I didn't listen to that segment of the show, but did hear the interview with the new MRA coach. Was Hall pissed because Bounds said that the new MRA coach could be or is the best developer of qb's in MS? I was told that Hall called into the show, and acted like an *** about Bo's comments, and took some shots at MRA.
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I didn't listen to that segment of the show, but did hear the interview with the new MRA coach. Was Hall pissed because Bounds said that the new MRA coach could be or is the best developer of qb's in MS? I was told that Hall called into the show, and acted like an *** about Bo's comments, and took some shots at MRA.
I didn't listen to that segment of the show, but did hear the interview with the new MRA coach. Was Hall pissed because Bounds said that the new MRA coach could be or is the best developer of qb's in MS? I was told that Hall called into the show, and acted like an *** about Bo's comments, and took some shots at MRA.
I didn't listen to that segment of the show, but did hear the interview with the new MRA coach. Was Hall pissed because Bounds said that the new MRA coach could be or is the best developer of qb's in MS? I was told that Hall called into the show, and acted like an *** about Bo's comments, and took some shots at MRA.
Hall basically took a shot at the private school system calling it a bump and giggle league, and wanted to know what this guy - this coach at MRA has done to be called a quarterbacks coach. I thought Hall was very bush league on this.
I played private school ball and have watch alot of public school ball. Really, the only difference I've seen between the two is the speed at which the game is played. Public school football, for the most part, is alot faster than private school, especially when you get up to 5 and 6A. So I don't necessarily agree with Hall calling it a "bump and giggle league".
love to hear themselves talk, but Bobby Hall is at the top of the list - with Lance Pogue a close second due to youth.
And they're both 100% unbiased when "arranging" trips for their boys..................yeah.
And they're both 100% unbiased when "arranging" trips for their boys..................yeah.
Some of the Private school fans are a bit delusional. I hear some JA fans and several Prep fans talk about how they try to schedule Madison Central but Hallis scared to play them.
I see a lot of public and private ball, Madison Central ain't sceered ofJA and Prep. It would not be pretty.
I see a lot of public and private ball, Madison Central ain't sceered ofJA and Prep. It would not be pretty.
As a former player at mc (I didnt play for bobby) I absolutely cannot stand bobby hall's egotistical, arrogant ***. He is an embarrasment. What kind of coach calls in to a sports talk radio show because he got sandy ***? The big thing that irks me about his call is the way he belittled the kids at mra.There are kids that know they wont play college ball and are bustin there *** for the love of the game and for there teamates, and for bobby hall to cheapen that is garbage. He should have been a man and called back and apologized to the kids.
until MRA started beating or almost beating every public school they've played the past few years. As the public and private schools play more and more (i.e. Prep v Pearl, MRA v Yazoo City and Canton) that tired old argument will fade away. Yes Madison Central would beat the **** out of MRA next year and most years, but MC will get the **** beat out of them by South Panola next year too. Whoopty Doo. MRA would have run MC out of the gym the past 3 years. Who cares. They don't play each other and probably wont until each team feel like they can compete with the other.
first offense. His offenses have always been run oriented, like 70-30 run to pass ratio, and I might be generous with that. The audacity of Hall to call in and act like an *** over a subject that he truly has had no success in since he began his career is complete and utter ignorance on his part! 8dog is right though, his best 2 qb's were former academy boys.
Madison Central has 2100 students attending, much more kids to pull from for athletics, but yet still can't beat USP at LEAST one time. Meridian did that, oh wait, that's because they had a really good qb!! Hall needs to stfu and win a title at MC, and not worry about poor, poor little MRA and their new coach.
Madison Central has 2100 students attending, much more kids to pull from for athletics, but yet still can't beat USP at LEAST one time. Meridian did that, oh wait, that's because they had a really good qb!! Hall needs to stfu and win a title at MC, and not worry about poor, poor little MRA and their new coach.
He had a pretty decent QB last fall and still couldn't get Singleton the ball in the first Northwest Rankin game. Has Bobby Hall ever had a QB go on to do much of anything after HS, other than his son? And even he was Div. II, which isn't bad but isn't really anything to brag about either.
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Richard Duweese is the best recruiter in the state and I haven't seen MRA beat Lanier or Meridian. I'm no apologist for Madison Central, but I see 20 high school football games a year. MC would punk Prep. Everybody gets punked by South Panola, they were the best team in the US last year.
If MC or South Panola recruit you at least have to move there (or have a relative there) for your kid to transfer, MRA doesn't have that burden. This is why Private schools in Alabama have their enrollment multiplied by 1.5 for classification purposes.
I'm all for the small schools and the MAIS. I hate that you have to be a pituitary freak to play high school ball at the big schools. But don't tell me that Prep/MRAwill evercompete with MC in football. It ain't happening.
