Parking issues @State

The Cooterpoot

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I'm seeing students just blasting the parking changes on campus. Lots of students couldn't get parking. They're saying the school changed policy and it's a mess.

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ETK99

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True, But Apparently they made some big changes that made it worse and kids are blowing up social media with it. Talking to mine, it was a mess compared to previous years. Something about varying fees, getting kicked out of the site, and limited location I don't know.....she got hers
 
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dickiedawg

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What I was told was they sold 1 permit per space this year whereas last year it was 6 permits per. That’s a huge reduction. Seems foolhardy. (Edit: 6 is way too many!)

But they’ve been working toward making central campus pedestrian only for 20 years. Just one step closer. Hopefully the shuttle system is better than it was in the 00’s.
 

Barksaholic

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Yep….my son is a senior and lives off campus. Logged on before 8:00 on the designated day and was # 6400+ in the queue. He was not able to get a reserved spot in any lot on campus. He is on the waitlist for 3 different lots and the parking folks told him that spots will open up once classes actually start. Total BS
 

horshack.sixpack

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I'm seeing students just blasting the parking changes on campus. Lots of students couldn't get parking. They're saying the school changed policy and it's a mess.

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They’ve been pushing cars off campus, or to commuter lots served bus, for decades now.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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Want some great entertainment? Join a MSU parent FB page. These moms make it their mission to bulldoze even the most minor problem their kid encounters.

I once heard an AFROTC instructor say, “success is a lousy teacher.” As a society, we’re reaching a point where parents will not let their children fail. Failure teaches a lot of important life lessons and builds resilience.
 

golferdog

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True, But Apparently they made some big changes that made it worse and kids are blowing up social media with it. Talking to mine, it was a mess compared to previous years. Something about varying fees, getting kicked out of the site, and limited location I don't know.....she got hers
+ if you decide to ride your bike to class now, you have to pay a $10 permit fee for your bike. Who's going to monitor that? Parking is a problem on every campus, some are going to get screwed and have to adapt.
 
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horshack.sixpack

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Want some great entertainment? Join a MSU parent FB page. These moms make it their mission to bulldoze even the most minor problem their kid encounters.

I once heard an AFROTC instructor say, “success is a lousy teacher.” As a society, we’re reaching a point where parents will not let their children fail. Failure teaches a lot of important life lessons and builds resilience.
How do you learn coping skills if you never have to cope with anything until you are an adult? Then life punches you in the face. Parents should be training their kids for a fight but they are insulating them from the real world, and killing their chances at surviving mostly intact.
 

o_dawgflo

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I'm currently working at my 3rd institution of higher learning. Mississippi State was my second stop. Every student in America complains about parking. It doesn't matter where they attend or how great the parking services office is. It's low hanging fruit and easy to complain about. Don't worry, Student Government and/or campus newspaper will get involved and "they will get things changed".......
 

MagnoliaHunter

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Been going on for 30 years
I'm seeing students just blasting the parking changes on campus. Lots of students couldn't get parking. They're saying the school changed policy and it's a mess.

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When I was there in the late 80s, I lived in Evans dorm for 2 years. Undergrads who were on scholarship had to stay in the dorm then. The parking lot had less than half as many slots as there were students in the dorm. So people had to park in the grass beside and behind it. They gave tickets every day. At the end of the semester they said that I had to pay for about a 100 tickets. My uncle who was a lawyer called them and explained basic math to them. 15 minutes later I got a call saying that my tickets were voided.
 

ETK99

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They’ve been pushing cars off campus, or to commuter lots served bus, for decades now.
I don't think that's what this is about. They still have central campus parking, which costs more than other parking. They're saying they cut the number of passes they're selling for the same spots as last year and it's created a mess for a lot of kids. Kind of hard to push kids off a campus without an outstanding shuttle system, which we don't have.
 

615dawg

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Every college has parking issues, but going from 6:1 to 1:1 on passes is absurd. 4 or 5 is usually sufficient. We don't have the shuttle system capability to handle 1:1 parking.

This is a cluster and goes back to we have people in places that do not know what they are doing. The President of the university should never deal with parking passes, but I suspect its at the top of his list this morning. This will get fixed before classes start, but this was just stupid.
 
