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CTStall

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El_Jefe said:
Agreed ... though we do have others available to eat up matches before a Nagao-Davis decision needs to be made: Nasdeo, Cunningham, plus Garcia up 1 weight.

Next 2 matches are Stanford + ND State at Journeyman. Since that's 1 competition date, I'd expect Desmond to get both (including #15 Consiglio). He'd then have 2 dates remaining. Presumably the Scuffle would be another.

After that, the B10 duals schedule starts 1/10 vs Rutger (#5 Oliveri). That's the first real gate. If Davis starts, that's it for Nagao. If anybody else starts, then we're still keeping the seat warm.
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Do you get 4 or 5 events without burning shirt. ?
I was thinking it was 4. I might be confusing football.
A question on what is done among the the team and coaches. If Nagao and Davis are getting beat by Desmond for the 141 spot and he wants to wrestle this year, do coaches allow him to compete??
With easy transfer rules, I would think these decisions are different than years ago .
 
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CTStall said:
Do you get 4 or 5 events without burning shirt. ?
I was thinking it was 4. I might be confusing football.
A question on what is done among the the team and coaches. If Nagao and Davis are getting beat by Desmond for the 141 spot and he wants to wrestle this year, do coaches allow him to compete??
With easy transfer rules, I would think these decisions are different than years ago .
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5 competition dates. I think Nate may be the best all around wrestler of the 3, but at 141 I have a hard time seeing him outperforming those two this year.
 
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CTStall said:
Do you get 4 or 5 events without burning shirt. ?
I was thinking it was 4. I might be confusing football.
A question on what is done among the the team and coaches. If Nagao and Davis are getting beat by Desmond for the 141 spot and he wants to wrestle this year, do coaches allow him to compete??
With easy transfer rules, I would think these decisions are different than years ago .
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There's a big difference between winning a wrestle-off in the room vs winning multiple matches in one weekend at B10s and again at NCAAs. We have 2 returning AAs already at the weight who aren't significantly undersized. The only reason to burn Desmond's shirt now is if he is clearly superior AND the coaches determine shirting now would make him sit on the bench next year. The second part of that equation is realistic, especially with Ono back.

Can't imagine Cael makes lineup decisions based on risking somebody maybe possibly potentially portaling out. The guys all know the score when they choose PSU.
 
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Sportfan2017

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No weight classes in the jungle

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Cool Interview. I know this may not be popular....but I like Gabe Arnold. I like his attitude and, after all he has been through, I will root for him. His decision to stay at Iowa has just increased my respect for him.....As long as he is not wrestling a PSU or former PSU guy or local Pennsylvania guy that is :) Yeah....I know that eliminates a bunch of quality wrestlers :).
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El_Jefe said:
Seriously. Really hope nobody is looking at a regular decision win vs an 0-5 opponent and extrapolating that to Mendez.

I mean, imagine the howls from here if HR claimed Jordan Williams would bump up 2 weights and give Levi a fight.
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Ironbird, MSU and Corby.
 
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Sportfan2017 said:
Cool Interview. I know this may not be popular....but I like Gabe Arnold. I like his attitude and, after all he has been through, I will root for him. His decision to stay at Iowa has just increased my respect for him.....As long as he is not wrestling a PSU or former PSU guy or local Pennsylvania guy that is :) Yeah....I know that eliminates a bunch of quality wrestlers :).
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Not a problem with Arnold. He is just the current flag representing the level of stupidity HR reeks of. The kid has always been tough as nails, but offensively limited. The idea the Iowa room could polish him into a multi time national champion was a ridiculous take made worse by the idea of winning as a freshman. A great HR stupidity example is well if Gabe could get down to 174 he could beat out last year's 4th place finisher then beat Levi. At no particular point in time has Arnold displayed the necessary skills to thonk he might beat out Kennedy, become an AA or have a prayer of beating Levi.
With that all said, I have no problem rooting for Gabe. The only time that will be doable is the Soldier Salute.
 
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Random4598375

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Goggles Paisano said:
Desmond creates a very interesting dilemma.

If one is being honest, assuming he can get to equal to or greater than Nagao, burning his shirt may make a lot of sense.

