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Anyone know about Palatine & how they match up with STC? Two 11-0 teams so I'd imagine you'd have to give the edge to the home team. Anyone have any insight?
 

Goomlah

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Palatine's QB and top RB are out injured so SCE has a decent chance,...
 

kpjasion

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Palatine's QB and top RB are out injured so SCE has a decent chance,...

Our All-State QB is out , but our RB returned this week and had a good game. DJ Angelaccio, (QB #2) did throw for 178 yds and ran for another 49 against Lyons, so Palatine's OK there. The offense was not as potent as in the past, but Lyons defense was reeaallyy good and hard hitting. That said, PHS they did move the ball when needed.

As for SCE, it's an unknown because of the triple option they run...Palatine hasn't seen it this year. That said, their defense has stepped it up to another level in the playoffs and has been really good. Palatine's head coach, Rick Splitt, is also the DC, and he did spend some time way back at Cary-Grove, so he may have experience with defending it or have connections over there that he can ask about how to defend it...it'll all depend on how well they execute.

My gut?

So maxpreps has Palatine's strength of schedule at 31.2 while SCE's is 19.6. I watched the SCE-New Trier game and NT easily could have won if they'd not let SCE strip the ball twice inside the 3 yard line. SCE beat NT 17-10, Palatine beat NT 41-21(but with Oles at QB). SCE put up tons of points until last week at New Trier and Palatine put up tons of points until this past week at Lyons.

My gut is that SCEs drop in points was due to a stronger opponent, while Palatine's was due to very strong Lyons defense. I think Palatine's defense is stronger than NT's and will keep SCE's points down, while Palatine's will be steady/go up as QB#2 gets more comfortable and they face a defense similar in intensity and talent to what Lyons was. Given that, I think Palatine wins something like a 24-14 game.
 
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all4theillini

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Our All-State QB is out , but our RB returned this week and had a good game. DJ Angelaccio, (QB #2) did throw for 178 yds and ran for another 49 against Lyons, so Palatine's OK there. The offense was not as potent as in the past, but Lyons defense was reeaallyy good and hard hitting. That said, PHS they did move the ball when needed.

As for SCE, it's an unknown because of the triple option they run...Palatine hasn't seen it this year. That said, their defense has stepped it up to another level in the playoffs and has been really good. Palatine's head coach, Rick Splitt, is also the DC, and he did spend some time way back at Cary-Grove, so he may have experience with defending it or have connections over there that he can ask about how to defend it...it'll all depend on how well they execute.

My gut?

So maxpreps has Palatine's strength of schedule at 31.2 while SCE's is 19.6. I watched the SCE-New Trier game and NT easily could have won if they'd not let SCE strip the ball twice inside the 3 yard line. SCE beat NT 17-10, Palatine beat NT 41-21(but with Oles at QB). SCE put up tons of points until last week at New Trier and Palatine put up tons of points until this past week at Lyons.

My gut is that SCEs drop in points was due to a stronger opponent, while Palatine's was due to very strong Lyons defense. I think Palatine's defense is stronger than NT's and will keep SCE's points down, while Palatine's will be steady/go up as QB#2 gets more comfortable and they face a defense similar in intensity and talent to what Lyons was. Given that, I think Palatine wins something like a 24-14 game.
Thanks for this. Much appreciated. Looking forward to a great game.
 

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I think Palatine wins easy. New Trier could've and probably should've won last week. Turnovers killed them inside red zone. SCE will not score a lot against the speedy palatine D. The SCE option will keep the score low, but palatine is just too good for this team even with the injuries. They are also much bigger.
 
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If SCE plays like they did against New Trier, especially putting it on the ground 3 times, they get rolled.

If they play like they did against Lockport or Batavia, they have a good chance. Their D is incredibly underrated and will be the fastest palatine has seen all year.

I see this as a 10-7 game which will likely come down to a big special teams play or an inopportune turnover.
 
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all4theillini

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Pal 35 SCE14
I'm not saying Palatine won't win but STCE has only given up 20+ points once all season (STCN: 21) so I'd be surprised if Palatine scored that many. As well, another poster alluded to Palatine being "too big" for East. East was smaller upfront then both Batavia & STCN (I have no idea about New Trier or Lockport) and came away with the W.

It'll come down to turnovers as do most games. STCE plays mistake free? It'll be a close, low scoring game. If they put in on the ground a bunch it'll be a long day because for all the things they do well, throwing it isn't high on their list.
 

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Thanks. The name doesn't ring a bell, I think my son was a Soph in 97 at CoM.
 

