Perfect CFP Scenario

OG Goat Holder

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I hate ole miss, but if they leave a one loss SEC team out of the playoffs, then the committee needs to be disbanded
Should have been disbanded after Florida State was left out. Coaching situation or personnel situation should not matter. That was utterly ridiculous.

Tennessee and FSU played once, I think the Tee Martin year, and FSU had Weinke go down and had to play with the backup, which directly led to Tennessee winning. Who cares? That's how it is. Maybe we should bring back the BCS computers.
 

Perd Hapley

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I simply reject the hypothesis that states he has to leave or stay before the CFP.

There’s no chance that he gets to the CFP and then just decides he doesn’t want to stick around and see that through. There’s also no chance that LSU or UF will demand a PUBLIC final answer from him before OM is eliminated from the CFP. They will allow him to finish his historic season, if that’s what he wants.

I still think a likely scenario that happens is Kiffin announces he’s taking whatever job, but still agrees to remain at OM through their CFP run. There’s no reason why this can’t happen. Mullen did this with us when UF was in the national championship. That’s the best outcome for all parties.
 
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patdog

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I hate ole miss, but if they leave a one loss SEC team out of the playoffs, then the committee needs to be disbanded
They won't leave a 1-loss SEC team out. But they might leave a 2-loss team out if their coach is leaving. We'll never know though, cause UMiss won't have 2 losses unless they make the SECCG.
 

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This is just a fever dream. It won't happen for a variety of reasons.

The only scenario you should allow yourself to consider is we beat them and somehow they drop far enough to miss the CFP. However unlikely, that is the only way they miss it.
 

Perd Hapley

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This is just a fever dream. It won't happen for a variety of reasons.

The only scenario you should allow yourself to consider is we beat them and somehow they drop far enough to miss the CFP. However unlikely, that is the only way they miss it.
I think your scenario is even more unlikely than the fever dream.
 

Willow Grove Dawg

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This is just a fever dream. It won't happen for a variety of reasons.

The only scenario you should allow yourself to consider is we beat them and somehow they drop far enough to miss the CFP. However unlikely, that is the only way they miss it.
I understand that this ain't happening, but I do enjoy the misery such speculation from a reputable (allegedly) journalist brings to our friends.
 
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hdogg

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I mean, the best case is a direct meteor strike on Oxford they day after playoff teams are announced... but I like this idea as well.
 
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OG Goat Holder

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I simply reject the hypothesis that states he has to leave or stay before the CFP.

There’s no chance that he gets to the CFP and then just decides he doesn’t want to stick around and see that through. There’s also no chance that LSU or UF will demand a PUBLIC final answer from him before OM is eliminated from the CFP. They will allow him to finish his historic season, if that’s what he wants.

I still think a likely scenario that happens is Kiffin announces he’s taking whatever job, but still agrees to remain at OM through their CFP run. There’s no reason why this can’t happen. Mullen did this with us when UF was in the national championship. That’s the best outcome for all parties.
I agree this can happen, however it's not happened yet with a head coach. Of course we've never had this situation either, mainly because the title game or 4-teamer coaches usually weren't looking around. I guess Les Miles to Michigan is the closest one to it actually happening.

It will probably become more commonplace, especially with the portal not opening until January. Even though we all know folks will be crootin in December.
 
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I simply reject the hypothesis that states he has to leave or stay before the CFP.

There’s no chance that he gets to the CFP and then just decides he doesn’t want to stick around and see that through. There’s also no chance that LSU or UF will demand a PUBLIC final answer from him before OM is eliminated from the CFP. They will allow him to finish his historic season, if that’s what he wants.

I still think a likely scenario that happens is Kiffin announces he’s taking whatever job, but still agrees to remain at OM through their CFP run. There’s no reason why this can’t happen. Mullen did this with us when UF was in the national championship. That’s the best outcome for all parties.
I think that's right because I think he has enough leverage to do that. But whichever boosters are about to pony up to allow the school to commit presumably something like $40M a year between salary and NIL are going to want him recruiting and working the portal, not preparing for another team to play in the playoffs. Aside from Lane having the leverage, I also think it's a reasonably easy story to sell that Kiffin in the playoffs, particularly if he advances, makes his recruiting easier going forward.
 

OG Goat Holder

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This is just a fever dream. It won't happen for a variety of reasons.

The only scenario you should allow yourself to consider is we beat them and somehow they drop far enough to miss the CFP. However unlikely, that is the only way they miss it.
I still say there's a good chance they drop out if they lose to us. They are 6 now. If Oregon wins out they jump them, so now at 7. Bama wins SEC title, now down to 8. BYU could win out and lose in B12 title, and say GT wins out (beating Georgia) and loses the SEC to Miami. Now you're at 10 and being compared with a lot of 2 loss teams. Gets sketchy.

The Lane distraction could get bigger at that time too. Perhaps he goes ahead and leaves early rather than going on the road for the playoff. I mean at that point he'd own the "I got them to the playoff" mantra. So who cares about actually playing in it when you're likely losing on the road. If he does, the committee will 17 them FSU style no matter how much I think that's a shltty move.
 

