Parched Earth soaks up water

[TarHeelEer]

Parched Earth soaks up water

I love the last line.

"But we'll need a much longer data record to fully understand the underlying cause of the patterns and whether they will persist."

So they finally admit what I told you years ago. Too many variables to be able to model this efficiently at this time. Why did it take them so long to figure this out?

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

Parched Earth soaks up water

I love the last line.

"But we'll need a much longer data record to fully understand the underlying cause of the patterns and whether they will persist."

So they finally admit what I told you years ago. Too many variables to be able to model this efficiently at this time. Why did it take them so long to figure this out?

I find it somewhat entertaining to hear the science deniers chime in about man-influenced climate change the day after the announcement that an significant portion of Einstein's Theory of Relativity was proven correct 100 years after he proposed it.

 

[TarHeelEer]

I find it somewhat entertaining to hear the science deniers chime in about man-influenced climate change the day after the announcement that an significant portion of Einstein's Theory of Relativity was proven correct 100 years after he proposed it.

I never deny the science. I deny political storytelling attempting to gain on half truths.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

I never deny the science. I deny political storytelling attempting to gain on half truths.

You never deny the science? You have stated that you believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old and that man and TRex co-existed. Your "science" is a fantasy.

 

[rog1187]

I find it somewhat entertaining to hear the science deniers chime in about man-influenced climate change the day after the announcement that an significant portion of Einstein's Theory of Relativity was proven correct 100 years after he proposed it.

And for many years scientists long ago thought Earth was flat...how'd that work out?

 

[bamaEER]

And for many years scientists long ago thought Earth was flat...how'd that work out?

Scientists proved that wrong. That's how hypetheses work.

 

[Keyser76]

We used to think the earth was flat so maybe we will be right this time? Or how bout we just trust the science?

 

[rog1187]

Scientists proved that wrong. That's how hypetheses work.

Yep and in 1989 a “senior environmental official at the United Nations, Noel Brown, says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000.” Get your floaties before they're all gone.

 

[mneilmont]

Hmmm? Southern WV has it the other way. We have forest fires due to climate change. Root systems are burned and the surface soil becomes parched.

Then, in the Spring, comes the rains that causes the parched surface to "run off" because it cannot retain moisture and the flowing water washes off the soil that causes mud slides and floods creek and river beds and flows thru the communities downstream.

Great damage to the lower lying communities because of all the fires caused by climate change kills the root system that normally slows the flow of water and allow it to soak into the earth. Mountain Top Removal is a particular problem because the soil becomes so dry and dusty that rain water gets no resistance as it flows to lower levels and causes sides of mountains to just slide off to the lower levels. Climate change causes great devastation, and Mountain Top Removal just compounds the problems for those unfortunate people of Appalachian extraction. Just imagine the health problems caused by the Spring floods that is all preventable by man.

 

[KTeer]

The gravitational wave experiment confirmed Einstein's Gravity theory. The parched earth proposition has been created to explain the deficiencies in a model predicting sea level rise and biblical floods.
NASA satellites have not measures any change in absolute sea level in over a decade.
A little science for you Doc. You shouldn't have to keep changing the hypothesis to fit the observations. That,s what NASA's parched earth theory is all about.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

The gravitational wave experiment confirmed Einstein's Gravity theory. The parched earth proposition has been created to explain the deficiencies in a model predicting sea level rise and biblical floods.
NASA satellites have not measures any change in absolute sea level in over a decade.
A little science for you Doc. You shouldn't have to keep changing the hypothesis to fit the observations. That,s what NASA's parched earth theory is all about.

Yes, sea level is rising. Oh My Word! There are middle schoolers more intelligent than you.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

The gravitational wave experiment confirmed Einstein's Gravity theory. The parched earth proposition has been created to explain the deficiencies in a model predicting sea level rise and biblical floods.
NASA satellites have not measures any change in absolute sea level in over a decade.
A little science for you Doc. You shouldn't have to keep changing the hypothesis to fit the observations. That,s what NASA's parched earth theory is all about.

Good lord. It took 30 seconds to refute that. NASA says sea level has increased an average of 3.39 mm per year since 1993. Where do you wingnuts get your "facts"?
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/

 

[WhiteTailEER]

I never deny the science.

