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Beatle Bum

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This account from a Venezuelan security guard loyal to Nicolás Maduro is absolutely chilling—and it explains a lot about why the tone across Latin America suddenly changed.

Security Guard: On the day of the operation, we didn't hear anything coming. We were on guard, but suddenly all our radar systems shut down without any explanation. The next thing we saw were drones, a lot of drones, flying over our positions. We didn't know how to react.

Interviewer: So what happened next? How was the main attack?

Security Guard: After those drones appeared, some helicopters arrived, but there were very few. I think barely eight helicopters. From those helicopters, soldiers came down, but a very small number. Maybe twenty men. But those men were technologically very advanced. They didn't look like anything we've fought against before.

Interviewer: And then the battle began?

Security Guard: Yes, but it was a massacre. We were hundreds, but we had no chance. They were shooting with such precision and speed... it seemed like each soldier was firing 300 rounds per minute. We couldn't do anything.

Interviewer: And your own weapons? Didn't they help?

Security Guard: No help at all. Because it wasn't just the weapons. At one point, they launched something—I don't know how to describe it... it was like a very intense sound wave. Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside. We all started bleeding from the nose. Some were vomiting blood. We fell to the ground, unable to move.

Interviewer: And your comrades? Did they manage to resist?

Security Guard: No, not at all. Those twenty men, without a single casualty, killed hundreds of us. We had no way to compete with their technology, with their weapons. I swear, I've never seen anything like it. We couldn't even stand up after that sonic weapon or whatever it was.

Interviewer: So do you think the rest of the region should think twice before confronting the Americans?

Security Guard: Without a doubt. I'm sending a warning to anyone who thinks they can fight the United States. They have no idea what they're capable of. After what I saw, I never want to be on the other side of that again. They're not to be messed with.

Interviewer: And now that Trump has said Mexico is on the list, do you think the situation will change in Latin America?

Security Guard: Definitely. Everyone is already talking about this. No one wants to go through what we went through. Now everyone thinks twice. What happened here is going to change a lot of things, not just in Venezuela but throughout the region.

Reads like a script written by Pete Hegseth.
 

Beatle Bum

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No, I don't. I think he put himself in that position due to bravado and lax training and then panicked. I think he is culpable due to that negligence.

I'm legitimately surprised you think so poorly of your fellow countrymen. That woman had her dog in the car. She was not planning an attack. This should be obvious to anyone being objective.
LOL - she had her dog in the car is relevant to her intentions? I can only see one reason to type that, humor. Thanks for that morbid joke. I think this situation is truly sad for all involved (all of whom I believe to be citizens and countrymen), but you found a way to get a chuckle out of me.

On a relevant note, her spouse called for her to drive. I have no idea what was in Good’s mind at that time, nor does it matter as we discuss the officer’s response, but her spouse encouraged her to “drive” rather than get out of the car as ordered. Had her spouse said, “get out the car, it’s gonna be okay,” it appears Good would be alive today. I hope the spouse is on suicide watch, because I could see her being a dark place right now based upon how she participated in Good’s death.
 
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1,000 additional ICE agents headed to Minnesota, per fox.

a man in a suit and tie is sitting on a couch eating popcorn and drinking a beer

This is the only way we can respond now but I still think the initial situation was handled very poorly.

Why did ice have a blockade in what looked like a suburb with nice homes? Maybe it sounds prejudicial, but generally that is not the location of a high saturation of illegals. That's why everyone in the video was basically white middle aged ladies.

Every single illegal should be gone. We're just going about it in the most bass ackwards way possible.

There was a legal battle all the way to scotus iirc for doge to connect all the databases so they could 1) cut off benefits to dead/fake people and 2) get address info for illegals on benefits.

Why not just arrest everyone at the receiving end of the above benefits? Deport those illegals. That's literally a layup and the entire reason behind that fight but the info is going unused.

For boots on the ground, start in downtowns. You'd net loads there. Then hit restaurants, service industry, factories, and construction workers. Tons more. The very last thing they should so is blockade an upper middle class suburban area.
 

Beatle Bum

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Every single illegal should be gone. We're just going about it in the most bass ackwards way possible.

There was a legal battle all the way to scotus iirc for doge to connect all the databases so they could 1) cut off benefits to dead/fake people and 2) get address info for illegals on benefits.

Why not just arrest everyone at the receiving end of the above benefits? Deport those illegals. That's literally a layup and the entire reason behind that fight but the info is going unused.
Your suggestion has a ton of missing parts. First, there are a lot of techniques employed to discover the illegals, some seem relatively sophisticated, some not so much.

Regardless, there is an immigration law. Granted it is a law that has been abused and ignored in the past, but it exists. Rounding up illegals and simply deporting them is not the law. The statutes are convoluted but provide direction, both administratively and judicially.

For boots on the ground, start in downtowns. You'd net loads there. Then hit restaurants, service industry, factories, and construction workers. Tons more. The very last thing they should so is blockade an upper middle class suburban area.
From what has been reported, these are being done. That said, some of these people live in the neighborhoods you described. And, was ICE creating the blockade or was Good?
 

Tinker Dan

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I have not seen any of this reporting to know it is true. She and her spouse did not look well emotionally and did not seem to be having calm thoughts, especially the spouse.

I heard WHAS radio and read Reuters state that Good was shot as she tried to drive away. I find that reporting typical, but irresponsible. We don’t know what the hell she was doing. She was obviously leaving her spouse. She could have been pulling away, moving her car, or trying to run into an officer. We can take our best guess upon inspection of the video, but it’s just conjecture, not fact.

The facts are she blocked law enforcement and her spouse was taunting an officer who seemed to be raining calm. She was told together out of her car by law enforcement. She backed up a bit and then moved forward in the direction of an officer so much so that she clipped him as he tried to get out her way.