Tractorman

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Everyone assumes they make the cfp with 2 losses. Would their resume be any better than the other 2 loss teams in the hunt. Probably not good enough to be top 10 with a loss to 6-6 MSU and only one win vs current top 25. I think if they lose the Egg, they are out.
 
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dickiedawg

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Please Sweet Baby Jesus!


There’s a massive difference between snubbing a team because they lost their coach vs because they lost their QB.

There’s also a difference between snubbing a team out of a 4 team playoff and a 12-team playoff. They snubbed a team that the eye test told them didn’t have a chance to win the championship (without its QB) essentially to avoid the choice between two teams that they thought could. That was basically a convenient excuse because they didn’t think FSU was good enough anyway.

I don’t think there’s much chance of Kiffin actually not coaching them in the playoff, but leaving them out on the basis of that would be completely nonsensical. It would be a horrible precedent- actually I don’t even know what the precedent would be other than “the committee just does whatever the hell it wants”. There’s no way they do that to the SEC, either.
 

dickiedawg

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Everyone assumes they make the cfp with 2 losses. Would their resume be any better than the other 2 loss teams in the hunt. Probably not good enough to be top 10 with a loss to 6-6 MSU and only one win vs current top 25. I think if they lose the Egg, they are out.
I’m not sure everyone assumes that. I don’t assume that.
Imagine the meltdown if their spot got taken by Oklahoma- their only real resume win.
 

Perd Hapley

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I agree this can happen, however it's not happened yet with a head coach. Of course we've never had this situation either, mainly because the title game or 4-teamer coaches usually weren't looking around. I guess Les Miles to Michigan is the closest one to it actually happening.

It will probably become more commonplace, especially with the portal not opening until January. Even though we all know folks will be crootin in December.
Correct. It not having happened before with a HC is largely due to there being no incentive before. So that’s not really relevant. In BCS and 4-team CFP, there was never a coach that was at a historical have-not program that had a chance to upgrade his position substantially by taking another job….because you had to be pretty much at the mountaintop already just to get that far. Only exception was DeBoer, but he bolted afterwards because Saban didn’t retire until after the CFP.

I mean we’re in an era where James Franklin is coaching in the B1G in October and in the ACC in mid-November. Everything is unprecedented these days.
 
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Perd Hapley

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I think that's right because I think he has enough leverage to do that. But whichever boosters are about to pony up to allow the school to commit presumably something like $40M a year between salary and NIL are going to want him recruiting and working the portal, not preparing for another team to play in the playoffs.
He’ll be able to do both. This part of it is no different than when an OC promotes to HC but stays with old program through title game (Re: Mullen)

Aside from Lane having the leverage, I also think it's a reasonably easy story to sell that Kiffin in the playoffs, particularly if he advances, makes his recruiting easier going forward.

Exactly correct. Lane staying with OM and advancing through the playoffs helps sell both OM and Florida/LSU. Everybody wins. Both schools lose that opportunity if he bolts and Pete Golding gets his asś beat by Miami or Notre Dame or Utah or something.
 

Villagedawg

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I simply reject the hypothesis that states he has to leave or stay before the CFP.

There’s no chance that he gets to the CFP and then just decides he doesn’t want to stick around and see that through. There’s also no chance that LSU or UF will demand a PUBLIC final answer from him before OM is eliminated from the CFP. They will allow him to finish his historic season, if that’s what he wants.

I still think a likely scenario that happens is Kiffin announces he’s taking whatever job, but still agrees to remain at OM through their CFP run. There’s no reason why this can’t happen. Mullen did this with us when UF was in the national championship. That’s the best outcome for all parties.
You think Ole Miss will leave him with direct access to their players knowing he is moving to Florida and the portal about to open?
 

Perd Hapley

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You think Ole Miss will leave him with direct access to their players knowing he is moving to Florida and the portal about to open?
Of course they will. They want to win a national title, don’t they?

And do you not think he has every player’s number / facebook / X / instagram / SnapChat / TikTok in his phone already? Do you really think he’d have no way to reach them if he left right now for Gainesville?
 

Villagedawg

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And do you not think he has every player’s number / facebook / X / instagram / SnapChat / TikTok in his phone already? Do you really think he’d have no way to reach them if he left right now for Gainesville?
Yes, but there is a difference in that and being with someone every day.
 

Called3rdstrikedawg

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There’s a massive difference between snubbing a team because they lost their coach vs because they lost their QB.

There’s also a difference between snubbing a team out of a 4 team playoff and a 12-team playoff. They snubbed a team that the eye test told them didn’t have a chance to win the championship (without its QB) essentially to avoid the choice between two teams that they thought could. That was basically a convenient excuse because they didn’t think FSU was good enough anyway.

I don’t think there’s much chance of Kiffin actually not coaching them in the playoff, but leaving them out on the basis of that would be completely nonsensical. It would be a horrible precedent- actually I don’t even know what the precedent would be other than “the committee just does whatever the hell it wants”. There’s no way they do that to the SEC, either.
It would be akin to leaving a 11-1 Mississippi State team out of the playoffs because….. “well they are still Mississippi State”