You deny it all the time ... especially as it pertains to carbon dating

 

[MountaineerWV]

What I find funny is that your staunch anti-Global Warming people are Republicans. The same people who thump their Bible's in schools and everywhere else. So, they don't believe that environmental changes are going on and we are part of the problem, yet they want to believe in an almighty force governing and watching over everything? Confused here.....

 

[op2]

The gravitational wave experiment confirmed Einstein's Gravity theory. The parched earth proposition has been created to explain the deficiencies in a model predicting sea level rise and biblical floods.
NASA satellites have not measures any change in absolute sea level in over a decade.
A little science for you Doc. You shouldn't have to keep changing the hypothesis to fit the observations. That,s what NASA's parched earth theory is all about.

According to this NASA is measuring ongoing sea level rises, with satellites and otherwise.

http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/

 

[mneilmont]

Yes, sea level is rising. Oh My Word! There are middle schoolers more intelligent than you.

Are the middle schoolers more intelligent, or more programmed to accept the word of liberal instructors in order to regurgitate an answer to make a grade? And, I do readily admit that I know nothing about the science of climate change. I have to rely on those who study the subject, and I see too many learned people in the subject who do not agree with conclusion to those studies.

 

[mneilmont]

According to this NASA is measuring ongoing sea level rises, with satellites and otherwise.

http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/

I saw something in So Fl last summer that said they had to divert traffic around rising water and they had no reason for the rise. Sorta question that you are going to get ocean to rise in one location only. But that was reported.

 

[rog1187]

What I find funny is that your staunch anti-Global Warming people are Republicans. The same people who thump their Bible's in schools and everywhere else. So, they don't believe that environmental changes are going on and we are part of the problem, yet they want to believe in an almighty force governing and watching over everything? Confused here.....

LOL get with the cause...it is now called Climate Change...because Global Warming just wasn't cutting it.

 

[op2]

I saw something in So Fl last summer that said they had to divert traffic around rising water and they had no reason for the rise. Sorta question that you are going to get ocean to rise in one location only. But that was reported.

Maybe the land was sinking. That can happen in locations here and there over time. I don't know about a whole land mass but over long periods of time I bet it can. I think I read once that the height of Mt. Everest (as measured above sea level) is increase a few centimeters per year because two giant land masses are converging together and pushing Everest up in the process.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

LOL get with the cause...it is now called Climate Change...because Global Warming just wasn't cutting it.

Doesn't matter what it's called. You morons deny science. As to global warming, look at the graph. Damn liberal, Al Gore-brainwashed scientists at NASA (what have they ever done?)
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

 

[rog1187]

Doesn't matter what it's called. You morons deny science. As to global warming, look at the graph. Damn liberal, Al Gore-brainwashed scientists at NASA (what have they ever done?)
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

In fact, however, there is a decided lack of consensus among scientists, and especially among those who are trained in climate science or have studied it extensively. The 97.1 % consensus claimed by Cook et al. (2013) turns out upon inspection to be not 97.1 % but 0.3%. Their claim of 97.1 % consensus, therefore, is arguably one of the greatest items of misinformation that has been circulated on either side of the climate debate.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

In fact, however, there is a decided lack of consensus among scientists, and especially among those who are trained in climate science or have studied it extensively. The 97.1 % consensus claimed by Cook et al. (2013) turns out upon inspection to be not 97.1 % but 0.3%. Their claim of 97.1 % consensus, therefore, is arguably one of the greatest items of misinformation that has been circulated on either side of the climate debate.

I have some oceanfront property in Arizona. It is absolutely beautiful, you'll love it. 30 acres, all oceanfront. Normally this property is really high demand. It sells for about $100,000 per acre. That would equate to $3,000,000 (3 million). But since you are a friend that posts on this message board, I'm willing to let it go cheap. I'll let you have it for $100,000. That's about 3% of the market price.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

In fact, however, there is a decided lack of consensus among scientists, and especially among those who are trained in climate science or have studied it extensively. The 97.1 % consensus claimed by Cook et al. (2013) turns out upon inspection to be not 97.1 % but 0.3%. Their claim of 97.1 % consensus, therefore, is arguably one of the greatest items of misinformation that has been circulated on either side of the climate debate.

link?

