Past time to give Rich his due respect for W-L record

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Who cares about before or after wvu lol? Let me say this slow for you. RichRod was a great coach at wvu while he was coach at wvu. Gave the Mountaineers a unique personality and a renewed national profile. Now...stay on topic.
Who cares WTFUSay. Never said he wasn't a good coach at WVU but he was far from great.
 
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Who cares about before or after wvu lol? Let me say this slow for you. RichRod was a great coach at wvu while he was coach at wvu. Gave the Mountaineers a unique personality and a renewed national profile. Now...stay on topic.


RichRod was a great coach at wvu while he was coach at wvu. Gave the Mountaineers a unique personality and a renewed national profile.

FINALLY SOMEONE WITH READING COMPREHENSION INTERPRETED BY POST. THANK GOD FOR SMALL FAVORS! THAT'S RICH!
 
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Burned every bridge and scorched several interstates when he left for Mich... He gets exactly what he deserves....


He gets exactly what he deserves? Really, you obviously know the Rich that I do.


When Rich learned (not from me) that my wife was terminally ill with cancer he made it a point to call her during his radio show and chat with her for 15 minutes about what it meant to be a WVU fan.


Rich made my Mona Lisa, as I called her because it was a play on her birth name of Monia Elizabeth, feel special. And he made her children and grandchildren agog that a nationally famous coach would be caring and considerate enough to put her, not him, in the spotlight.


After my wife passed away, Rich mailed me a note on WVU letterhead with his photo on it, to console me about my loss.


That made Rich a lot better person that many on here claim at a time when I needed it.


My family album, titled "My Mona Lisa," has photos of my wife as a child, during our courtship, during our 48-year marriage, our 3 children and 7 grandchildren and 5 great-grandchildren.


And a treasured page, a with scanned copy of Rich's caring and consoling letter to me, right next to a photo of my wife's double grave with "WV" under her name and my name.


Nobody is all bad no matter what those without personal contact with them think. I prefer to see the silver lining in Rich and how he made my Mona Lisa special.


Rich's winning percentage just makes the cake richer.

That's the off-field man that I remember from first-hand experience . . . twice!
 

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Rich had his coaching flaws.

Pat White has to be one of the top 5 quarterbacks in WVU history. But it took Bednarik getting hurt before Rich started him.
 

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We would be lucky if RichRod was still coach of the Mountaineers. Wouldn't have had to go through the awful Oliver Luck AD years...the insufferable Dana time...and the climb the hill to mediocrity boy Neal.
 

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He gets exactly what he deserves? Really, you obviously know the Rich that I do.


When Rich learned (not from me) that my wife was terminally ill with cancer he made it a point to call her during his radio show and chat with her for 15 minutes about what it meant to be a WVU fan.


Rich made my Mona Lisa, as I called her because it was a play on her birth name of Monia Elizabeth, feel special. And he made her children and grandchildren agog that a nationally famous coach would be caring and considerate enough to put her, not him, in the spotlight.


After my wife passed away, Rich mailed me a note on WVU letterhead with his photo on it, to console me about my loss.


That made Rich a lot better person that many on here claim at a time when I needed it.


My family album, titled "My Mona Lisa," has photos of my wife as a child, during our courtship, during our 48-year marriage, our 3 children and 7 grandchildren and 5 great-grandchildren.


And a treasured page, a with scanned copy of Rich's caring and consoling letter to me, right next to a photo of my wife's double grave with "WV" under her name and my name.


Nobody is all bad no matter what those without personal contact with them think. I prefer to see the silver lining in Rich and how he made my Mona Lisa special.


Rich's winning percentage just makes the cake richer.

That's the off-field man that I remember from first-hand experience . . . twice!
And attempted to burn down the athletic department , sued the school to negate paying his fee for leaving earley and called WVU racist because they wouldn't interview McGee.....probably a lot more but I got tired trying to remember why he was such a POS...
 

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Definition of journalism

1a: the collection and editing of news for presentation through the media
b: the public press
c: an academic study concerned with the collection and editing of news or the management of a news medium
2a: writing designed for publication in a newspaper or magazine
b: writing characterized by a direct presentation of facts or description of events without an attempt at interpretation
c: writing designed to appeal to current popular taste or public interest

A journalist is not necessarily a writer, but a writer should follow the rules of journalism as well as those of writing. As indicated above in 2b, journalism is a direct presentation of true facts in an informative and easy to read fashion. Anything else is commentary, opinion, or editorializing.

There is nothing wrong with expressing opinion, beliefs, or interpretations of events, but it is not journalism. It is what the Blue Lot as well as the Mountaineer Message Board are for. Debating WVU sports as fans, making predictions and even arguing our point is what we pay or at least endeavor to do here. But let's not mistake it for journalism. That's what the cool guys who run this website do and they are well qualified.
 

