Paris to build 8' wall around

[WVPATX]

The Eiffel Tower. If walls don't provide security, why waste the money? So, I guess some walls are good for protection and others are not. So the wall in Israel is bad, even though lives have unquestionably been saved. The wall around the Eiffel Tower is good. The wall around the White House is good. The walls around celebrities homes is good. The wall on our southern border is bad. The wall on Hungarian border is bad. Turkey's wall on Syrian border is bad. Hungary/Serbian wall is good. Belfast wall is good. Just so hard to tell, glad libs are able to explain it to us.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ht-foot-bulletproof-wall-around-eiffel-tower/

 

[Boomboom521]

The Eiffel Tower. If walls don't provide security, why waste the money? So, I guess some walls are good for protection and others are not. So the wall in Israel is bad, even though lives have unquestionably been saved. The wall around the Eiffel Tower is good. The wall around the White House is good. The walls around celebrities homes is good. The wall on our southern border is bad. The wall on Hungarian border is bad. Turkey's wall on Syrian border is bad. Hungary/Serbian wall is good. Belfast wall is good. Just so hard to tell, glad libs are able to explain it to us.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ht-foot-bulletproof-wall-around-eiffel-tower/

You can't see a difference?

 

[WVMade]

You can't see a difference?

Being a cheerleader was always his dream... now he's living it.

 

[op2]

They just better be sure they put 8' instead of 8" on the plans, otherwise they could have a thing on their hands like what happened when Spinal Tap had a Stonehenge made for their concert.

 

[WVPATX]

You can't see a difference?

Difference? You mean a security wall is ok around some places but not others? Who decides? Is the Israeli wall ok? How about the Hungarian wall? The Belfast wall? The Vatican wall?

So celebrities can protect themselves but ranchers in Texas and Arizona can't? So walls can be used to keep migrants out like in Turkey, but not illegal aliens, drugs, criminals and the like out of America?

I am so confused and glad libs are here to help.

 

[moe]

Difference? You mean a security wall is ok around some places but not others? Who decides? Is the Israeli wall ok? How about the Hungarian wall? The Belfast wall? The Vatican wall?

So celebrities can protect themselves but ranchers in Texas and Arizona can't? So walls can be used to keep migrants out like in Turkey, but not illegal aliens, drugs, criminals and the like out of America?

I am so confused and glad libs are here to help.

Are you scared snowflake?

 

[WVPATX]

Are you scared snowflake?

No, but Kate Steinle's family may be, after all their daughter is gone. Are you in favor of an open border? Keep the drugs flowing, keep the gangs coming, enable terrorists to cross unimpeded?

How do we know what walls are good and what walls are bad? Can you help sort this out?

 

[WVMade]

No, but Kate Steinle's family may be, after all their daughter is gone. Are you in favor of an open border? Keep the drugs flowing, keep the gangs coming, enable terrorists to cross unimpeded?

How do we know what walls are good and what walls are bad? Can you help sort this out?

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

The Eiffel Tower. If walls don't provide security, why waste the money? So, I guess some walls are good for protection and others are not. So the wall in Israel is bad, even though lives have unquestionably been saved. The wall around the Eiffel Tower is good. The wall around the White House is good. The walls around celebrities homes is good. The wall on our southern border is bad. The wall on Hungarian border is bad. Turkey's wall on Syrian border is bad. Hungary/Serbian wall is good. Belfast wall is good. Just so hard to tell, glad libs are able to explain it to us.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ht-foot-bulletproof-wall-around-eiffel-tower/

I think an Eiffel Tower wall is bad, it will ruin the view of one of the world's most iconic sites. TERRIBLE!

Now, I was in Budapest in the summer of 2015 when all the refugee issues were going on. It was also terrible. Hundreds of people were sleeping in and around the train station looking for some way out of Hungary, who officially did not want them there. Their wall was a bit of a joke; rows of concertina wire haphazardly strung along the border in some places. Men would take turns with long tree branches or anything else they could find to hold it up so people could walk underneath; comical.

 

[moe]

No, but Kate Steinle's family may be, after all their daughter is gone. Are you in favor of an open border? Keep the drugs flowing, keep the gangs coming, enable terrorists to cross unimpeded?

How do we know what walls are good and what walls are bad? Can you help sort this out?

It's a little easier to build a wall around the Eiffel Tower than along a 2,000 mile border. Would an extended wall have kept her killer out of the U.S.? Do you not think that illegal immigrants can defeat a wall or go around it? A $15B wall extension would be an experiment that may or may not work. When will Mexico start paying back the U.S. taxpayers that will pay for the wall extension? What is this open border that you speak of? Why would you say that people and contraband are coming into the U.S. unimpeded? Life is not without risk.

 

[WVPATX]

It's a little easier to build a wall around the Eiffel Tower than along a 2,000 mile border. Would an extended wall have kept her killer out of the U.S.? Do you not think that illegal immigrants can defeat a wall or go around it? A $15B wall extension would be an experiment that may or may not work. When will Mexico start paying back the U.S. taxpayers that will pay for the wall extension? What is this open border that you speak of? Why would you say that people and contraband are coming into the U.S. unimpeded? Life is not without risk.

