Pencil UT into the Sweet 16.

Hanmudog

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All UT has to do is beat Whale ****** State and Ohio University to make the Sweet 16. Yet another reason why the Sweet 16 is a poor benchmark for judging a coach.
 

Hanmudog

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All UT has to do is beat Whale ****** State and Ohio University to make the Sweet 16. Yet another reason why the Sweet 16 is a poor benchmark for judging a coach.
 

Hanmudog

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All UT has to do is beat Whale ****** State and Ohio University to make the Sweet 16. Yet another reason why the Sweet 16 is a poor benchmark for judging a coach.
 

Hanmudog

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Ohio finished 7-9 in their own conference. The game today was not an indicator of how they usually play. Plus we see this every year where a team pulls an upset and then gets smoked in the second round. I honestly don't know much about San Diego State so I could be wrong.
 

Hanmudog

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missouridawg said:
And if you don't think Bruce Pearl is a good coach, you're as nuts as he is.

I think Pearl is a very good coach and never said otherwise. My point was that all Sweet 16s are not equal and sometimes you can't judge a coach by whether or not he has been to a Sweet 16.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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... if you thought Vandy & UF embarrassed themselves & the SEC today, wait until you get a load of what UT has in store.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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You think if I am wrong about UT I'm going to run & hide?


You are wrong about stuff on a daily basis on this board, but your dumb *** never goes away.
 

DawgatAuburn

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But I can always hope.

There's also a decent chance you will be right. My archives will tell the story.
 

Coach34

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Everybody else just gets lucky- State just gets unlucky...if a team gets there- they earn it

Stands just can't get it done- it's not his fault...he just doesn't it have it...it's our fault for keeping him around longer and delaying the inevitable... He's great at beating Valley and SEC West teams though- and the West is what matters...this NCAA Tourney ******** is just luck. A national title won on the floor is just a bunch of crap anyway
 

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Coach34 said:
Everybody else just gets lucky- State just gets unlucky...if a team gets there- they earn it

Stands just can't get it done- it's not his fault...he just doesn't it have it...it's our fault for keeping him around longer and delaying the inevitable... He's great at beating Valley and SEC West teams though- and the West is what matters...this NCAA Tourney ******** is just luck. A national title won on the floor is just a bunch of crap anyway
I am just saying it is stupid to use a Sweet 16 as a measuring stick and not look at who a team beat to get there.Do you really think a situation where you only have to go through San Diego State and Ohio is equivalent to having to beat Oregon and Memphis to reach the Sweet Sixteen?
 

Coach34

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And exactly why were we playing Mempho in the 2nd round? Losses to who during the regular season?

We made out own bed
 

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What if UT-Arlington had pulled off a miracle and knocked off Memphis in the first round 1, and then we swamped them up easily that year?<div>
</div><div>Would you give Stans credit for that Sweet 16?</div><div>
</div><div>Don't lie. You, along with even Stans supporters, would say it doesn't really count since we only had to beat a 16 seed.</div><div>
</div><div>Similarly, if Tennessee beats an 11 and a 14 to get there, it's not particularly impressive.</div>
 

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Coach34 said:
Everybody else just gets lucky- State just gets unlucky...if a team gets there- they earn it

Stands just can't get it done- it's not his fault...he just doesn't it have it...it's our fault for keeping him around longer and delaying the inevitable... He's great at beating Valley and SEC West teams though- and the West is what matters...this NCAA Tourney ******** is just luck. A national title won on the floor is just a bunch of crap anyway
Coach, I agree Stansbury doesn't"get up" to coach some games, mainly in the regular season to nobody opponents, but IthinkStansbury is a good enough coach to get us to aSweet 16. Just look at what he's done the last 2 years in the SEC tourny and in'03 (or was it '02) when we knocked off #9 Alabama to win the SECT.Stansbury is obviously a good tourny coach, he just seems to havesome lapses early in the season and hopefully, after this year, he will fix that problem.He's a great tourny coach and if you think we haven'thad some baddraws, you're kidding yourself and biased. He's proven he's a good tourny coach by his SECT record. NCAAs is a differ story, but I think mainly it's because of our draws, and you can say that the reason we get those draws is because of our play in regular season non-conf games because it is.

It's not an excuse to say"the reason welost Xavier is because they were on fire from 3 point range and no one could beat them that day." They made 17'n 13 out of 19 three pointers and shot 55% from the field that game. That is hard to beat in an NCAAT game and we shot 36%. Wedidn't play horrible but we didn't play that well, and they played one of the best games in Xavier basketball history that day. Now I know this isn't going to do any good, but you need to get your head out of yourass and realize that Stansbury is the best we can do and can do the best at MSU than any other coach we would have a logical chance at getting.