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We would be lucky if RichRod was still coach of the Mountaineers. Wouldn't have had to go through the awful Oliver Luck AD years...the insufferable Dana time...and the climb the hill to mediocrity boy Neal.
After Pat White. WVU would have been on 5 years probation and Rod fired and no invite to the Big 12.
 
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We would be lucky if RichRod was still coach of the Mountaineers. Wouldn't have had to go through the awful Oliver Luck AD years...the insufferable Dana time...and the climb the hill to mediocrity boy Neal.

AGREE EXCEPT FOR NEAL BROWN. I KNOW HE'S .500 AFTER 2 SEASONS BUT I THINK EVERY COACH SHOULD BE GIVEN 4 YEARS SO THAT IT'S ONLY HIS RECRUITS BEFORE A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN. ART "PAPPY" LEWIS WAS 7-13
And attempted to burn down the athletic department , sued the school to negate paying his fee for leaving earley and called WVU racist because they wouldn't interview McGee.....probably a lot more but I got tired trying to remember why he was such a POS...

THREE BLIND MEN SAW THE ELEPHANT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. SAME WITH YOU AND ME. I WILL BE FOREVER GRATEFUL TO RICH FOR HIS CARING, THOUGHTFUL RESPONSE TO MY DYING WIFE AND ME.
 

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AGREE EXCEPT FOR NEAL BROWN. I KNOW HE'S .500 AFTER 2 SEASONS BUT I THINK EVERY COACH SHOULD BE GIVEN 4 YEARS SO THAT IT'S ONLY HIS RECRUITS BEFORE A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN. ART "PAPPY" LEWIS WAS 7-13

THREE BLIND MEN SAW THE ELEPHANT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. SAME WITH YOU AND ME. I WILL BE FOREVER GRATEFUL TO RICH FOR HIS CARING, THOUGHTFUL RESPONSE TO MY DYING WIFE AND ME.
I am betting this is a big lie.
 

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RichRod is NOT even
a West Virginia HOF Candidate.

RichRod is Not Even College Football Hall Of Fame Candidate, as a player
or a Coach.

RichRod is Not a HOF Candidate because he wrote a touching Condolences Ltr to original submitter CFE - sorry CFE.

FLASH in the Pan,
yes RRod is a
"FLASH in the Pan" Candidate.

Full Picture Review.
7 years does NOT Paint a Hall of Traditions Candidate.
 

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Scorched Earth Policy

only works briefly even for the most Vulnerable Fan Bases, as RR lobbied Oliver Luck to return after
UMichigan Failure.
 

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Oliver Luck was very involved in getting WVU into the Big 12 through his Texas connections along with Joe Manchin for calling out Senator Mitch McConnell for trying to use his connection with the president of Oklahoma to have Louisville chosen instead. McConnell and Oklahoma backed off and Texas had their way and the better choice was made.

Rich Rodriguez is a complicated individual who is driven by his ego to be at the top of whatever he does and viciously attack anyone or any entity that stands in his way. He has shown to be much better with attracting the Jimmys and Joes than being effective with the Xs and Os.

Halftime adjustments should have taken care of the infamous Pitt game that likely kept WVU from a National title, but there were none. Player for player WVU was the much better team and there are many coaches who could have made the adjustments to win that game going away. His inflexibility during games has haunted him everywhere with losses that should have been wins.

Rich apparently had another side away from football that most of us are unaware of. His on the field persona and willingness to bend the rules were separate from the type of person he could be if something touched him in a way that made him care. I believe Cuyahoga Falls Eers account of the way RR treated him and his late "Mona Lisa". That alone makes him an unwavering defender of RR and everything about him, it's human nature.

Anecdotal evidence of his bridge burning with a flame thrower and historical events tell us that although RR did very well with Pat White, Steve Slaton, Darius Reynaud, Owen Schmitt, Noel Devine, and others he has struggled without that kind of talent. The results are there for anyone to become aware of including causing Michigan to be put on probation.

Despite a fresh start at Arizona, Rodriguez will likely never be a P5 head coach again. But his close friends and others he touched with compassion off the field will forever defend him. JMHO
 

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Oliver Luck was very involved in getting WVU into the Big 12 through his Texas connections along with Joe Manchin for calling out Senator Mitch McConnell for trying to use his connection with the president of Oklahoma to have Louisville chosen instead. McConnell and Oklahoma backed off and Texas had their way and the better choice was made.

Rich Rodriguez is a complicated individual who is driven by his ego to be at the top of whatever he does and viciously attack anyone or any entity that stands in his way. He has shown to be much better with attracting the Jimmys and Joes than being effective with the Xs and Os.