First of all, Trump is talking about far more security than just a wall. John Kelly describes it as a multi-layered approach. Use walls where they are necessary and not where they aren't needed (terrain often is a impenetrable wall). Then additional layers of border agents, electronic surveillance and even drones.

Our border is the single greatest crossing for illegal drugs countries into this country. San Diego alone is the single largest point of entry for Mexican Meth. We have 11M illegal aliens or more in this country. Clearly, the border is pretty open especially with Obama's catch and release.

So, unimpeded may not be quite the right word, how about quite open? And very callous of you to say life is not without risk. Go tell the families that have lost loved ones to illegal immigrants and say that life is full of risks. I would love to see you have the guts to take that action. Somehow, I don't think you do.

Trump's job is to protect the American people. As Obama said about gun control, even if only one life is saved, it is worth it.

Is the border any different than that single life to which Obama referred?

 

[moe]

First of all, Trump is talking about far more security than just a wall. John Kelly describes it as a multi-layered approach. Use walls where they are necessary and not where they aren't needed (terrain often is a impenetrable wall). Then additional layers of border agents, electronic surveillance and even drones.

Our border is the single greatest crossing for illegal drugs countries into this country. San Diego alone is the single largest point of entry for Mexican Meth. We have 11M illegal aliens or more in this country. Clearly, the border is pretty open especially with Obama's catch and release.

So, unimpeded may not be quite the right word, how about quite open? And very callous of you to say life is not without risk. Go tell the families that have lost loved ones to illegal immigrants and say that life is full of risks. I would love to see you have the guts to take that action. Somehow, I don't think you do.

Trump's job is to protect the American people. As Obama said about gun control, even if only one life is saved, it is worth it.

Is the border any different than that single life to which Obama referred?

BO is not prez anymore so surely this "catch and release" that you speak of has ended as well and if it hasn't then that's on Trump. I'm just stating a fact when I tell you that life is not without risk, like it or not. No matter what happens, there will still be crime and death associated with illegal immigrants. Drugs and people will continue to be smuggled in though it's a lot easier to smuggle drugs in. The non-wall security measures you mention, we already have of course and no one is stopping Trump from increasing those resources except for maybe Congress who would have to appropriate more $$ for it. Trump can't solve everything with an EO. Just like the gun control complainers, try enforcing the immigration laws that are on the books.

 

[Boomboom521]

Difference? You mean a security wall is ok around some places but not others? Who decides? Is the Israeli wall ok? How about the Hungarian wall? The Belfast wall? The Vatican wall?

So celebrities can protect themselves but ranchers in Texas and Arizona can't? So walls can be used to keep migrants out like in Turkey, but not illegal aliens, drugs, criminals and the like out of America?

I am so confused and glad libs are here to help.

I give you a hint. A wall that goes around the Eiffel Tower versus a wall that spans 1900+ miles? One in the same as far as strategy?

 

[WVPATX]

BO is not prez anymore so surely this "catch and release" that you speak of has ended as well and if it hasn't then that's on Trump. I'm just stating a fact when I tell you that life is not without risk, like it or not. No matter what happens, there will still be crime and death associated with illegal immigrants. Drugs and people will continue to be smuggled in though it's a lot easier to smuggle drugs in. The non-wall security measures you mention, we already have of course and no one is stopping Trump from increasing those resources except for maybe Congress who would have to appropriate more $$ for it. Trump can't solve everything with an EO. Just like the gun control complainers, try enforcing the immigration laws that are on the books.

There are risks in life but the President's job is to minimize risk from aliens. He can also help reduce crime inside the U.S. (e.g. Chicago) Protecting citizens should be his number one job.

Border security to stop felons, drugs, terrorists, etc. makes enormous sense. Not sure why Dems are so opposed.

 

[WVPATX]

I give you a hint. A wall that goes around the Eiffel Tower versus a wall that spans 1900+ miles? One in the same as far as strategy?

You apparently didn't read or hear John Kelly's comments. We will use a wall where it makes sense. We also have natural terrain that makes crossing impassable. No wall needed. We will use layered measures, electronic surveillance, 5,000 more border agents, massive patrols, drones, etc.

You do need to read more.

 

[Boomboom521]

You apparently didn't read or hear John Kelly's comments. We will use a wall where it makes sense. We also have natural terrain that makes crossing impassable. No wall needed. We will use layered measures, electronic surveillance, 5,000 more border agents, massive patrols, drones, etc.

You do need to read more.

Then why are you vomparing it to the wall at the Eiffel Tower?

You do need to think more.

 

[op2]

Maybe the wall around the Eiffel Tower is a wall meant to keep people near the Eiffel Tower out of America and they're just being extra careful by putting the wall way over in France.

 

[WVPATX]

Then why are you vomparing it to the wall at the Eiffel Tower?

You do need to think more.

LOL. A wall is a wall. Some short, some long. Generally used for security. Got it?

 

[Boomboom521]

LOL. A wall is a wall. Some short, some long. Generally used for security. Got it?

