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[Coach34]

why are you not here telling us about how Bost and Ravern declaring for the NBA is all part of Rick's plan and he is on top of the situation? What did he tell you when you called him this morning?

You're slipping. I fully expected a long diatribe as to how Ravern is leaving because he wasnt going to start next year anyway. Addition by subtraction and all those great theories of yours

 

[OMlawdog]

<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; ">I would think he would say something along these lines:</div><div style="min-width: 0px; max-width: 99%; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Every person on that roster signs to play basketball for us. But as we all know, everyone is not created equal and some end up playing more than others. Some never mature. Some get injured. There is never going to be a time in which your entire team is going to be happy. Abd basketball people are the absolute worst to deal with.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">Stans messed up by not running off these AAU guys that didnt want to get with the program. We need a good house cleaning, and Stans is seeing what happens when you leave trash laying around- it stinks up the whole house- even the new furniture.<br style="min-width: 0px; "><br style="min-width: 0px; ">All this stuff has made me even more sure that Stans is the right man for the job. He just made a mistake in trying to be respectful to AAU coaches and keep some players around that he shouldnt have. When you are building a program and changing the whole mentality of it- you always go through stuff like this. Stans will weather it and we will be glad he did.</div><div>
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[tenureplan]

Does it really even matter until May 8th?

 

[Coach34]

it would be the most intelligent thing he had said in awhile- except that everybody knows baseball people are the worst to deal with and it is Stansbury's own trash he is keeping around.

I wish Stansbury would change the mentality of his program....

 

[OMlawdog]

If they weren't released from a scholarship. <div>
</div><div>Also, I will put Scotty Hopson's mom, against any baseball parent you want. </div><div>
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[Coach34]

baseball players dont have the same rules...any random baseball team will have 5 Miss Hopson's- instead of holding the son for ransome, it's a constant bitchfest every time the coach does something the parents dont agree with.

Typical example- it's been mentioned on the board and was again yesterday- "if that was my son that he left in there for 140 pitches, he and I would be having words".....obviously he wasnt laboring during the game or showing any signs of decreased velocity or he would have been pulled earlier. The coaches dont want him hurt either, and I can assure you they were watching the count closely once he got over a 100.

Can you imagine a mother going to a coach because her son ended up playing all 40 minutes plus both OT's without coming out?
Nobody said **** about Pork Chop Womack playing for us with a broken leg the last few games of his career
Wonder if AD's momma would have come down to the sidelines to yell at Mullen once AD got to 30 carries in a ballgame?


How many times have you heard baseball parents ***** about a catcher having to catch a doubleheader?

It's just different in baseball

 

[Dawgbreeze]

But to give you some more dribble to help you find more ways to bash Stans, this is my interpretation. If a kid wants to test the waters for the NBA, which most think they will play in one day, then let them do it. Are you trying to say that if a kid signed with MSU he would be told you can't dare do that? How dumb would that be for any coach to think that? Kids all think they can play in the NBA which is dumb on their part because most won't even get a chance, but under your hypothetical rhetoric which usually is just another way to slam a coach since you think you are so brilliant as a former second rate league coach, there is no plan as far as I know from Rick or any other coach. Bost and Ravern think they will get some good advice as to what they need to do to improve their draft status. If they get drafted, then I would assume Rick would wish them well, just like he did when Jonathan Bender got 10 million to sign. You tend to always blame the coach for anything that happens and anybody who has ever played or coached the game knows that sometimes it has nothing to do with coaching and might simply be due to discipline or something else which most of these kids have never had before they ever got to campus. I haven't seen Charles Rhodes bad mouth Stansbury and he was disciplined, realized his errors and became better for it. As far as I know, you have never had to recruit anybody or deal with the issues coaches deal with today. Why should anybody even care what your opinion is because you are much like Dick Vitale, a loudmouth on a message board instead of television, and couldn't cut it as a coach. Stansbury will do okay and I can make book on one issue, no matter how successful he is, you will find a way to ***** and say he should have done better. Now, go sell a condom, or use it on one of your clones , I could care less.

 

[OMlawdog]

First off your comparison to a pitcher throwing 140 pitches and a player playing 40 minutes and double OT is flawed.<div>
</div><div>You don't have a threat of injury by playing for a very long time if you are well hydrated. Throwing 140 pitches has been shown to lead to arm problems. Playing Double overtime games has not been shown to lead to injuries, sure you may be really tired the next day, but no one has ever linked playing in an overtime game will lead to injuries. So that is just kind of silly.</div><div>
</div><div>College coaches don't care if a player's arm falls off once they leave campus. They are not rooting for it to happen, but the way Bertman, Bianco and looks like Cohen treats pitchers certainly doesn't take the pitcher's health into consideration. </div><div>
</div><div>Back to the original point, there is a big difference between a Mom bitching to other parents in the stands and it being annoying, and a mom and/or son threatening to tell the NCAA that you broke NCAA rules that will cost you your job and you will become a pariah in the sport. I have a feeling any rational person would prefer the bitchfest to an NCAA inquiry.</div><div>
</div><div>So to summarize Threat of NCAA inquiry > Moms bitching about batting order</div>