Halftime adjustments should have taken care of the infamous Pitt game that likely kept WVU from a National title, but there were none. Player for player WVU was the much better team and there are many coaches who could have made the adjustments to win that game going away. His inflexibility during games has haunted him everywhere with losses that should have been wins.

Rich apparently had another side away from football that most of us are unaware of. His on the field persona and willingness to bend the rules were separate from the type of person he could be if something touched him in a way that made him care. I believe Cuyahoga Falls Eers account of the way RR treated him and his late "Mona Lisa". That alone makes him an unwavering defender of RR and everything about him, it's human nature.

Anecdotal evidence of his bridge burning with a flame thrower and historical events tell us that although RR did very well with Pat White, Steve Slaton, Darius Reynaud, Owen Schmitt, Noel Devine, and others he has struggled without that kind of talent. The results are there for anyone to become aware of including causing Michigan to be put on probation.

Despite a fresh start at Arizona, Rodriguez will likely never be a P5 head coach again. But his close friends and others he touched with compassion off the field will forever defend him. JMHO
Good summary but RR ego has been given "much worthless play, here".

Career experiences & Personal
Life Observations Does Not Place RR in the "Special Category".

In the end, RR is nothing more than a Spoiled Brat Millionaire - Enter Louisiana Monroe.

Some actions cannot be apologized for (after the fact) & ego expects Foregiveness, because of his own perceived greatness - Even WV fans are smarter than RR thinks.

As for Oliver Luck, not much impressed with him, either.
 
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Oliver Luck was very involved in getting WVU into the Big 12 through his Texas connections along with Joe Manchin for calling out Senator Mitch McConnell for trying to use his connection with the president of Oklahoma to have Louisville chosen instead. McConnell and Oklahoma backed off and Texas had their way and the better choice was made.

Rich Rodriguez is a complicated individual who is driven by his ego to be at the top of whatever he does and viciously attack anyone or any entity that stands in his way. He has shown to be much better with attracting the Jimmys and Joes than being effective with the Xs and Os.

Halftime adjustments should have taken care of the infamous Pitt game that likely kept WVU from a National title, but there were none. Player for player WVU was the much better team and there are many coaches who could have made the adjustments to win that game going away. His inflexibility during games has haunted him everywhere with losses that should have been wins.

Rich apparently had another side away from football that most of us are unaware of. His on the field persona and willingness to bend the rules were separate from the type of person he could be if something touched him in a way that made him care. I believe Cuyahoga Falls Eers account of the way RR treated him and his late "Mona Lisa". That alone makes him an unwavering defender of RR and everything about him, it's human nature.

Anecdotal evidence of his bridge burning with a flame thrower and historical events tell us that although RR did very well with Pat White, Steve Slaton, Darius Reynaud, Owen Schmitt, Noel Devine, and others he has struggled without that kind of talent. The results are there for anyone to become aware of including causing Michigan to be put on probation.

Despite a fresh start at Arizona, Rodriguez will likely never be a P5 head coach again. But his close friends and others he touched with compassion off the field will forever defend him. JMHO

RICH DOESN'T GET CREDIT FOR BRINGING PAT, STEVE, OWEN AND NOEL TO WVU AND MAKING GOOD USE OF THEIR TALENTS? RECRUITING IS GOOD, BUT THEN TURNING THE TALENT INTO EXCELLENT PERFORMANCE, WHICH RICH DID AT WVU, WAS EXCEPTIONAL. AT MICHIGAN AND ARIZONA, FLAMEOUT. BUT AT WVU, SOARING SUCCESS.
 

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Good summary but RR ego has been given "much worthless play, here".

Career experiences & Personal
Life Observations Does Not Place RR in the "Special Category".

In the end, RR is nothing more than a Spoiled Brat Millionaire - Enter Louisiana Monroe.

Some actions cannot be apologized for (after the fact) & ego expects Foregiveness, because of his own perceived greatness - Even WV fans are smarter than RR thinks.

As for Oliver Luck, not much impressed with him, either.

I liked Luck more as a QB than as an Athletic Director. I know he called in favors with Texas politicians and supporters to get WVU into the Big 12 when Oklahoma was pushing Louisville, that is fact. I still don't know why in the world the Big 12 didn't take both of us and one more at the time. But that is hindsight.

I used to cover WVU and sometimes Marshall for Bleacher Report years ago, hence my name on here. In one of my best read articles ever, Luck assured me that the Big 12 was going to expand and quickly. I got burned and stopped writing for BR because of it. Let's just say I do not send him birthday or Christmas cards. I don't know, maybe he believed it at the time. Enough about my past, it simply does not belong here and is irrelevant. I couldn't carry Keenan's ipad on my best day other than proof reading.
 