I am not a fan of undersized guys wrestling, it is usually limiting once you got top 4 type guys who can just horse you around. Mendez will be quite a challenge, due to ability alone, least a 5-10 lbs of walking around weight delta.

Positives

- I love what I see from this kid. He is wrestling well above true freshman expectations.

- Nagao is showing some of the same sloppy and a bit reckless tendencies as 2 years ago. He has it in him to be anywhere from a semi finalist to a blood round guy if he gets too 'creative'.

- when you think about it, redshirting Desmond next year may make more sense than this year. Unless Lilledahl or Blaze shirts, where does he fit with Ono going and we also have Davis in the mix?

Negatives

- he is a true freshman and will only get better waiting

- if he goes 141, then going back to 125 is a distant memory, even 133 next year might be in the rear view mirror. Ono likely drives him to 141 again next year anyway.

- Even with some weight gain, he will be naturally undersized at least for this season. It will likely bite him against some of the best

Net-net - I am pretty excited by the possibility. I would go with him from here forward, let him wrestleoff vs Nagao once he comes back. I have a sneaking suspicion he could win the slot. Then red shirt him next year.
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I'd rather keep him in RS. It was great to see him get a match and he may get another one or two, but there's a problem with leaving 125 behind for good. The thought was that Luke was never going to be a career 125, so if Luke goes up to 133 with Blaze and Ono already lurking, Desmond is going to have a hard time getting a spot at 133 or 141 or several years. We may need him at 125 to get to Sidun if Luke can't hold the weight. If he can't hold that weight either, next year at 125 may be a problem again with 4 guys at least high AA (and three world champion caliber wrestlers) for two spots at 133 and 141 next year.
 
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Random4598375 said:
I'd rather keep him in RS. It was great to see him get a match and he may get another one or two, but there's a problem with leaving 125 behind for good. The thought was that Luke was never going to be a career 125, so if Luke goes up to 133 with Blaze and Ono already lurking, Desmond is going to have a hard time getting a spot at 133 or 141 or several years. We may need him at 125 to get to Sidun if Luke can't hold the weight. If he can't hold that weight either, next year at 125 may be a problem again with 4 guys at least high AA (and three world champion caliber wrestlers) for two spots at 133 and 141 next year.
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Yeah.... felt like Desmond was in deep on a couple of takedowns Saturday and was not strong enough to finish it. Still he was the superior wrestler and found a way to win but he definitely struggled a little with the size and strength. Could he put that strength on by March? I think enough to be competitive and possibly be a low AA. But TBH...Desmond may be better than that and that would be unfair to him. I keep using a combo of Naseado and others until Nagao is back and let Desmond grow into 141 and give him a legit shot to compete. Still I dont see him in the room every day - So I trust what Cael, Cody and Casey come up with!
 
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Joejitsu said:
Yeah.... felt like Desmond was in deep on a couple of takedowns Saturday and was not strong enough to finish it. Still he was the superior wrestler and found a way to win but he definitely struggled a little with the size and strength. Could he put that strength on by March? I think enough to be competitive and possibly be a low AA. But TBH...Desmond may be better than that and that would be unfair to him. I keep using a combo of Naseado and others until Nagao is back and let Desmond grow into 141 and give him a legit shot to compete. Still I dont see him in the room every day - So I trust what Cael, Cody and Casey come up with!
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If he is going to wrestle 141 get the kid a Kasak cow.
 
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Sportfan2017 said:
Cool Interview. I know this may not be popular....but I like Gabe Arnold. I like his attitude and, after all he has been through, I will root for him. His decision to stay at Iowa has just increased my respect for him.....As long as he is not wrestling a PSU or former PSU guy or local Pennsylvania guy that is :) Yeah....I know that eliminates a bunch of quality wrestlers :).
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With you. I’ve heard he suffered at least one bout of severe depression, not the “having a bad day” variety. If it’s more than one, maybe all that bluster with Carter was a defense mechanism against persistent inner demons. Speculative, I know, but I do like seeing a smile on the kid’s face. Also fine with any future Lion opponent wiping it off after seven or so minutes.
 
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