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I'm not saying Palatine won't win but STCE has only given up 20+ points once all season (STCN: 21) so I'd be surprised if Palatine scored that many. As well, another poster alluded to Palatine being "too big" for East. East was smaller upfront then both Batavia & STCN (I have no idea about New Trier or Lockport) and came away with the W.

It'll come down to turnovers as do most games. STCE plays mistake free? It'll be a close, low scoring game. If they put in on the ground a bunch it'll be a long day because for all the things they do well, throwing it isn't high on their list.

Alot of games come down to that at this point. Palatine picked the hyped Lyons QB three times, with the final one being the deciding play in OT. On the season, Palatine is +19 in TO differential. Additionally, they're pretty good at holding onto the ball and I'm sure they saw how NT lost two potential TDs by being stripped.

The common opponent is New Trier. Palatine was +4 in TO's in that game and had a 34-7 lead at the end of 3rd quarter, and a 41-14 lead when the starters were pulled. It wound up 41-21, but Zach Oles was at QB back then...so I don't know if you can count that as a fair comparison right now.
 
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I'm not saying Palatine won't win but STCE has only given up 20+ points once all season (STCN: 21) so I'd be surprised if Palatine scored that many. As well, another poster alluded to Palatine being "too big" for East. East was smaller upfront then both Batavia & STCN (I have no idea about New Trier or Lockport) and came away with the W.

It'll come down to turnovers as do most games. STCE plays mistake free? It'll be a close, low scoring game. If they put in on the ground a bunch it'll be a long day because for all the things they do well, throwing it isn't high on their list.


I think this is fair. STCE's back 7 is as good as any in the state. For LBs, Abe Swanson is the best player nobody know about. They are very interchangeable and will come with lots of blitzing and bluffing schemes. With a less experience palatine QB, I expect them to bring the house early.
 

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SCE has been an underrated team all year in the UE conference, even after winning the conference. They play good sound fundamental football, nothing sexy but they get the job done. If they play that way this week I say it's a very tight game and goes either way. Palatine is and should be the favorite in this game. I'm calling 14-7 Palatine.
 

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Defend the TO with a 30 front and a four-high hat
Zero technique to keep them from trying to run mid-line
Widen 9's to see if they break the DW formation
Get your 4's underneath the dive
Key non pre-snap motion WB - if he folds inside look for inside-counter or an attempt at mid-line. If he arc or load releases look for triple-option and pass - specifically wheel route
Get in backside pulling T & G's hips for inside-counter and chase down from behind
Force player needs to attack the QB and deliver punishing contact
FS runs the alley like a freight-train and delivers punishing contact
Throw in a stunt or two to keep QB from identifying dive read vs. #2 which blows up the TO's rhythm
Don't think, react!
 
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I'm not saying Palatine won't win but STCE has only given up 20+ points once all season (STCN: 21) so I'd be surprised if Palatine scored that many. As well, another poster alluded to Palatine being "too big" for East. East was smaller upfront then both Batavia & STCN (I have no idea about New Trier or Lockport) and came away with the W.

It'll come down to turnovers as do most games. STCE plays mistake free? It'll be a close, low scoring game. If they put in on the ground a bunch it'll be a long day because for all the things they do well, throwing it isn't high on their list.

If there is one thing I know about Palatine it is they play great defense. Disciplined defense. I guess my thinking is if you play disciplined D you can stop the option.
 
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Defend the TO with a 30 front and a four-high hat
Zero technique to keep them from trying to run mid-line
Widen 9's to see if they break the DW formation
Get your 4's underneath the dive
Key non pre-snap motion WB - if he folds inside look for inside-counter or an attempt at mid-line. If he arc or load releases look for triple-option and pass - specifically wheel route
Get in backside pulling T & G's hips for inside-counter and chase down from behind
Force player needs to attack the QB and deliver punishing contact
FS runs the alley like a freight-train and delivers punishing contact
Throw in a stunt or two to keep QB from identifying dive read vs. #2 which blows up the TO's rhythm
Don't think, react!


The question is can you put that in in one week. The hardests is the last line. Too much thinking on defense kills you
 

Wags14

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Rick Splitt can!
The problem is that coaches can have everybody ready but it still takes discipline in 16-18 year old kids to execute. I have seen teams very well prepared to stop teams like Carmel and CG but 1 missed assignment can cost you 6 in a hurry. I know that goes for any defense but this is more mental to stop. Hoping to see a good game but it sounds like most people don't give St Charles a chance.