A wall is a wall. Sums you up

 

[WVMade]

You apparently didn't read or hear John Kelly's comments. We will use a wall where it makes sense. We also have natural terrain that makes crossing impassable. No wall needed. We will use layered measures, electronic surveillance, 5,000 more border agents, massive patrols, drones, etc.

You do need to read more.

We already have those "layered measures". You're a liar pretending we don't. "Liberals" also do care about secure borders. You're a liar pretending they don't. No one wants open unimpeded borders. You're a liar pretending they do. You're problem is you're a liar and you think an "alien" boogeyman is lurking outside to beat you and take your job.

 

[mule_eer]

First of all, Trump is talking about far more security than just a wall. John Kelly describes it as a multi-layered approach. Use walls where they are necessary and not where they aren't needed (terrain often is a impenetrable wall). Then additional layers of border agents, electronic surveillance and even drones.

Our border is the single greatest crossing for illegal drugs countries into this country. San Diego alone is the single largest point of entry for Mexican Meth. We have 11M illegal aliens or more in this country. Clearly, the border is pretty open especially with Obama's catch and release.

So, unimpeded may not be quite the right word, how about quite open? And very callous of you to say life is not without risk. Go tell the families that have lost loved ones to illegal immigrants and say that life is full of risks. I would love to see you have the guts to take that action. Somehow, I don't think you do.

Trump's job is to protect the American people. As Obama said about gun control, even if only one life is saved, it is worth it.

Is the border any different than that single life to which Obama referred?

So you are for strict gun control too?

You have people smuggling drugs here who built a mile-long tunnel into a shower in a maximum security prison. A hastily built wall to stop them is a joke. I'm fine with securing the border. Hiring more border patrol agents is a good move. Setting up more sensors and such makes sense, and we already have walls where they made sense. You've seen pictures of those misidentified as being on a border in Central America.

This isn't a case of being for a wall or being for unfettered access. This is about making smart financial decisions. How many sensors and agents could we pay for with the billions WE are going to spend on that wall? What's the relative effectiveness of those 2 strategies? You can actually take the cost of the agents out of that analysis too. A wall without people patrolling it is just a place to lean a ladder.

 

[WVPATX]

So you are for strict gun control too?

You have people smuggling drugs here who built a mile-long tunnel into a shower in a maximum security prison. A hastily built wall to stop them is a joke. I'm fine with securing the border. Hiring more border patrol agents is a good move. Setting up more sensors and such makes sense, and we already have walls where they made sense. You've seen pictures of those misidentified as being on a border in Central America.

This isn't a case of being for a wall or being for unfettered access. This is about making smart financial decisions. How many sensors and agents could we pay for with the billions WE are going to spend on that wall? What's the relative effectiveness of those 2 strategies? You can actually take the cost of the agents out of that analysis too. A wall without people patrolling it is just a place to lean a ladder.

Again with all due respect, have you been to the border? You're buying the liberal talking points Hook, line, and sinker. Have you talked with border patrol agents? Well I have and they tell a far different story than what you believe. Travel down to Texas sometime. Or Arizona for that matter. Heck, doto San Diego and talk with them, Home of the largest meth crossing in the country. Tell the border agents that the wall would do no good and see what they tell you.

From the very liberal and NPR:

 

[mule_eer]

Again with all due respect, have you been to the border? You're buying the liberal talking points Hook, line, and sinker. Have you talked with border patrol agents? Well I have and they tell a far different story than what you believe. Travel down to Texas sometime. Or Arizona for that matter. Heck, doto San Diego and talk with them, Home of the largest meth crossing in the country. Tell the border agents that the wall would do no good and see what they tell you.

From the very liberal and NPR:

I have a good buddy who is a border patrol agent. I used to go shooting with the guy a bunch. My point is that a wall doesn't stop the traffic without people to watch it. It's a huge expensive thing to build, and I want a cost benefit analysis instead of some knee-jerk response that a wall is the only solution. Heated highways would reduce the number of accidents in icy weather. The cost of building them isn't beneficial. If the wall makes the most financial sense, build it. I don't think it does though. That analysis has nothing to do with liberal or conservative talking points. It has to do with common sense.

 

[WVPATX]

I have a good buddy who is a border patrol agent. I used to go shooting with the guy a bunch. My point is that a wall doesn't stop the traffic without people to watch it. It's a huge expensive thing to build, and I want a cost benefit analysis instead of some knee-jerk response that a wall is the only solution. Heated highways would reduce the number of accidents in icy weather. The cost of building them isn't beneficial. If the wall makes the most financial sense, build it. I don't think it does though. That analysis has nothing to do with liberal or conservative talking points. It has to do with common sense.

The wall will undoubtedly staunch the flow of drugs and criminals and terrorists into this country. How do you put a cost on that? It's interesting, liberals want a cost-benefit analysis when it suits them but not when the EPA issues rules, they want no such cost-benefit analysis. They seem to want to pick and choose when that analysis is suits them. I am all in favor of a cost-benefit analysis. And if your buddy says the wall will do no good then he is at odds with his fellow border control agents given every poll that I have seen. He Is certainly odds with the union.

More importantly, Kelly has talked about a layered approach to border security including the wall, electronic surveillance, more border agents, and even drones. So we are not talking about just the wall.