The only coaches I could think of eventaking a chance on who would possibly come here would be Siena's coach, San Diego State, and Steve Alford of New Mexico but he would probably bounce for Indiana in a heart beat if he even had mediocre Stansburytype success here. I'll take my chances withStansbury and win consistently year in and year out. Besides Williams miracle run from 94-96, MSU basketballhad verylittle existenceexceptbeforecolor television and a minor spark in the mid 80s.

The sooner you realize Stansbury is the best we're going to get andus havingat least have one mediocre respectable athletic program the better off you'll be. I'll tell you thisCoach, I have beenin Orlando for a week and I've been wearingState shirts and I have gotten at least 5 comments about how WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE TOURNY and how we have a good team.Get your head outta your ***, Coach. Stansbury will be herea while.
 

Hanmudog

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Just illustrating the stupidity of you acting like the Sweet 16 is the Holy Grail of coaching. When there is a major upset in the opposite bracket then suddenly the road there gets pretty easy so luck does sometimes play a part in it.
 

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Hanmudog said:
All UT has to do is beat Whale ****** State and Ohio University to make the Sweet 16. Yet another reason why the Sweet 16 is a poor benchmark for judging a coach.
SDSU isnt exactly a chump team.

Making the Sweet 16 would be a bad benchmarkif it was the only thing you used tojudge a coach. But it isnt the only thing most everyone here uses, its just the most often repeated thing.

As for this being ahella easy route to the Sweet 16, i suppose that could also show how easy it can be to make the Sweet 16...right? So then all the more reason why Stans should have gotten there.
It can cut both ways(and its a dumbass argument both ways).
 

Hanmudog

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It is gosh damn amazing the number excuses for losing thatyou have come up with for coaches not named Stansbury.
 

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TheStateUofMS said:
Coach34 said:
Everybody else just gets lucky- State just gets unlucky...if a team gets there- they earn it

Stands just can't get it done- it's not his fault...he just doesn't it have it...it's our fault for keeping him around longer and delaying the inevitable... He's great at beating Valley and SEC West teams though- and the West is what matters...this NCAA Tourney ******** is just luck. A national title won on the floor is just a bunch of crap anyway
Coach, I agree Stansbury doesn't"get up" to coach some games, mainly in the regular season to nobody opponents, but IthinkStansbury is a good enough coach to get us to aSweet 16. Just look at what he's done the last 2 years in the SEC tourny and in'03 (or was it '02) when we knocked off #9 Alabama to win the SECT.Stansbury is obviously a good tourny coach, he just seems to havesome lapses early in the season and hopefully, after this year, he will fix that problem.He's a great tourny coach and if you think we haven'thad some baddraws, you're kidding yourself and biased. He's proven he's a good tourny coach by his SECT record. NCAAs is a differ story, but I think mainly it's because of our draws, and you can say that the reason we get those draws is because of our play in regular season non-conf games because it is.

It's not an excuse to say"the reason welost Xavier is because they were on fire from 3 point range and no one could beat them that day." They made 17'n 13 out of 19 three pointers and shot 55% from the field that game. That is hard to beat in an NCAAT game and we shot 36%. Wedidn't play horrible but we didn't play that well, and they played one of the best games in Xavier basketball history that day. Now I know this isn't going to do any good, but you need to get your head out of yourass and realize that Stansbury is the best we can do and can do the best at MSU than any other coach we would have a logical chance at getting.

The only coaches I could think of eventaking a chance on who would possibly come here would be Siena's coach, San Diego State, and Steve Alford of New Mexico but he would probably bounce for Indiana in a heart beat if he even had mediocre Stansburytype success here. I'll take my chances withStansbury and win consistently year in and year out. Besides Williams miracle run from 94-96, MSU basketballhad verylittle existenceexceptbeforecolor television and a minor spark in the mid 80s.

The sooner you realize Stansbury is the best we're going to get andus havingat least have one mediocre respectable athletic program the better off you'll be. I'll tell you thisCoach, I have beenin Orlando for a week and I've been wearingState shirts and I have gotten at least 5 comments about how WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE TOURNY and how we have a good team.Get your head outta your ***, Coach. Stansbury will be herea while.


I've got 12 years of evidence saying he isn't...what you got to defend your side?
 

MSUCostanza

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But you never know. Point is, it was a much easier road to Lexington going through Princeton than it would've been going through UCLA. That was Han's point.
 

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Stans has beaten a good many teams that have gone to the Sweet 16 and beyond in the same season, not to mention he's been one possession away from going himself, so it's pretty asinine to say that he's incapable of going himself.

