If our brand meant something, would not have to pay above market.

It would be dangerous giving anyone the wheel here - would throw money around, furthering the image. Come up with a real strategy.

In the era of NIL, do you honestly think our name alone will carry a recruit here? its not the 90s pal. You're gonna have to pay up.

 

[KampusKat]

Zero wrong. Don’t waste money in the portal when you have free agent euros.

where are they?

 

[BookofMormon]

In the era of NIL, do you honestly think our name alone will carry a recruit here? its not the 90s pal. You're gonna have to pay up.

I think you have to get kids here for the right reason, and it shouldn't be about paying that much more than the next guy. You fail to understand locker room psychology amongst 20 year olds.

where are they?

In Europe

 

[KampusKat]

good luck getting a guy without paying up

 

[Madhuvan]

Everyone knew jq wouldn't play all year? Everyone knew lowe would hurt his shoulder too, y'all miss cleo clones. What's the lottery numbers?

I’ll give you Lowe but JQ was as predictable as the sunrise.

 

[BlueBloodKyFan72]

I think Noah will be better, at least some better this year. I think last year's locker room was a mess and Noah definitely fell off in the chaos. Admittedly, that's all speculation.

I hope he is

 

[KampusKat]

I think you have to get kids here for the right reason, and it shouldn't be about paying that much more than the next guy. You fail to understand locker room psychology amongst 20 year olds.

In Europe

Explain the locker room psychology then

 

[BookofMormon]

Explain the locker room psychology then

You want 5 players pulling together for a common cause, proud of their jersey, connected to a coach/culture, selfless for one another.

Basically, you want kids unlike what Pope had last year.