 

[rog1187]

link?

http://download.springer.com/static...77b75f831607cdb054d0100cdcbb93411a817ab9fc8fe

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

http://download.springer.com/static/pdf/359/art%3A10.1007%2Fs11191-013-9647-9.pdf?originUrl=http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11191-013-9647-9&token2=exp=1455311970~acl=/static/pdf/359/art%253A10.1007%252Fs11191-013-9647-9.pdf?originUrl=http%3A%2F%2Flink.springer.com%2Farticle%2F10.1007%2Fs11191-013-9647-9*~hmac=0a00f6604a02dccc0f177b75f831607cdb054d0100cdcbb93411a817ab9fc8fe

[laughing] None of those authors are climatologists. They're not meteorologists. You do realize that Exxon Mobile has conceded that climate change is occurring, and has since 2008?

 

[rog1187]

[laughing] None of those authors are climatologists. They're not meteorologists. You do realize that Exxon Mobile has conceded that climate change is occurring, and has since 2008?

You have no idea what their paper is about and how it impacts the "97%" claim...but thanks for playing.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Everytime this is brought up the same **** is regurgitated. Of course Climate Change is occurring. To what degree is mankind impacting these changes?

 

[bornaneer]

Everytime this is brought up the same **** is regurgitated. Of course Climate Change is occurring. To what degree is mankind impacting these changes?

We all agree that climate change is happening now and has happened for billions and billions of years. The difference is that some people see the political opportunities and votes. Mankind has and will always have an impact. What's next after coal.....planes that spew billions of tons of pollution every year or all the taxi's,buses and black cars in a city like NYC? I have not seen any EPA crackdowns on those. Instead some of our so called progressives see farts from cattle and pigs as the next big vote getting opportuntity. I wonder what some of these folks are going to do when the Sun starts to die.

 

[bornaneer]

[laughing] None of those authors are climatologists. They're not meteorologists. You do realize that Exxon Mobile has conceded that climate change is occurring, and has since 2008?

Since 2008 ? I hate to clue you in.......climate change has been occurring for billions of years. What happened in 2008 that made you realize what was happening? Let me guess.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Since 2008 ? I hate to clue you in.......climate change has been occurring for billions of years. What happened in 2008 that made you realize what was happening? Let me guess.

Reading comprehension: try it, you might like it. This is what I said, "You do realize that Exxon Mobile has conceded that climate change is occurring, and has since 2008?" Exxon Mobile conceded in 2008 that global warming was occurring. See, it's not that hard.

 

[dave]

Reading comprehension: try it, you might like it. This is what I said, "You do realize that Exxon Mobile has conceded that climate change is occurring, and has since 2008?" Exxon Mobile conceded in 2008 that global warming was occurring. See, it's not that hard.

Reading comprehension should be preceded by good writing.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Reading comprehension should be preceded by good writing.

You're right. I'll try to remember my audience has the intelligence of a 10-year old.

 

[dave]

You're right. I'll try to remember my audience has the intelligence of a 10-year old.

You poorly worded your post. Learn from your mistakes and stop crying like a 10 year old.

 

[bornaneer]

Reading comprehension: try it, you might like it. This is what I said, "You do realize that Exxon Mobile has conceded that climate change is occurring, and has since 2008?" Exxon Mobile conceded in 2008 that global warming was occurring. See, it's not that hard.

Actually I knew exactly what you were trying to say but most people would see it as climate change has been occurring since 2008. My dig at you was like some of our narrow minded friends saying that Donald Trump wants to stop all immigration. Most of those folks appear to be so stupid they don't know the difference between "legal" and "illegal".

 

[MikeRafone]

I saw something in So Fl last summer that said they had to divert traffic around rising water and they had no reason for the rise. Sorta question that you are going to get ocean to rise in one location only. But that was reported.

Regions of South Florida are starting to experience some subsidence. Too many people and pumping the aquifers dry are given as the main reason. Building on a sand surface with an underlying honeycombed limestone bedrock having it's support pumped out as quick as it can flow in is a recipe for disaster.

The Virginia Beach/Norfolk area is having serious subsidence problems. The region is sinking, period. The lower Chesapeake Bay region is a flooded river mouth, the land made up of sand and silt. You build too much on that stuff and it will eventually start sinking. We're way past that point. The sinking and flooding in Norfolk is becoming a problem for the Navy and Marines. There have been some talks of about the long term sustainability of the facilities there.

Even minor sea level rises of inches, combined with sinking of the land, could be a disaster in both heavily populated, hurricane prone regions.