The couple of ounces for a body cam?[eyeroll]
Police Body Cameras
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The couple of ounces for a body cam?[eyeroll]
Yeah, I mean it is not like the job is hard now. Everyone must be beating down the door to get in.
yeah, I am not just talking about pounds. You ever strapped on a uniform of any kind that required extra equipment?
They should just equip civilians like Bigblewsean to fly drones around and spy on the police when they are not checking out the next door neighbors daughter. Drones will show the real story and are much more effective than a body cam. I'm sure he could get the police some sweet deals on some kick *** drones
So you are talking about size then? The couple inch by couple inch body cams are too big in dimensions?
Do you really know weight, size, and wires or whatever else it takes to implement that? Added to all of the other things they wear? I am not opposed to cameras per say but, even the little things in numbers adds up.
It took about five minutes to read several sites that had comparisons of police provided/issued body cam specs, so I guess my answer to your question is yes. Didn't spend a lot of time beyond that because,well, I can't imagine there would be much variance beyond a civilian go-pro even.
As far as "little things in numbers add up" aren't we just talking about whether one body cam is too much or not? Not sure why you or others keep talking about all the other things cops carry.
Yeah they already have too much to carry around the belt to add anymore unnecessary equipment.
I truly respect law enforcement officers. It's perhaps the toughest job in America. Some of my closest friends, even my brother, put their lives on the line everyday to protect us. They keep us safe, and there's nothing more important. We all owe them a debt of gratitude that's beyond measure.
For that reason, we need to do whatever we can to make sure that they can do their jobs as safely and as efficiently as possible.
That's why it's extremely important to keep in mind the research and statistics about the overall impact of body cameras in reducing use of force incidents and civilian complaints. Over time, the certainty and accountability that comes from everyone knowing that their actions are being recorded will do more to reduce violence against officers than anything we've attempted since the 1960s.
Also, I truly hope no one accepts the proposition that the additional weight of the camera somehow suggests that we shouldn't implement the policy. Regardless of the added burden, which is slight, we're at a point where body cameras must become a part of the standard uniform for law enforcement officers.
The technology is widely available, and everyone knows it. At this point, people are extremely suspicious if there's a shooting during a traffic stop or other police encounter that isn't recorded. Why? Because we're all walking around with technology in our pockets or purses that is more than capable of doing the job.
I just wish people could move beyond arguing about why it shouldn't happen. It's going to happen. There's truly no way around it. And it's a good thing for all of us.
Given their special role in society and their authority over others, the law requires us to keep track of the actions of law enforcement officers during their encounters with the public. Always remember, the Constitution itself is the supreme law of the land. That includes the Bill of Rights and all its protections for citizens against the power of the government. The police are that power. There's nothing more, dare I say, conservative than supporting policies like this one that provide some protection for individuals against the overwhelming power of the state.
For that reason, we need to do whatever we can to make sure that they can do their jobs as safely and as efficiently as possible.
That's why it's extremely important to keep in mind the research and statistics about the overall impact of body cameras in reducing use of force incidents and civilian complaints. Over time, the certainty and accountability that comes from everyone knowing that their actions are being recorded will do more to reduce violence against officers than anything we've attempted since the 1960s.
Also, I truly hope no one accepts the proposition that the additional weight of the camera somehow suggests that we shouldn't implement the policy. Regardless of the added burden, which is slight, we're at a point where body cameras must become a part of the standard uniform for law enforcement officers.
The technology is widely available, and everyone knows it. At this point, people are extremely suspicious if there's a shooting during a traffic stop or other police encounter that isn't recorded. Why? Because we're all walking around with technology in our pockets or purses that is more than capable of doing the job.
I just wish people could move beyond arguing about why it shouldn't happen. It's going to happen. There's truly no way around it. And it's a good thing for all of us.
Given their special role in society and their authority over others, the law requires us to keep track of the actions of law enforcement officers during their encounters with the public. Always remember, the Constitution itself is the supreme law of the land. That includes the Bill of Rights and all its protections for citizens against the power of the government. The police are that power. There's nothing more, dare I say, conservative than supporting policies like this one that provide some protection for individuals against the overwhelming power of the state.
We have wrist watch sized computers why can't we do the same for police armaments.
Police should be issued guns that only fire for the registered user and linked to a body cam when it's removed from the holster or safety is off.
Police should be issued guns that only fire for the registered user and linked to a body cam when it's removed from the holster or safety is off.
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We have wrist watch sized computers why can't we do the same for police armaments.
Police should be issued guns that only fire for the registered user and linked to a body cam when it's removed from the holster or safety is off.
Let's go ahead stick cable jumpers on their testicles and monitor them in live time.
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They are just another thing to hinder the persons mobility. Their job is not just to stand there and write tickets. Altercations are a very real thing for a police officer. They should not be bulked up, wrapped up, suited with so much crap that their safety is jeopardized. And all for what, so the public can second guess everything they do?
