Penn State HAS to let Paterno coach out the season...

Xenomorph

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If they don't let him coach, they admit wrongdoing. They admit to a 13 year cover up within the football program of Sandusky's crimes. They admit to allowing child abuses to happen on campus.

And in this instance what would 9 (presuming more don't come forward) civil cases of child molestation be worth? 50 million? 500 million?

It's going to boil down to money. And because of it they'll let him coach.
 

Xenomorph

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If they don't let him coach, they admit wrongdoing. They admit to a 13 year cover up within the football program of Sandusky's crimes. They admit to allowing child abuses to happen on campus.

And in this instance what would 9 (presuming more don't come forward) civil cases of child molestation be worth? 50 million? 500 million?

It's going to boil down to money. And because of it they'll let him coach.
 

Dawgzilla

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And the remedial measure of getting rid of the idiots cannot be used as proof of liability in the civil cases.

The BOT has a reputation and brand to protect. They have to act swiftly and decisively.
 

Xenomorph

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It's not proof? They why would they fire them? (I know.... I just exposed my lack of legal expertise.)
 

The Peeper

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they start doing the right thing or not now instead of when they should have.
 

patdog

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If they let him coach the rest of the season and "retire" the Board is participating in the cover up. Right now, they at leastappear to have a legitimate claim that they had no idea of what was going on. But with the evidence that's come out, they can't make that claim today. If they want to protect themselves, now is the time to fire Paterno (as in before the game Saturday) and everyone else involved (the AD, the VP who got arrested, the President, and the GA who kept quiet after telling Paterno about it) and bring in new people from outside the university.</p>
 

thatsbaseball

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there is absolutely no telling how many lawyers have been asked for adviceby former players, coaches and administrators as to wkat they should do.
 

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i don't think the university admits anything either way. <div>
</div><div>also, i think the university will pay out some to the victims, but a majority of the blame lies with the individual committing the crime and the individuals involved in the cover up. the university in general would have to have been found to have perpetuated the molesting to be held responsible. the argument will be that a couple of employees in administrative were notrepresentativesof theuniversityas a whole, and thus the university should not be held liable, or should only be held liable for a small % of the damages. it comes down to whether the institution itself perpetuated the crimes or the individuals involved perpetuated the crimes, and i'm thinking most/all of the liability will fall on the individuals.</div><div>
</div><div>crippling a school financially doesn't do anything but hurt a 'thing' financially and the students who lose educational opportunities due to however much $$ ends up going to victims. punishing the individuals actually punishes those responsible without the side effect of punishing the students attending penn st. no doubt penn st will pay something out to settle the matters, but the brunt of the liability will be on sandusky and those found to have helped cover up his actions.</div>
 

Xenomorph

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Do the right thing from this point on and let the chips fall where they may or continue to deny and orchestrate and hope your defense looks plausible.
 

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Which is a bad move for the program long term. To me, it's simple. He and others involved didn't do the right thing and they basically chose to cover their asses and ignore the rape of a child. They got away with it for a long time, now it's hitting the fan. Letting him coach through season's end is letting him have his cake and eat it too, and totally ***** on everything they built over his tenure. It's to late for Paterno to go out with a big standing O and a bunch of hugs and smiles, and if that happens, it'll be a 17'ing disgrace.
 

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It's not coming down to money. They've already been effectively found guilty, per the indictments of the two school officials, that they knew about it and took no action. They hid it within the corporation, excuse me, school.

Sure there is a civil piece to this that will come out and will cost the school hundreds of millions of dollars, and will do damage to the school that it may not recover from. Criminal cases take precedence over civil cases, so all of these felony counts have to be worked out. There will be more victims coming forward. Do you honestly think Joe Paterno, WHO COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS MONSTER FROM MOLESTING MORE CHILDREN BUT DID NOT, should remain in place? Hell no. Same goes for the Graduate Assistant coach, the AD, and anyone else that knew of this.
 

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He is just as much in this as all the others. He did not report a damn felony and he knew about it. He allowed his greed for "records" to overcome doing what was right. I think he should be put in prison just like the rest of them.
 

The Peeper

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wants to. He needs to take that walk from the field house to the same house he has been walking to and from for 46 years and never look or come back or see daylight again.
 

DerHntr

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going to get much worse, if that is really possible. The son of a ***** is a serial child rapist and his high profile is going to further encourage people to come forward who were scared to deal with the reach of the university alone.

I hope they fry this bastard.

As for McQuery, the fact that he didn't push harder to see this come to light is a testament of his character. What a jackass.
 

Dawgzilla

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There are ways around it, but the general rule is that subsequent remedial measures cannot be used as proof of liability. Let's say someone trips and falls in a parking lot, and one of their claims is there was insufficient lighting in that area of the lot. If the land owner is willing to put in better lighting, he should be allowed to do that without that being used against him as an admission that the prior lighting was insufficient. It is better for society as a whole that the lighting be improved, and you won't want the land owner dissuaded from that based on the fear that it will hurt his legal defense.

The same rule would apply in this case. Penn State is better off removing everyone involved in this matter, and sending a strong message that this activity will not be tolerated. They should be free to do that without fear of legal consequences in the civil case. Besides, they can always argue that firing Paterno and everyone else was a PR move, and not based on their actual culpability.
 

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We advise you to handle your shitstorm differently than we did.

Sincerely,

The Catholic Church
 

Xenomorph

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Deny, Deflect, Spin. They haven't done the right thing to this point... why start now?
 

freddawg

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that Joe Paterno released that statement to the press. Not Penn State, and not speaking on their behalf. I wouldn't be surprised if they made the decision that he won't coach any longer. The way it was worded seems like he was sending a message to the Board of Trustees in the statement. Basically pleading with them to let him stay until the end of the year.
 

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And that point is ... how many more kids were molested AFTER Joe knew but did nothing about it other than tell the AD. How many cases could he have simply avoided by acting? Once he saw there was no action being taken, he should have personally gone to the authorities. That's easy to say in retrospect, but it's still something he should have done. It's been what ... well over 10 years since he knew? There probably were dozens of victims since then. And there's been time for some of them to have been through Second Mile and then played at Penn State (that might be a stretch, but it's possible). And yes, Sandusky probably at least made some advances toward incoming freshmen ... and they could have somehow thought that cooperation with him might help their football career at the school. There really is no end to the potential fallout from the guy's actions over such a long period of time.<div>
</div><div>I'll have to say that Sandusky had a lot of nerve. I would assume that the locker rooms and showers were fairly open with very little if any privacy. And he was raping kids in that atmosphere? I wonder how many other people walked in on him? And I'm sure his position at the school, and lately his former position, was quite intimidating to whoever might have witnessed the goings on so they didn't report anything</div>
 

RocketDawg

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But Joe Paterno IS Penn State ....<div>
</div><div>I betcha he coaches from the press box Saturday, if he's still there, to avoid the exposure (although given the mobs at his house, the students and others are behind him).</div>
 

FlabLoser

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At least the justice system is a bit more consistent than the NCAA. And they don't much care for man-boy love. There will be no blind eyes turned toward this.
 

FlabLoser

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Would serve PSU right for the po po to get enough evidence for arrest around kickoff time this week. Then he gets taken in cuffs from the stadium.
 

ckDOG

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It's going to be like the circus is coming to town. There is absolutely no way they have a Joe Paterno led PSU team visit those two places. If he shows up, it's going to get very very very ugly.

Joe is going to need to borrow the Pope mobile.