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horshack.sixpack

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I don't think that's what this is about. They still have central campus parking, which costs more than other parking. They're saying they cut the number of passes they're selling for the same spots as last year and it's created a mess for a lot of kids. Kind of hard to push kids off a campus without an outstanding shuttle system, which we don't have.
Hmmm, I thought we had shuttles. Regardless, from my time as a student in the dark ages, I wanted adequate parking near my first class that allowed me to sleep as long as possible, then swoop in before class, park and walk right in. I was always pissed about parking but now that I'm season, I realize that we don't have any way to provide the number of places that would be necessary for that.

I think that a massive parking garage would be a good idea for commuters during the week and athletic events on weekends/after hours. If MSU has truly pushed people off to parking that is too far to reasonably walk to campus and not provided bus service, then that is an issue. I suspect that the biggest issue is that available parking is not close enough to sleep as long as students would like and still walk to campus, just like it was in my day, but admittedly, I'm past the age of having a student there to really know.

ETA TLDR: my primary issue when I was at state was not enough open parking to accommodate my unwillingness to get my @SS out of bed in time to get to class
 
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WrightGuy821

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During my time as a student (2019-2023) We didn't have a parking issue, we had a convenient parking issue. There were plenty of people moaning and complaining about parking because they showed up at 11:50 for a 12:00 class and the closest parking lot was always full. During that time, every single commuter zone had additional lots that were practically empty because students didn't want to walk a little further to class
 

MSUDOG24

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During my time as a student (2019-2023) We didn't have a parking issue, we had a convenient parking issue. There were plenty of people moaning and complaining about parking because they showed up at 11:50 for a 12:00 class and the closest parking lot was always full. During that time, every single commuter zone had additional lots that were practically empty because students didn't want to walk a little further to class
Hey now, no opinions allowed based on actual recent experience. Reactions to FB/X only please.
 

DawgatAuburn

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What I was told was they sold 1 permit per space this year whereas last year it was 6 permits per. That’s a huge reduction. Seems foolhardy. (Edit: 6 is way too many!)

But they’ve been working toward making central campus pedestrian only for 20 years. Just one step closer. Hopefully the shuttle system is better than it was in the 00’s.
Sources have different calculations.

The Reflector says it was 1.6 permits per space. (https://reflector-online.com/34805/...pricing-and-permits-ahead-of-new-school-year/)
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This Mississippi Today video says it was 1:6 parking spot to student ratio. ()
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How do you learn coping skills if you never have to cope with anything until you are an adult? Then life punches you in the face. Parents should be training their kids for a fight but they are insulating them from the real world, and killing their chances at surviving mostly intact.
As the father of a recent college freshman, I think Mississippi State administration gives them plenty of chances to learn to cope. I have never had a less consistent customer service experience than freshman orientation, housing, enrollment, etc.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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The ONLY time I ever received a parking ticket was when I was a student at Mississippi State. I think it was when I first got there in 1994. I found it was one of the few benefits of having 8 o'clock classes every term.

EOT - the only solution I can see is large parking garages with shuttles across campus. Of course, you have to get people to agree to do that.
 

The Peeper

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Staff is pretty P.O.'d about the changes too. In the past they could park in any staff lot but now they are tied to a single lot just like the students. If they feel the need to go to a meeting across campus they have to pay double the cost of their single lot pass to park in any Staff lot
 

Drebin

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My kid lives at Helix so he's got free parking on the edge of campus.

3-D chess.
 

horshack.sixpack

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As the father of a recent college freshman, I think Mississippi State administration gives them plenty of chances to learn to cope. I have never had a less consistent customer service experience than freshman orientation, housing, enrollment, etc.
How involved were you in your kid's registration, etc.? When I think about how that’s changed over the generations it’s kind of incredible. My FIL hitchhiked to State carrying his bag. I loaded up my truck and moved myself in, handled all my registration, housing applications, etc. I moved my kids in but had nothing to do with their registration, housing applications, etc. I did help them understand and apply for financial aid. I know parents today who are a mess doing literally everything for the kid, and texting them incessantly because they noticed they were somewhere they shouldn’t be or not somewhere they should be because they track them by the minute on Life360…”don’t you have algebra right now?”

ETA: this is not a judgement on how it should/shouldn't be. I find it interesting how much it has changed and I'm thankful i was not inclined to worry myself to death about what mine were doing in college. I knew I had already sunk any chance of a low risk experience via my DNA...
 