Again, tell me how a two to four ounce, several inch item hinders mobility and jeapordizes safety?
Everyone has a computer in their pocket at this point in history that is capable of HD video better than what was on primetime tv 5 years ago.
Uniformed police should be required to wear bodycams. Arguments about weight or psyche or whatever are ******** and trivial.
Policing might honestly be the most important job in America (I'll give doctors a nod) and there is a simple, cheap, and easy tool that provides accountability to everyone: cops and the public.
It is ******** that anyone is opposed to this and I question the motives of anyone opposed.
Uniformed police should be required to wear bodycams. Arguments about weight or psyche or whatever are ******** and trivial.
Policing might honestly be the most important job in America (I'll give doctors a nod) and there is a simple, cheap, and easy tool that provides accountability to everyone: cops and the public.
It is ******** that anyone is opposed to this and I question the motives of anyone opposed.
Anyone surprised by warrior-cat and JohnBlue's position on body cams?
Not me. I think those two would welcome a body cavity search if delivered by a man in uniform.
Not me. I think those two would welcome a body cavity search if delivered by a man in uniform.
How much does the latex glove weigh? Or are you figuring they'd opt for the girlfriend experience?
I just did. Look, I know you don't agree but I've more than made my point. If it doesn't provide direct body protection then it's not needed.
Those things are not as small as you assume imo.
It's like. As soon as you put on the uniform that you are automatically disqualified from accountability. Well, the good news. Warrior and JohnBlue's opinion on this isn't really relevant. Soon every officer in America will be required to wear them, because the majority of society wants them on cops. It will happen.
Aren't cams already standard in most places. I know we already had one "the officers camera was not working at the time 
". If they're in fn lexington, I assume they are in most places.
". If they're in fn lexington, I assume they are in most places.
For you I would like to see it happen. Perhaps then they might help you get that bucket off of your head so you can see what is going on in the world.
I just did. Look, I know you don't agree but I've more than made my point. If it doesn't provide direct body protection then it's not needed.
Those things are not as small as you assume imo.
What are you talking about?
Maybe that officer needs a radio that isn't 15 pounds and to stop wearing her mags as a belt buckle but seriously, what are you talking about?
and **** all cruisers have them...
This is *classic* govt creating a BS solution to a BS problem to pacify gullible *** voters.
This is *classic* govt creating a BS solution to a BS problem to pacify gullible *** voters.
I am not opposed but as has been mentioned by several people the storage and archiving of data to federal requirements is not cheap at all. And the vast majority of municipalities have little to no IT talent to manage it all. Way more complicated than people are making it out to be.
I'll feel really extra safe when I see this on the streets.
I'll give you that. Warehousing the data is currently a *****, but that is literally the only hiccup.
Put cams on cops. End of story.
That they carry too much crap already. What is the justification for adding more?
Lmao....yep
I would think dash cams would be very useful in these instances? Where are they? Not to mention city cams. Unreal the tech we have.
I get the emotions. Cops/govt are ********. That's why you don't give them more money/power. Period.
yeah, its more than a hiccup. Public sector processes and lack IT talent is a major problem which is why they have such antiquated systems and are more prone to cyberattacks.
To increase the ability to review their behavior and to make policing more transparent, of course.
You aren't that dumb. At least own up to your schtick.
Do we not have video from all these instances? I've personally seen a lot of them. They charlotte or Tulsa one will be released eventually. I've seen a frame. It looked like a gun.
Better, more practical, duh idea: get your own dam camera and wear it. Get a drone to follow you around, too. You scared the cameras we already have everywhere ain't gonna capture the moment when a cop kills your white *** then protect yourself I guess. You know cops don't protect ****, so why in the world would you trust them with cams/witnessing your death? They won't help you.
Better, more practical, duh idea: get your own dam camera and wear it. Get a drone to follow you around, too. You scared the cameras we already have everywhere ain't gonna capture the moment when a cop kills your white *** then protect yourself I guess. You know cops don't protect ****, so why in the world would you trust them with cams/witnessing your death? They won't help you.
good grief, back to my point of lack of IT skills in the public sector. Those cops will be generating a **** ton or archive mandated data every single day and most cities don't have techs capable to keep it running. And if/when they get knowledgable they get hired away. Plus all the mandates require administrative personal to follow federal rules. The camera is the very easy, cheap part.
Yup. And the warehousing the data is the hard part. Got it.
But what do cyberattacks have to do with whether or not uniformed cops should have mandated body cams?
Your a idiot Wes. Couple servers in the closet next to the ******* should suffice.
Added bonus that if you use one you can delete cop shooting folks clips and videos you don't like and be immune from prosecution, so there's that.
public sector gets more cyberattacks because they generally have antiquated systems and lack of talent to manage them.
and.... I am amazed you know how to turn on a computer.
My point, which you are missing either from ignorance or trolling, is that the main challenge to body cams is the ongoing cost and staffing to manage the data and regulation processes. The cyberattacks point was an example.