Bobby Bowden coached at FSU for 17 years before he won the national championship,Tom Osborne 21 years... people said they couldn't do it too,but it's just dumb to say that a coach that gets you onthe cusp of doing something MULTIPLE times can't actually EVER get over the hump
 

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Coach34 said:
TheStateUofMS said:
Coach34 said:
Everybody else just gets lucky- State just gets unlucky...if a team gets there- they earn it

Stands just can't get it done- it's not his fault...he just doesn't it have it...it's our fault for keeping him around longer and delaying the inevitable... He's great at beating Valley and SEC West teams though- and the West is what matters...this NCAA Tourney ******** is just luck. A national title won on the floor is just a bunch of crap anyway
Coach, I agree Stansbury doesn't"get up" to coach some games, mainly in the regular season to nobody opponents, but IthinkStansbury is a good enough coach to get us to aSweet 16. Just look at what he's done the last 2 years in the SEC tourny and in'03 (or was it '02) when we knocked off #9 Alabama to win the SECT.Stansbury is obviously a good tourny coach, he just seems to havesome lapses early in the season and hopefully, after this year, he will fix that problem.He's a great tourny coach and if you think we haven'thad some baddraws, you're kidding yourself and biased. He's proven he's a good tourny coach by his SECT record. NCAAs is a differ story, but I think mainly it's because of our draws, and you can say that the reason we get those draws is because of our play in regular season non-conf games because it is.

It's not an excuse to say"the reason welost Xavier is because they were on fire from 3 point range and no one could beat them that day." They made 17'n 13 out of 19 three pointers and shot 55% from the field that game. That is hard to beat in an NCAAT game and we shot 36%. Wedidn't play horrible but we didn't play that well, and they played one of the best games in Xavier basketball history that day. Now I know this isn't going to do any good, but you need to get your head out of yourass and realize that Stansbury is the best we can do and can do the best at MSU than any other coach we would have a logical chance at getting.

The only coaches I could think of eventaking a chance on who would possibly come here would be Siena's coach, San Diego State, and Steve Alford of New Mexico but he would probably bounce for Indiana in a heart beat if he even had mediocre Stansburytype success here. I'll take my chances withStansbury and win consistently year in and year out. Besides Williams miracle run from 94-96, MSU basketballhad verylittle existenceexceptbeforecolor television and a minor spark in the mid 80s.

The sooner you realize Stansbury is the best we're going to get andus havingat least have one mediocre respectable athletic program the better off you'll be. I'll tell you thisCoach, I have beenin Orlando for a week and I've been wearingState shirts and I have gotten at least 5 comments about how WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE TOURNY and how we have a good team.Get your head outta your ***, Coach. Stansbury will be herea while.

I've got 12 years of evidence saying he isn't...what you got to defend your side?
He's the winningest basketball coach in MSU history and has more 20 win seasons than any other coach.
 

Coach34

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the team you are supposed to play just beat somebody to get there...if the badass team loses, obviously they just arent that damn good to begin with...

Hell, 2009- LSU is tough as hell but loses to national champion North Carolina in the 2nd round... the better team won, but LSU could have beaten most others

There aren't many teams you can say had a legitimate shot at winning it all that lost in the 2nd round
 

Coach34

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20 win seasons than any other coach in Mississippi history- does that make him great too?
 

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Georgetown would beat Ohio 9 out of 10 times. Vandy would probably beat Murray State 7 out of 10 times. Upsets happen and the winning team is not always the best team. Are we better than Old Dominion and Vandy? Is Rider better than us? I can't believe this even needs explaining.
 

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It wasn't easier playing Princeton than it would've been playing UCLA? Just because UCLA lost that one meeting doesn't mean they were a worse team than Princeton. If they play that game 100 times, UCLA wins 95 of them. Just so happened that Princeton caught them on the right night that night. And we benefitted, especially with Dampier in the middle, it was a super-easy matchup for us, and we completely dominated them as a result. I'm not saying we would've lost to UCLA, but there is no doubt the game would've been a lot tougher.

And did you just say that 2009 LSU was "tough as hell"? I thought the SEC West was the bearer of everything that sucked about college basketball? Or does that only apply when State wins the division?

You are a 17ing clown.
 

Coach34

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When were we one possession from a Sweet 16? The only game that went to the wire was 1st round Butler

Bobby Bowden had a chance to win 6 other national titles before he won his first one- winning on his 7th...Dr. Tom won on his 6th chance at a national title...Stands hasnt been anywhere close to even making the final 16 teams...worst comparision ever

Those 2 guys were in the mix for a title repeatedly- Stands can't even get close
 

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Hanmudog said:
Georgetown would beat Ohio 9 out of 10 times. Vandy would probably beat Murray State 7 out of 10 times. Upsets happen and the winning team is not always the best team. Are we better than Old Dominion and Vandy? Is Rider better than us? I can't believe this even needs explaining.

Because Ohio is up 1-0 right now...I'd bet a million they would beat them again in the next 9 games

"Are we better than Old Dominion and Vandy?"

Old Dominion- yes
Vandy- no
 

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We lost to them by 4 or whatever it was at Vandy but beat them by 10 on a neutral court. Jesus, you need to be ***** slapped.

http://www.bingegamer.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/*****-Slap-Mark-2.jpg
 

MSUCostanza

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You're just doing this to piss people off. You cannot possibly be this stupid. If you are, I feel sorry for your offspring.
 

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and their body of work is much better than ours...

November and December is not exhibition season