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RICH DOESN'T GET CREDIT FOR BRINGING PAT, STEVE, OWEN AND NOEL TO WVU AND MAKING GOOD USE OF THEIR TALENTS? RECRUITING IS GOOD, BUT THEN TURNING THE TALENT INTO EXCELLENT PERFORMANCE, WHICH RICH DID AT WVU, WAS EXCEPTIONAL. AT MICHIGAN AND ARIZONA, FLAMEOUT. BUT AT WVU, SOARING SUCCESS.

Doesn't matter - CFE,
your Opinions are tainted.


Your on a West Virginia Sports
msg Board
& CFE -- You Spu your love for RROD.

CFE, You Love RichRod more than
West Virginia University &
the State of West Virginia.

Ain't that something - that you love PricRod more than WVU.

Divorce is final.
 
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Doesn't matter - CFE,
your Opinions are tainted.


Your on a West Virginia Sports
msg Board
& CFE -- You Spu your love for RROD.

CFE, You Love RichRod more than
West Virginia University &
the State of West Virginia.

Ain't that something - that you love PricRod more than WVU.

Divorce is final.

BIGGEST ******** EVER POSTED:

CFE, You Love RichRod more than
West Virginia University &
the State of West Virginia.

NO ONE LOVES MY ALMA MATER MORE THAN ME. EVERYONE WITH A BRAIN KNOWS THAT.
 

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BIGGEST ******** EVER POSTED:

CFE, You Love RichRod more than
West Virginia University &
the State of West Virginia.

NO ONE LOVES MY ALMA MATER MORE THAN ME. EVERYONE WITH A BRAIN KNOWS THAT.

??Then,
when Can You Shut the *** Up about RichRod?????

You're wasting everyone's time -
Spu-ing your Love for RROD .
 

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I love me Some RichRod,

I love me some PR,

I love me some RROD,

I love me some PricRod,

I love me some DRod.

Almost a parable
but I love me some Louisiana Monroe.
 

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The bottom line is that Rodriguez was a one-trick pony. He had an innovative offense at the time, but defenses caught up with him, and he failed to respond. One dimensional spread offenses that feature a running, but below average passing, quarterback became easy to contain.
 

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The bottom line is that Rodriguez was a one-trick pony. He had an innovative offense at the time, but defenses caught up with him, and he failed to respond. One dimensional spread offenses that feature a running, but below average passing, quarterback became easy to contain.
All WVU offendes since RR have been eady to contain lol.
 

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spewing crap online

IT'S CALLED THE TRUTH. AND THE WORDS COUNT, NOT WHO TYPES THEM, WHO READS THEM, OR THE CAPS, OR THE BOLD FONT. IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH, JUST ADMIT. STOP FINDING SOMETHING SO PETTY AS CAPS OR BOLD FONT. RICH DID AN AMAZING JOB AT WVU. THE NUMBERS PROVE IT. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. WHETHER YOU, OR ME, LIKE RICH PERSONALLY OR NOT. WHY DO PEOPLE GET SO ANGRY WHEN THE TRUTH GOES AGAINST THEIR BIAS? KILL THE MESSENGER NEVER GOES OUT OF STYLE. I'M WITHSTOOD IF FROM GOVERNORS AND SENATORS. I CAN HANDLE IT FROM SPORTS FANS, TOO. AS LONG AS I LIKE THE GUY I SEE IN THE MIRROR, EVERYTHING ELSE IS LOWER ON THE TOTEM POLE TO ME.
One man's opinion of himself and Richard is not relevant to supporters of WVU in total. Would also add the fraternity of NCAA football administrators. No one is going to stand up for the way in which he left our university. By the same token his football acumen seems to draw much less awe for his post WVU record. In other words, he is poison in the eyes of football administrators who have the power to hire. He was proven to be less than loyal to his employer with all the resume's he had his agent sending out. His record was great at his alma mater but his character does not rise to the level needed to make him attractive to any D-1 college/university..
 

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People are pissed because the players laid an egg against Pitt while at the same wishing we could have the same success that came with RichRod. He was the best wvu has had with Don N a close second.
 

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People are pissed because the players laid an egg against Pitt while at the same wishing we could have the same success that came with RichRod. He was the best wvu has had with Don N a close second.
Not really -

149 WVU wins (HOF Nehlen)
doesn't compete
with measly ~ 60 WV wins
(RR now at Louisiana Monroe, LouisianaMonroe), no matter how you and others wish to stretch the truth of WVU athletics, and

especially how RR departed
while damaging WVU.

Live with it.