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Nitlion1986

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My honest thoughts:

125 - I thought this was a great match between two great wrestlers. I thought Dean came to scrap.
133 - Again, two great wrestlers going at it.
141 - Bailey did what he had to do and rode the takedown to a victory. He wrestled smart.
149 - You can't be upset with Block's effort. I was actually pretty impressed.
157 - Again, at the half way point, every match was a battle. I don't think Williams ever really challenged Duke, but, he certainly fought hard
165 - I don't know how you can get down on Caliendo. Mitchell is just an alien. The more aggressive you are against him, the worse things will go for you. Just like the Hidlay's, Mikey is simply blocked by an all-timer
174 - The Brands were proven right putting Gabe out there. He did what he was asked to do
184 - Angelo is tough to score on, but, with all that talent, that just isn't enough. Welsh isn't necessarily an offensive machine, but, he definitely was the more aggressive wrestler
197 - Barr is a machine, and there isn't much to talk about in this one
285 - Both of these guys struggle against the big guys. It just looked like Mirasola was out there to win and Kueter was wrestling with caution.
I thought Iowa had a really good night. They actually won one more match than I believed they would and got 2 more takedowns than I thought possible. They were never going to win or score many offensive points, but tonight against a very good Penn State Iowa exceeded expectations. That should be viewed as a good night.
 
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If these refs ever start calling PSU for moving forward, taking shots, wrestling with both knees up in neutral and not laying flat on their belly's, things will really start to change!

Oh, and if you can't tell that Lilledahl and Blaze are juicing, I don't know what to tell you. They look like the Incredible Hulk twins out there!

Without cheating, we lose that match is 29-6 at worse. Where is Vodka? We need to call the compliance office ASAP!
Post of the night!!😂😂😂😂
 

Psalm 1 guy

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That was gold.
 

Wrestleknownothing

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Lol he's lucky he didn't get hit for stalling again to put it into OT, he absolutely deserved it. The first takedown was slick but he was done wrestling at that point.
And Davis did nothing to force the issue. Bailey was smart and tactical. Davis needed to take a real shot to get the stall call but didn't. He was flailing out there and that won't get you a call.
 

johnstownsteel

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Hey, anyone know if Hawkeye Terry from BEG posts on this board. I know he reads the forums but was curious if he posts. Seems like a real good dude and if he posts I'd like to know his username so I can follow him.
 
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johnstownsteel

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And Davis did nothing to force the issue. Bailey was smart and tactical. Davis needed to take a real shot to get the stall call but didn't. He was flailing out there and that won't get you a call.
I don't think Braeden had much left in him. He's a couple weeks out from propping his feet up every weekend thinking he'd be in redshirt all season. I'd expect him to get his lungs and head back into the game soon..
 

el dub

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How on earth did Rocco even wrestle that match? Did you see the incredibly "mean" stare down that Ferrari gave him during the handshake.

Honestly, I think next time Ferrari should do the stare down from one knee. It was sad to see such a great guy like him from such a great family come up short.

Did he get beat tonight?
 

LIV4GOD

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Sorry had to get permission to post this

Could be getting some more bad news

DECOMITTS unless something changes

Im done posting
Good luck hawk fans
Let's say we lose the brunt of the best recruits who said they were coming in.

If that happens, there is no other choice. The coaches need fired.

If you can't keep the recruits, it's impossible to improve the program.
 

FanInBlack

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Angelo and Arnold may both have been #1 recruits. Ayala was like #3. Keuter was top ten. Those 4 went 0-4 and scored 0 takedowns and really never even came close to one in 28 minutes
Angelo was yes. He lost a close match to a top 10 p4p out of HS recruit who was a NCAA runner up at tOSU.

Ayala lost to to a 2 time world champion ( and 1 time silver world medalist) , and the number one p4p wrestler in his class. Thats Spencer Lee level credentials.

Arnold was not a #1 recruit. He was wrestling a guy with similar HS pedigree but one that has already won 3 B1G championships and an NCAA championship.

Kueter I'll give you.

Penn St gets Angelo's and Ben Kueter's every year. They get Drakes and Arnold's as additional recruits every year. Every. Year.

That meet was about a talent discrepancy, not coaching.
 

AndreTheHawk

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Why would that be his job in this situation?
Because Gabe is really hard to take down and PK is much better offensively, but was likely to get worked by someone as relentless as Haines.

Problem is Gabe's offense is what you saw against really good competition, just doesn't have a ton of skill on the offensive side. That said, he had a chance late, which several did actually, we just sucked when it mattered most.

So Gabe did indeed do his job, he kept the mauling under 30 which was apparently the goal tonight. 😡
 
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AndreTheHawk

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Angelo was yes. He lost a close match to a top 10 p4p out of HS recruit who was a NCAA runner up at tOSU.

Ayala lost to to a 2 time world champion ( and 1 time silver world medalist) , and the number one p4p wrestler in his class. Thats Spencer Lee level credentials.