Richard Duweese is the best recruiter in the state and I haven't seen MRA beat Lanier or Meridian. I'm no apologist for Madison Central, but I see 20 high school football games a year. MC would punk Prep. Everybody gets punked by South Panola, they were the best team in the US last year.
If MC or South Panola recruit you at least have to move there (or have a relative there) for your kid to transfer, MRA doesn't have that burden. This is why Private schools in Alabama have their enrollment multiplied by 1.5 for classification purposes.
I'm all for the small schools and the MAIS. I hate that you have to be a pituitary freak to play high school ball at the big schools. But don't tell me that Prep/MRAwill evercompete with MC in football. It ain't happening.
Yes, MC would kill MRA and beat Prep. My point is, and probably poorly made, as the private schools will grow from asegregationbased system to a place to get a better education, the ability gap between public and private schools in the metro Jackson area will narrow. Watching my son play for MRA in a basketball tournament in Memphis this year brought that point home. Christian Brothers, and other Memphis private schools, had as good of a high school team as i have ever seen and they would have beaten any Jackson public school, and there were a few inner city Memphis kids who wanted a world class education and play basketball that starred in each of those schools. That same scenario will evolve in Jackson metro with Prep, St. Joe, St. Andrews, JA and MRA, IMHO.
boys that understand the game, play the game hard, very fundamentally sound on both ends because they have a damn
good coach. They have travelled to FL, IN, TX, and LA to play in tournaments involving public schools and have been successful in those tourneys. They can very easily compete in public school ball.
As for football, pretty sure that it would get ugly. Outside of their district, who does MC play and win against? Their district is Vicksburg, Clinton, NW Rankin, and another nobody. When you look at all the resources and size of MC, they underachieve in football and basketball. Baseball they are not bad, but private school can easily compete with public school.
By the way, in basketball, if it was all about talent and skin color, Duke would never win a NC. Lanier, Murrah any of them would have a hard time against MRA due to them actually having to play defense against set plays, and running through screens, instead of the street ball that they play.
good coach. They have travelled to FL, IN, TX, and LA to play in tournaments involving public schools and have been successful in those tourneys. They can very easily compete in public school ball.
As for football, pretty sure that it would get ugly. Outside of their district, who does MC play and win against? Their district is Vicksburg, Clinton, NW Rankin, and another nobody. When you look at all the resources and size of MC, they underachieve in football and basketball. Baseball they are not bad, but private school can easily compete with public school.
By the way, in basketball, if it was all about talent and skin color, Duke would never win a NC. Lanier, Murrah any of them would have a hard time against MRA due to them actually having to play defense against set plays, and running through screens, instead of the street ball that they play.
Very different sports. Private school teams that can play with the big programs in football are few and far between. Having to field(court) 5 guys > having to field around 30.
parents still live in NE Jackson, but somehow his mother got a job with MC in "administration" in which she had an office. She never had to come to work, actually her *** never met the seat in her office. One more thing to add, USP recruits kids outside their district.
but the gap in football will continue to narrow over the years, but MC will probably always beat the private schools, as they will beat almost everyone else in the area.
That is my point as well. Duweese is the best recruiter in high school ballwhich is why his teams are good. I tried defending Duweese to people to give him the benefit of the doubt on the receuiting issue. Adad whose kidsplay for MRAtold me differently.
Your scenario of education will work versus the Jackson Public Schools but not for the Madison Public Schools, the test scores say differently.
To underscore an earlier point of why I like MAIS schools and small public school ball, I know a guy who was an offensive lineman for messiah Manning at UMiss. He said he weighed 200 lbs. I hate it that you have to be a pituatary freak to play high school ball at big schools. Sadly as MAIS schools (and St. Andrews, St. Stanilaus, etc.) start recruiting, they will end up on a similar path.
Your scenario of education will work versus the Jackson Public Schools but not for the Madison Public Schools, the test scores say differently.
To underscore an earlier point of why I like MAIS schools and small public school ball, I know a guy who was an offensive lineman for messiah Manning at UMiss. He said he weighed 200 lbs. I hate it that you have to be a pituatary freak to play high school ball at big schools. Sadly as MAIS schools (and St. Andrews, St. Stanilaus, etc.) start recruiting, they will end up on a similar path.
RD has basketball camps each summer and goes to watch kids play at public schools and "recruits" the good players to come to MRA. Is that a bad thing? His instruction to the new football coach was basically this same thing: get out there and recruit. And that's why the old coach got run off; he wouldn't recruit or was too lazy to.
Agreed. But since MRA kids don't have to move residence that gives MRA a leg up. That is why I think Alabama is correct to multiply the private school attendance by 1.5 for classification purposes if the join the public school league. But your point is well taken. If it isn't illegal, go for it.
Of course the Alabama deal is a moot point since I don't think MRA or JA plan to leave the MAIS. Who knows aboutPrep?!
Of course the Alabama deal is a moot point since I don't think MRA or JA plan to leave the MAIS. Who knows aboutPrep?!
