At this point in the season every team can talk about missing starters. I just found out Phillips was missing at least 4 starters due to injury. LT, DE, a 6'2" CB, and their RB who is also all state material. I was wondering why a freshman was starting at LT.
Phillips 22 Herscher 13 half
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Phillips played better Than Herscher and won the game. Personal attack? Now we are into name calling? Ah so much what I expect
How much thought did it take you to see a team won by 19 and come to the conclusion that they played better??? They are getting kids from the entire south side of the city, they better be able to play better..
We were picked by many to finish 4th in the conference, we ended up possibly being 4th best team in 4A.. I am just happy to see the program heading in the right direction.
I knew they were better before they took the field. Do all Herscher fines whine constantly about how unfair life in HS sports is?
I didn't know that pulling kids from that football rich area of the south side of Chicago made for such an uneven playing field.
Good luck to Herscher in the future hopefully somewhere over the rainbow they can find themselves what they deem to be an even playing field.
I didn't know that pulling kids from that football rich area of the south side of Chicago made for such an uneven playing field.
Good luck to Herscher in the future hopefully somewhere over the rainbow they can find themselves what they deem to be an even playing field.
Well one school draws from a population base of somewhere between 10-20K.. the other one can draw from 2.7M.... thats an even playing field????
At least the other no boundary schools have a multiplier...
All I want is a level playing field, which is the way it should be in high school athletics.. no idea why that seems to be an issue.. We have a defined area we get kids from, comparable to the rest of 4A publics.. Phillips also has a defined boundary, but they are allowed to get kids from outside of it..
Is that all you do is complain. when the other CPS schools are losing you say how bad they all are but when one beats your team you complain . you can't have it both ways . Pick a lane
Interesting logic, if 1 of the 70 4A teams can beat them, their advantage is ok
That lane would be to not load up one team, play with the kids in your defined boundary like the rest of the publics do... OR, let the other public schools cherry pick kids from other schools like Phillips is allowed to do
So far Phillips is 50% losing to Rochester (public) and beating Althoff (Private). Rochester (a public school) won 5 in a row yet Phillips win last year (basically because Althoff survived Rochester) and now they have some type of advantage. What will be your claim if Rochester beat Phillips again if they both make it?
Last I looked Rochester isnt allowed to play kids that live in another school district... IHSA change that rule??
All.... They do it the old fashioned way just move into the district. Have been for years.... Ratsy
I think I'm a somewhat impartial observer, but it looks like you guys are going way out of your way to put Herscher on blast.
Nobody gave them a sniff, and they were in the game going into the 4th quarter. HHSTigerfan may be a hard pill to swallow, but fact is that Herscher kids represented themselves quite well against a stacked team.
I understand that you guy's don't like HHStigerfan, but that is clouding your judgement on the merit of how good Herscher actually was this year.
It's not Phillips fault the IHSA put them in 4A just like it's not ICCP fault they are in 3A.
Nobody gave them a sniff, and they were in the game going into the 4th quarter. HHSTigerfan may be a hard pill to swallow, but fact is that Herscher kids represented themselves quite well against a stacked team.
I understand that you guy's don't like HHStigerfan, but that is clouding your judgement on the merit of how good Herscher actually was this year.
It's not Phillips fault the IHSA put them in 4A just like it's not ICCP fault they are in 3A.
Never said they could. They have to play what the bus drop off and they had no issue with beating phillips therefore there is no advantage.
My only issue is the word "stacked team". They may be a good team but I disagree with stacked.
Okay let me know if you need an oxygen mask because your head is obviously buried n the sand.
Really, I can take that. Just because they beat Herscher doesn't change my opinion of stacked or not. Actually as I think about it, your point of view is different from mine and I shouldn't be commenting.
Then stop commenting. From where I am sitting, common knowledge was that Phillips was gonna be clocking Herscher by halftime. That didn't happen because Herscher is actually pretty good. Don't let your disdain for one jagbag from Herscher, IL cloud your judgement because it makes you a douche too. All the private school circle jerkers will applaud you here, so at least you still have that going for you.
Kinda difficult to applaud him with two hands at the moment. Later, maybe.
Truth.
Will be interesting to see how Rochester handles Phillips. Herscher's pass game did a number on Phillips... I'd expect Rochester to take advantage there.
Record in the playoffs
Phillips 3-0, with several transfers and kids that live outside of the defined boundary..
Rest of CPS ..0-16
In the last 3 years they have had 13 D1 kids if the coach I talked to was correct..
I feel pretty confident the 12 schools that make up the I-8 havent had 13 D1 kids combined in the last 20 years..
Should be a great game.. I think Herscher's defense is better than Rochesters.. Rochester has the better offense, great coaching, but dont have a 6'8" kid to throw the ball up to.. Our problem was we gave them a short field 3 times and they scored all 3 times..
Jimmys and Joes can beat X's and O's. Not saying there is any substandard coaching but look at 3A.
What HHS alluded to about D1 players... They kinda make a difference a little bit, methinks. Maybe hall of fame coaches Jeff Reents and Cully Welter forgot the game when they play IC but both are gonna get beat by 35 plus points.
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So? They are not getting typical 4A talent.. they have found out they can go to Phillips instead of the larger CPS schools and win a state title.. Same kids rather play Kewanee, Aurora Central Catholic, Herscher and Johnsburg than Mt Carmel round 1 and be done...
First I am a public school guy and two no one that knows anything about football would have said that Phillips would clock Herscher, and underrated team at home, by halftime. Anybody that has playoff experience knows that kids will get pumped and pour their heart into winning a ball game. That being said, I don't care how good or bad Hersher is. My comments are about Phillips and pointing out the fact that they aren't as good as your supporter is making them out to be. Maybe it may feel better if they were that good but in reality they are not. The are one of the top 4A schools this year and that is where it stops to me. They are not world better by no stretch. Now if you want them to be to add credibility to your team, so be it. Have at it. I am curious as to how Rochester will handle Phillips if they both make it.
D-1 kids do not equal good ball players. I know a 4 star kid that couldn't play a lick of football but was 6-2 and could run. Played in the Army All American game too.
I understand it makes a difference; even this idiot with 4 eyes can figure that out; but there is nothing anyone can do about it except get better and hopefully play a perfect game and win. I was talking to Wilmington people when they beat Byron and even they expected to get killed unless Wilmington played perfect. Obviously that did not happen as ICCP won handily. Seriously it happens ICCP won't be great every year and Phillips and Rochester seem to be on a collision course every year it seems in 4A and now it's up to other schools to stop whining and do something about it.
Well the 9 D1 kids they had on last years roster won the state title 51-7, so they seem to know how to play the game..
Yes and they beat a team that had 9 D1 kids on it 51-7. So it worked well for one but not the other.
I will also add that the teams that didn't have any D1 players gave Phillips a much better game than Althoff.
Yet the rest of the CPS schools are lucky to get their cleats laced up properly...