Pat Forde article on signing of Sidney.......

[38843dawg]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4141859&sportCat=ncb

Sorry if germans, but I didn't see it anywhere on here. and then there is this from some homosexual basketball blogger at CBS.....

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/6271764

 

[38843dawg]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4141859&sportCat=ncb

Sorry if germans, but I didn't see it anywhere on here. and then there is this from some homosexual basketball blogger at CBS.....

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/6271764

 

[jamdawg96]

National contender.

The rest seems like too much of a mess to worry about until more information is gathered by our athletic department.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Read the Forde article if you are not familiar with the basketball recruiting "game", and then tell me that football recruiting is dirtier.

It's not even close.

 

[Rebels7]

There's so much room for loopholes and side deals, there's no way for the NCAA to keep up with it all.

If the kid gets in, congratulations for State. Y'all will have all of a handful of months to get anything out of him.

 

[RebelBruiser]

It's the AAU that makes basketball recruiting what it is. It's not that coaches are inherently dirtier in basketball. They just do what is required by the AAU system to recruit players.

Football has no AAU, so it doesn't compare. You have handlers and coaches basically selling players in football as well, but it's not nearly as widespread.

 

[graddawg]

There's so much room for loopholes and side deals, there's no way for the NCAA to keep up with it all.

If the kid gets in, congratulations for State. Y'all will have <span style="font-weight: bold;">all of a handful of months</span> to get anything out of him.

More than enough time to be in the national conversation and make some noise in March.

 

[Rebels7]

nm

 

[Coach34]

his wife is unattractive yet very aggressive, he plays a weakass schedule every year, and has substitution patterns that make you wonder if he is watching the game...BUT- he and his assistants work their *** off in recruiting and it keeps them employed with a solid team every year. Nobody had to kill anybody this time for him to get lucky, it was just a case of USC and UCLA out-bidding the other and then worried they are going to get caught...

Stansbury is actually taking a chance by signing this prima donna and I respect that. This wont be easy for us, but he is stepping out there and taking the risk for a higher reward...good for him

 

[jakldawg]

normally when you mention the words "freshman" and "unresolved daddy issues" you think of large bar bills and weird 2a.m. phone calls, not this crap.

Plus, it's pretty obvious if you follow hoops recruiting at all that this movie

was more of a documentary than I realized.

 

[Dawg in Caintuck]

Just like Memphis had only a handful of months with Rose and a national championship game. Not saying we are gonna do that, but your point isn't a good one.

 

[mstateglfr]

You do realize he is CBS' sole College Basketball writer...right? He isnt just some random *** dude commenting on the situation, he flies all over the country watching AAU games and has exposed a ton of **** concerning the seedier side of HS/College basketball.

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[ArrowDawg]

National contender.

The rest seems like too much of a mess to worry about until more information is gathered by our athletic department.

Yeah right, national contender, which of course after being tranlated into MSU language means that some ******** will happen(like NCAA troubles over this guy) that'll make everything blow up in our face.

It's always something with MSU sports.

 

[mredge]

Should this guy be a longshot, great white hope cornerback with a name like this?

Forde, wrote, "State compliance director Bracky Brett (a classic SEC name) told the Times, "It's going to be an interesting couple of weeks. Or months."

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[Henry Kissinger]

but i didn't think this was one of them. it sounded like a fair assessment. maybe i'm just saying that as a state fan.

 

[jamdawg96]

1996. Dontae Jones. Questionable eligibility. Final four.

I hope we take our chances.

 

[38843dawg]

You do realize he is CBS' sole College Basketball writer...right? He isnt just some random *** dude commenting on the situation, he flies all over the country watching AAU games and has exposed a ton of **** concerning the seedier side of HS/College basketball.

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the reason I said that is because he looks like a ***, not because what he wrote was gay.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Just like Memphis had only a handful of months with Rose and a national championship game. Not saying we are gonna do that, but your point isn't a good one.

On the flip side, there's USC and OJ Mayo who got bounced in the first round of the NCAA tourney. Sidney's worth taking the chance, assuming your investigation into his background comes up clean enough.

On a side note, I was listening to a national radio show yesterday, and they had a basketball expert on talking about the NBA playoffs, college recruiting, and other basketball topics. Anyway, they got around to Sidney, and he mentioned that apparently he's gotten out of shape lately as well. I haven't seen the pictures, but the guy said he's overweight right now, and it surprised him to see that.

 

[lawdawg02]

just sayin.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Anthony Randolph, etc. etc.

Getting a blue chip one and done guy can help a lot, but it doesn't guarantee anything. For you guys, you should have a good team anyway, which will give you the opportunity to make a run if Sidney turns out to be a stud for you.

 

[Sutterkane]

While it's true, it doesn't change the fact that both are very flawed systems with many loopholes.

 

[DynamicDawg]

Which piece of **** stinks worse ....

I hope it works out for us. But, I wish Stans didn't have to get involved with situations like this.

 

[lawdawg02]

but tyreke evans on the other side.

i'm not arguing that his one year means a championship for us. but of all those players you named, their teams fared much better with them than they would have without them. usc was definitely better with mayo. ucla rode kevin love to the final four during his one year.

i'll gladly take one year from sidney, especially when you couple his presence with the team we have returning. i would also be willing to bet that most of the one-and-dones who have made big runs in the tourney entered similar situations, and most who did little to nothing in march did not have that luxury. sidney joins a tournament team, conference tourney champion, that returns nearly the entire team (of course, depending on varnado).

i'm certainly not saying "we got a one-and-done, we're going to the final four!!"

 

[RebelBruiser]

Definitely agree, he shouldn't make you any worse by any means. You should be better with him for sure. And all those teams mentioned were better. I was just pointing out that not all one and dones lead to a run like Derek Rose did. Memphis was a good team that would've been a fairly early exit without Rose. With Rose, they were minutes away from a national title.

 

[mstateglfr]

<span class="post-title">Yes, and there's Thaddeus Young, Michael Beasley...</span>Anthony Randolph, etc. etc.

Getting a blue chip one and done guy can help a lot, but it doesn't guarantee anything.

Take Beasley off that list.

Without him, KState isnt **** last season. Walker would have been doubleteamed and they would have sucked...hard. With Beasley, they competed in a stron Big12 and actually beat KU for the first time in 24 years or something like that. Because of Beasley, they had a solid recruiting class last season and are set up with another one this season. Beasley's mark on that program was deep. Sure they didnt do **** in the NCAA, but come on, where they were before him to where they were with him and where they are now?...HUGE improvement.

I agree that Young didnt help GTech, but that program is just Fn absurd. The sheer amount of talent they pull in should make them studs, yet they suck year after year. Lawal and Shumpert this season are more evidence of how that program is awful...and they pulled in more solid players for next season and will once again suck.
Id add Crittenton to the list of how GTech clearly just sucks at existing.

Im pretty sure LSU would have been even worse without Randolph last season...if they could have been any worse.

Rose, Beasley, Mayo, Love, Eric Gordon, Bayless, Oden, Durant, Conley, Brandan Wright, Daequan Cook, Tyrus Thomas(though he RS'd)...all these guys seriously impacted their programs and made them better in the short term, long term, or both...in just a couple years of drafts.