 

[Coach34]

the 30 carries example still applies...it is shown that RB's have shorter careers and breakdown after seasons of high carries (I believe the 400 benchmark is used in the NFL)
you still never see parents going to yell at the coach about their baby approaching 30 carries in a game

As far as the mom telling the NCAA, thats the way the game is played. I'd much rather deal with it once and be done with it, than have to deal with the same tedious ******** from parents day in and day out.

I'd rather deal with football or basketball parents 100 times more than baseball parents. ****, I gave my paddle to a football mom to use on her son and held the door for her so he couldnt get out once. In baseball, I had to meet with a player and his parents because he got frustrated and couldnt perform when yelled at. Different worlds

 

[Coach34]

Jesus

 

[Todd4State]

I think about 98% of the baseball programs are on the up and up because most school don't have boosters that can match what MLB can offer to a player. There is no reason for a player to turn in a baseball program into the NCAA unless they just want to cause a nuisance for the school that likely will have no merit. In football, and now baskletball, you pretty much have to go to college to go to the pros.

Remember when someone turned MSU in for practicing too much under Polk? I knew that there was no way in hell we were getting into trouble for that. All we had to do is pop in a video of us playing baseball and it would be pretty obvious that wasn't the case.

 

[Todd4State]

from having been around them. The reason I didn't coach high school baseball was because of the parents. I remember my Dad and I had a long talk about it- and he put it best- He said, "everyone's an All-Star even if they're throwing 60 MPH. And then they question why their son isn't pitching when you've got a guy that can throw 85 and has a good curveball and their son only throws 60." My Dad told me straight up- he said " I know you- and you're going to play the best people. But you're going to have people bitching about every little thing that don't know baseball, and they'll come after you and your job and it doesn't matter what you have done, you piss off the wrong person, you are gone. In their eyes, you're the one that killed their sons MLB career and their chance at a scholarship. It's never the fact that they simply weren't good enough."

And you watch- every year, there is a high school baseball coach that gets fired because he pissed off some parent. Last year it was Stacy Hester.

It's probably worse here in Mississippi because we have the good ol' boy system in place.

By the same token, I know a woman at work whose son played for Madison Central. Her son was a back-up LB and the special teams ace. Of course, he didn't play a whole lot- he played some, and never once did I ever hear her say anything bad about anyone on the coaching staff. She cheered for her son, and was obviously proud of him, but she never went overboard with it.

You go to a Madison Central baseball game, and the parents are sitting there like hawks. It is different.

 

[BriantheDawg]

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[Coach34]

my two best seasons as a coach in baseball were the most miserable of my coaching career.

Everybody's constant bitching about who should win team and conference MVP
Each family wanting their son to be the star of that game's write-up about our team.
Parent conferences over our in-season strength program (which was almost a carbon-copy of LSU's) and how it was hurting Little Johnny's performance on gameday (nevermind that Little Johnny made all-state at the end of the season).
How come we were wearing gold jerseys at home instead of the purple that they wore last year?
Why didnt we bunt more? (we set the school record for HR's in a season with 47)
Coach yells too much, this isnt football. It makes Little Henry nervous and thats why he is batting .207

and numerous other ridiculous ****....blah blah blah

You just dont have to deal with that **** in football and basketball...It made me a little racist I guess- give me a bunch of black parents anyday over a group of white parents. It's much better coaching at an Aberdeen or Charleston than it is a Madison or Brandon

 

[Todd4State]

Parent conferences over our in-season strength program (which was almost a carbon-copy of LSU's) and how it was hurting Little Johnny's performance on gameday (nevermind that Little Johnny made all-state at the end of the season).

if you gave my kid steroids to.

 

[Coach34]

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[markymark.sixpack]

MiniLee - Supported
Tyler Russel - Bashes
Cohen - Supports
Stansbury - Bashes
Anthony Dixon - Bashes

Says a lot, huh?

I think the reason he bashes our most successful players/coaches (i know russel is not successful yet, but he hasn't failed either) is due to jealousy since they represent something he never was (successful).

 

[Chesusdog]

I'm not even sure he believes the **** he spouts. He's just an ******* and he does his job and he does his job very well.

 

[mstateglfr]

Parent conferences over our in-season strength program (<font size="5">which was almost a carbon-copy of LSU's</font>) and how it was hurting Little Johnny's performance on gameday (nevermind that Little Johnny made all-state at the end of the season).

I dont think anyone is surprised by this.