Arnold was not a #1 recruit. He was wrestling a guy with similar HS pedigree but one that has already won 3 B1G championships and an NCAA championship.

Kueter I'll give you.

Penn St gets Angelo's and Ben Kueter's every year. They get Drakes and Arnold's as additional recruits every year. Every. Year.

That meet was about a talent discrepancy, not coaching.
It was about both, and has been for a long time.
 

Mattski

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Let's say we lose the brunt of the best recruits who said they were coming in.

If that happens, there is no other choice. The coaches need fired.

If you can't keep the recruits, it's impossible to improve the program.
It's too late for that. Flailing programs get stuck in this whole, "we can't lose the recruits" worry. Hire the right coaches and the recruits will come. Keep the wrong ones and it doesn't matter anyway.
 

Mattski

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Angelo was yes. He lost a close match to a top 10 p4p out of HS recruit who was a NCAA runner up at tOSU.

Ayala lost to to a 2 time world champion ( and 1 time silver world medalist) , and the number one p4p wrestler in his class. Thats Spencer Lee level credentials.

Arnold was not a #1 recruit. He was wrestling a guy with similar HS pedigree but one that has already won 3 B1G championships and an NCAA championship.

Kueter I'll give you.

Penn St gets Angelo's and Ben Kueter's every year. They get Drakes and Arnold's as additional recruits every year. Every. Year.

That meet was about a talent discrepancy, not coaching.
And Drake is a 5th year senior, 2 time finalist and still has only 2 offensive attacks and zero top game. Blaze is a stud but a 5th year multi time finalist needs to at least be able to score an offensive point against a freshman.
 

MacwoodFleetPSU

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Angelo was yes. He lost a close match to a top 10 p4p out of HS recruit who was a NCAA runner up at tOSU.

Ayala lost to to a 2 time world champion ( and 1 time silver world medalist) , and the number one p4p wrestler in his class. Thats Spencer Lee level credentials.

Arnold was not a #1 recruit. He was wrestling a guy with similar HS pedigree but one that has already won 3 B1G championships and an NCAA championship.

Kueter I'll give you.

Penn St gets Angelo's and Ben Kueter's every year. They get Drakes and Arnold's as additional recruits every year. Every. Year.

That meet was about a talent discrepancy, not coaching.
Arnold was the number one recruit before he moved to Iowa City prior to graduating. Naturally, he got worse, because guys who get into the Hawkeye sphere with no offense can spend an infinite about of time there and never improve on offense.

As a Penn State fan, I hope your AD views things the way you do. Because, buddy, lemme tell you, your biggest issue are the two brothers in the corner vs our two brothers (and casey) in our corner. That's where the biggest mismatch lies.
 

FanInBlack

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Arnold was the number one recruit before he moved to Iowa City prior to graduating. Naturally, he got worse, because guys who get into the Hawkeye sphere with no offense can spend an infinite about of time there and never improve on offense.

As a Penn State fan, I hope your AD views things the way you do. Because, buddy, lemme tell you, your biggest issue are the two brothers in the corner vs our two brothers (and casey) in our corner. That's where the biggest mismatch lies.
I never said the issue wasnt the brothers. But Arnold didnt lose to some tomatoe can. Levi was a similar recruit/ talent and to argue otherwise is ignoring the facts. This wasnt a blue chip losing to a walk on.
 
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FanInBlack

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And Drake is a 5th year senior, 2 time finalist and still has only 2 offensive attacks and zero top game. Blaze is a stud but a 5th year multi time finalist needs to at least be able to score an offensive point against a freshman.
maybe Blaze is better than anyone Drake has ever faced. Time will tell. There is a reason everyone wanted that kid. Its not like he came out of nowhere.
 

MacwoodFleetPSU

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I never said the issue wasnt the brothers. But Arnold didnt lose to some tomatoe can. Levi was a similar recruit/ talent and to argue otherwise is ignoring the facts. This wasnt a blue chip losing to a walk on.
Gabe was an elite recruit and can't sniff the podium in year 3.
 

Misalorales

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Angelo was yes. He lost a close match to a top 10 p4p out of HS recruit who was a NCAA runner up at tOSU.

Ayala lost to to a 2 time world champion ( and 1 time silver world medalist) , and the number one p4p wrestler in his class. Thats Spencer Lee level credentials.

Arnold was not a #1 recruit. He was wrestling a guy with similar HS pedigree but one that has already won 3 B1G championships and an NCAA championship.

Kueter I'll give you.

Penn St gets Angelo's and Ben Kueter's every year. They get Drakes and Arnold's as additional recruits every year. Every. Year.

That meet was about a talent discrepancy, not coaching.
Arnold was #5 P4P while Haines was 9, separate years. Arnold was ranked ahead of Welsh,Barr ,and Kasak in his class. It's fair to to be concerned as to why Arnold hasn't had much of any impact as a starter yet.