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woozman

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Okay now that is money-grubbing horseshit. I never did it but damn.
Meh - it's only $10 and the racks to lock the bikes up aren't free. I rode my bike from South Nash to campus daily back in the day, and I would have paid $10 (even back then) and not complained if it meant more locations to lock it up...
 
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How involved were you in your kid's registration, etc.? When I think about how that’s changed over the generations it’s kind of incredible. My FIL hitchhiked to State carrying his bag. I loaded up my truck and moved myself in, handled all my registration, housing applications, etc. I moved myself kids in but had nothing to do with their registration, housing applications, etc. I did help them understand and apply for financial aid. I know parents today who are a mess doing literally everything for the kid, and texting them incessantly because they noticed they were somewhere they shouldn’t be or not somewhere they should be because they track them by the minute on Life360…”don’t you have algebra right now?”
I am involved, but only for the things that will ensure that he is technically enrolled for the first day of class so there's no technical problem that sidelines him for a semester. He's on his own for the rest.

Over the last 4 years, I've laid out all of the major options/career paths that I think he might be interested in, talked with him about rush and the Greek system, offered to introduce him to the alumni that I know might be helpful to him, and he knows that he has a resource in his dad. But, I'm not initiating anything.

We'll see how it goes. Wish him (and us) luck!
 
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horshack.sixpack

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I am involved, but only for the things that will ensure that he is technically enrolled for the first day of class so there's no technical problem that sidelines him for a semester. He's on his own for the rest.

Over the last 4 years, I've laid out all of the major options/career paths that I think he might be interested in, talked with him about rush and the Greek system, offered to introduce him to the alumni that I know might be helpful to him, and he knows that he has a resource in his dad. But, I'm not initiating anything.

We'll see how it goes. Wish him (and us) luck!
Best of luck. Life is backwards. You have to make big decisions about what you want to do in life before you have much experience doing anything in life. I'm still not sure what I want to do when I grow up...
 
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Best of luck. Life is backwards. You have to make big decisions about what you want to do in life before you have much experience doing anything in life. I'm still not sure what I want to do when I grow up...
I'm not breaking any news here or anything, but it is amazing how humble raising a kid made me.

I've not been afraid of much in my adult life, but there are rarely more than a few days that go by that I'm not worrying over how my kids will do as they become young adults. And trying to balance help/support with restraint is one of the most difficult things I think a person can experience.

I want them to be happy, and that's all. I hope I've given them what they need to find that sooner than later.
 
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horshack.sixpack

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I'm not breaking any news here or anything, but it is amazing how humble raising a kid made me.

I've not been afraid of much in my adult life, but there are rarely more than a few days that go by that I'm not worrying over how my kids will do as they become young adults. And trying to balance help/support with restraint is one of the most difficult things I think a person can experience.

I want them to be happy, and that's all. I hope I've given them what they need to find that sooner than later.
If you had just asked me before I had kids, I had all the answers. I cannot help you now. Sounds like you are doing great!
 
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If you had just asked me before I had kids, I had all the answers. I cannot help you now. Sounds like you are doing great!
Ask me on my deathbed (if I should be so lucky), and I'll mumble something to you about wanting the chocolate kind of Ensure that the creatures are hiding from me instead of the vanilla kind.
 

MStateDawg

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During my time as a student (2019-2023) We didn't have a parking issue, we had a convenient parking issue. There were plenty of people moaning and complaining about parking because they showed up at 11:50 for a 12:00 class and the closest parking lot was always full. During that time, every single commuter zone had additional lots that were practically empty because students didn't want to walk a little further to class
This was my experience in the late 90s/early 2000s. There were always plenty of spaces as long as you were willing to walk a bit.
 

Wesson Bulldog

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Yep….my son is a senior and lives off campus. Logged on before 8:00 on the designated day and was # 6400+ in the queue. He was not able to get a reserved spot in any lot on campus. He is on the waitlist for 3 different lots and the parking folks told him that spots will open up once classes actually start. Total BS
Same thing happened to mine. He is a little farther from campus this year. The tram or trolley or whatever it is runs by his street, so he may be thumbing it until more spaces open up. It's part of being in college and part of learning how to overcome and adapt was my 2 cents.