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vhcat1970

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so, one thing he said is true ... Christianity is based originally off Judaism. I guess that would be a true statement. We can also be happy that they were hateful, vengeful, and blind to the truth, and thus fulfilled scripture by murdering a truly innocent man. We don't owe them much ... they played their role. JMO and nothing i said is based on scripture.
Well if Christianity isn't based off Judaism, why use the Old Testament?
 

notFromhere

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we're going to have to agree to disagree then.

Christianity is based on the entire bible, both old and new testaments, to include the Pentateuch, which forms the basis of the Hebrew bible.

Correct.

so they most certainly are directly related.

Nope.

Most, if not all, of the Hebrew bible points to a Messiah and Jesus came to fulfill the Hebrew scripture.

Yep.

The Pharisees were too blind with lust, greed, and power

Yep.

and would never accept a commoner as their Savior.

They knew he wasnt a "commoner"... Read Matthew 21:33-46

But Jesus said many times that he came to fulfill the scripture (the Jewish scripture we refer to as the OT). Others more savvy or articulate can describe it better. But without Judaism around 2000 years ago, there would be no Christianity.

The source of the error is that the OT is not "Jewish."

Judaism as a religion didn't exist until well after the captivity in Babylon. It didn't exist until after the Greeks or Romans started calling the territory Judea. It as religion wasn't recognized wifely as Judaism until after the first century.

THIS is the MAIN reason the Pharisees wanted him gone. They weren't keeping God's Law. They were keeping their traditions IN PLACE OF God's Law. That's what the "wisdom of the sages" is. It's a substitute. It's a collection of traditions that are "the traditions" Jesus spoke of and against directly. When you read the parable of the tenants, and listen with the spirit carefully to what it says, you realize they knew he was the Son of God, AND they weren't giving their tithes to God, nor keeping HIS LAW.

They rejected him because he WAS KEEPING his Father's commandments and KNEW the LAW better than they did, for good reason. He was the embodiment of it.

If they WERE keeping His commandments, then they would not have been exiled from the land-
.... EVER. The Word of God says so.

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To say there would be no Christianity without Judaism is to deny the power and will of God.

Remember, at one point God said He was considering wiping out the tribes and starting over with Moses. He didn't need anyone except a son of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob to fulfill the promise made to them. Judaism played its part after Jesus was born, but even if the rabbis failed to exist before then, God's will and purpose would not have been thwarted. His Word does not return to Him unfulfilled.
 

AustinTXCat

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** Wise Words Department **

“The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing.”

— Milton Friedman
 

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