What was her intent? Was she trying to escape without her spouse? Was she trying to move the car so she could say she complied with an early command of the officer? Was trying to hit or intimidate the officer in front of her? Did she just lose it and panic?

We won’t know and should not report otherwise. That said, the spin media employs is so typical, it does not make me mad, just a fact of our times. Incompetence? Intent? Both? In the least, I think it a shift in what is called journalism. Facts don’t really matter anymore to many in that profession.
Well said.
 
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I would say her relaxed nature and the fact she’s cutting in sharply on the right suggest she did not have intent. I think the agent will be cleared, but his words “f****** b****” will raise questions about the emotions on his end.

Agree. It will be justified but barely. This was avoidable on endless numbers of levels. Its exactly what the left was waiting on and they got it.
 
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vhcat1970

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So either take 100k & become a US territory or take $0 and become a Russian/Chinese territory in a few years. Their choice.
So you absolutely know for sure those are their only two options? LOL. Regardless of what we pay them, $0 or $10M each, we won't let Russia/China take over. That's the one fact.
 
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Your suggestion has a ton of missing parts. First, there are a lot of techniques employed to discover the illegals, some seem relatively sophisticated, some not so much.

Regardless, there is an immigration law. Granted it is a law that has been abused and ignored in the past, but it exists. Rounding up illegals and simply deporting them is not the law. The statutes are convoluted but provide direction, both administratively and judicially.


From what has been reported, these are being done. That said, some of these people live in the neighborhoods you described. And, was ICE creating the blockade or was Good?

Of course it is a two part process but it begins with apprehension. If you don't actually get the person nothing else matters.

Musk said no one used the info they provided. Also, if they are employing any of those tactics its done in secret. As we know from their social media, they do very little in secret. They post virtually every time they grab someone.

Finally there is very little value in long stays in cities. Illegals just go underground till they leave. If ice agents are roaming around suburbia, they're wasting their time and our money.
 

Lost In FL

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I would like to hear what he says immediately after this quote, but that sort of escalation should be stamped out by the left.
we all know it won't be stamped out by you crazies... your side tried to murder our president, and DID murder someone who only talked... but because you crybullies cannot handle disagreement, or being told NO, you resort to violence... this rhetoric is NOTHING NEW to your side ... so there is ZERO chance this gets "stamped out by the left" ... unless you meant stamp of approval.

good grief.
 

Lost In FL

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Gee, that should work out well. I’m sure people with steady incomes will be champing the bit to move in and pay for housing a bunch of commie deadbeats.
I bet that’s never been tried before. 🙄
note she fumbled saying government would be "the owner" ... she let it slip. this isn't just socialism ... this is straight hard core communism. this will end in bloodshed. always does.
 

HeismanWinner

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Can any of the leftists on here explain your side’s never-ending desire to be a victim? I’ve never seen anything like it and I certainly don’t understand it. The Left literally makes up struggles so they can run to social media to broadcast their struggle.

It’s pathetic.
Marxism has always operated with oppressor vs oppressed narrative. It thrives on the social anarchy/victimhood status and their politicians are the only ones who can save all 😂

Typical commie stuff
 
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Lost In FL

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This is the only way we can respond now but I still think the initial situation was handled very poorly.

Why did ice have a blockade in what looked like a suburb with nice homes? Maybe it sounds prejudicial, but generally that is not the location of a high saturation of illegals. That's why everyone in the video was basically white middle aged ladies.

Every single illegal should be gone. We're just going about it in the most bass ackwards way possible.

There was a legal battle all the way to scotus iirc for doge to connect all the databases so they could 1) cut off benefits to dead/fake people and 2) get address info for illegals on benefits.

Why not just arrest everyone at the receiving end of the above benefits? Deport those illegals. That's literally a layup and the entire reason behind that fight but the info is going unused.

For boots on the ground, start in downtowns. You'd net loads there. Then hit restaurants, service industry, factories, and construction workers. Tons more. The very last thing they should so is blockade an upper middle class suburban area.
you consistently are chicken little... being a UK fan has broken you, my friend.
 

vhcat1970

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This is all really bad news for us and the world.
Post WW2 America is dead.
We are now a lawless nation that steals oil and resources from its neighbors, kills its citizens in the streets at will, and threatens military force against any nation that has something we want.

The only question is how far this disaster goes before the sh** hits the fan for every one of us.
Your views on the state of affairs here & around the world are sick & detached from reality.
 

Lost In FL

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Of course it is a two part process but it begins with apprehension. If you don't actually get the person nothing else matters.

Musk said no one used the info they provided. Also, if they are employing any of those tactics its done in secret. As we know from their social media, they do very little in secret. They post virtually every time they grab someone.

Finally there is very little value in long stays in cities. Illegals just go underground till they leave. If ice agents are roaming around suburbia, they're wasting their time and our money.
musk also said that trump was protecting himself with the files. IOW, when elon was mad he said a lot of things. and not all of them were true, they were either said in anger or to throw the dumb liberals off his scent (stop burning down teslas)

which brings another point ... i cant keep up, but over the last year what has the protests been?
no kings ... check
ICE
epstein
iran
maduro
tariffs
greenland
border
deportations

and the smooth-brain lefties do not realize that they simply switch from one "cause" to another at the blink of an eye ... the outrage of the day. Just like orwell predicted.
 

berniecarbo

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Fifty plus years ago, I watched as some protesters were in a public park in Turkey and appeared to be peaceful. Van loads of Turkish riot police drove up and got out swinging clubs. The rioters who could ran for their lives. It certainly appears a much harsher stance is going to have to be taken here if we are to gain control. No, I am not saying kill protesters.