It is the size and speed especially in 6-A, but I agree with you about Halls attitude. NWR beat him at MC in 06 when his QB was out because he was jucing. The Baxter and his brother were doing the game and complained bitterely that they would have won with their enhanced QB, but he did not play defese!
clocked by good teams when it counts. I have been watching Hall's teams for a few years now and they strike me as "soft". He has had alot of talent but his teams don't kick your teeth in and he hasn't got a 17ing clue about how to develop a quarterback. I have a young son that I am trying to teach the art of quarterbacking and Bobby Hall would be near the bottom of the list of coaches I would want him to play for. The guy at MRA is an innovator and supposedly a great coach. Germantown HS came very close to giving the MRA guy the job when they did their hire. It is also interesting to see the number of coaches and teachers leaving MC to go to Germantown which I think might tell you how some of them feel about the leadership at MC both in sports and academics.
alot of the teams on MC's schedule and I would go as far to say they would beat all the public schools in Jackson. They are just so much more organized, conditioned, and better coached than the Jackson public school teams which have some great individual player but are terrible teams.
of producing next level qb's. A lot of it has to do with the fact that the high schools have been totally dedicated to the running game, and the reason is that there really are no coaches that know how to truly develop a qb. Keswic Joyner (Joiner) from Moss Point in '87 signed with Minnesota...played wr, Romero Miller, OM, more athlete then qb, Todd Jordan, MSU...all SEC punter, Tyler Russell, MSU...undecided. Brett Farve, enough said. Outside of Brett, Shane Matthews is the only true qb out of MS that was really successful outside of HS.
Regardless of public or private school preferences, no one in either is doing much to help the cause of the qb. This state produces athletes...skill position players, linemen, and defensive players, but not qb's. For Bobby Hall to question any coach in this state on their ability to develop a qb, regardless of classification, when he has never done it is 17ing beyond stupid, it's borderline insane. I'm actually agreeing with Bo Bounds on this subject!
Regardless of public or private school preferences, no one in either is doing much to help the cause of the qb. This state produces athletes...skill position players, linemen, and defensive players, but not qb's. For Bobby Hall to question any coach in this state on their ability to develop a qb, regardless of classification, when he has never done it is 17ing beyond stupid, it's borderline insane. I'm actually agreeing with Bo Bounds on this subject!
A small school is much more capable of finding 5 good basketball players than finding 30 good football players. It is the exact same reason that a lot of small schools compete just fine in basketball on a national level but not in football.
Northwest Rankin and Clinton are the only two that could beat them, the rest of the district is a joke and the non-district schedule was a joke. In fairness, MC has beefed up the schedule for next season. Olive Branch, Starkville, Petal and West Monroe. Of course the district is still mostly a joke.
I think Bobby is worried because now there is someone that is better at developing QB's in town than him- which really isn't that hard, which is going to hurt recruiting.
Why the MC administration won't do anything about him is beyond me- other than he hasn't slept with Mike Kent's wife- at least that Mike Kent is aware of.
At least Todd Mangum is there, and the sooner he takes over the better. I agree with Thick- MC could be up there with South Panola and beat them some with a competent head coach that isn't a complete joke.
Why the MC administration won't do anything about him is beyond me- other than he hasn't slept with Mike Kent's wife- at least that Mike Kent is aware of.
At least Todd Mangum is there, and the sooner he takes over the better. I agree with Thick- MC could be up there with South Panola and beat them some with a competent head coach that isn't a complete joke.
a great QB developer. I just find it strange thata pretty solid QB Stewart Summers has transferred to Pearl for this next season and didn't stick around at MRA to be "further developed".
the sad truth is that they were formed for one reason and hopefully are past that, but until they get out of the private school league, the stigma will always be there. And yes, there are still academies in said private league who are still very racist, although I don't thing that Prep and JA are.
For the record, I played public school football ball before and after integration. There is no comparison between the speed of the game, the physical play and the athleticism of the skill players.
For the record, I played public school football ball before and after integration. There is no comparison between the speed of the game, the physical play and the athleticism of the skill players.
some of the QB's the man has had and NOT ONE has ever went on to have any significiant impact as a QB at the college level.....
Yes, his son was the DII Harlan Hill winner but he wasn't DI talent....Chris Rainey was prolly the best high school QB of his that I have witnessed and he was an athlete playing QB and played RB at State......Brad Petersen at Louisville was good but again, he hasn't put a QB in the DI ranks that has made a significant contribution and he's put few QB's in college football, period...
Yes, his son was the DII Harlan Hill winner but he wasn't DI talent....Chris Rainey was prolly the best high school QB of his that I have witnessed and he was an athlete playing QB and played RB at State......Brad Petersen at Louisville was good but again, he hasn't put a QB in the DI ranks that has made a significant contribution and he's put few QB's in college football, period...
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