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Is the ultimate outcome the loss of 500k jobs? That's the part im focusing on.

The details between ai and robotics (i saw this one was robotics) are irrelevant because its all derived from the same source and have the same result.

I am a free market person, but when the largest company in the world cuts 75% of its workforce that is a massive cost savings at the expense of several jobs.

This is just one. Every company out there all has this stuff in their development roadmaps. Im sure that's where this was leaked for Amazon.

Our society can neither fiscally nor emotionally handle half the country not having gainful employment.

Just to play devils advocate. You’re currently saying Amazon will cut 500k jobs and that’s very bad (I agree). But what were people saying ten years ago when Amazon was just coming up? They said Amazon and online shopping would destroy the job market by putting all these brick and mortar stores out of business! But what happened? People got hired to run the online businesses and then work for Amazon as it got bigger. So now I ask, why can’t the people that are being fired from Amazon not work at these new AI and robotics companies that are now coming up, creating a new industry. Why do you think I might think this? Because this is what has happened in every single industry since the dawn of civilization.
 
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berniecarbo

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Just to play devils advocate. You’re currently saying Amazon will cut 500k jobs and that’s very bad (I agree). But what were people saying ten years ago when Amazon was just coming up? They said Amazon and online shopping would destroy the job market by putting all these brick and mortar stores out of business! But what happened? People got hired to run the online businesses and then work for Amazon as it got bigger. So now I ask, why can’t the people that are being fired from Amazon not work at these new AI and robotics companies that are now coming up, creating a new industry. Why do you think I might think this? Because this is what has happened in every single industry since the dawn of civilization.
I am a veteran and my background was base security. That has probably effected the way I think about things, but shouldn't we at least think about things that might happen, so we can be prepared if something does happen?
 
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I am a veteran and my background was base security. That has probably effected the way I think about things, but shouldn't we at least think about things that might happen, so we can be prepared if something does happen?

I get that, sure. But at the end of the day you:

1) can’t stop progress or advancement, certainly not through legislation so I don’t really see what can be done politically

2) this has been said about every new industry since the dawn of time. The printing press was going to eliminate jobs, the assembly line, cars, computers, the internet etc. They were right in that they did eliminate the job market for the old technologies, but for whatever reason nobody accounted for or realized it would open up jobs in the new industry that we don’t really know about yet.
 

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I get that, sure. But at the end of the day you:

1) can’t stop progress or advancement, certainly not through legislation so I don’t really see what can be done politically

2) this has been said about every new industry since the dawn of time. The printing press was going to eliminate jobs, the assembly line, cars, computers, the internet etc. They were right in that they did eliminate the job market for the old technologies, but for whatever reason nobody accounted for or realized it would open up jobs in the new industry that we don’t really know about yet.
I posted earlier that we may not be smart enough to know what to do, so I do see your point. At the same time, you need to look at possibilities.
 

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I posted earlier that we may not be smart enough to know what to do, so I do see your point. At the same time, you need to look at possibilities.


I will go out on a limb and say that Amazon knows full well the long term (potential) ramifications of job losses. They didn't get to the top of the mountain by being stupid, and would guess (by doing further research) that future investments, new ideas, etc.....will offset much of this. They aren't sending half a million people to the soup line......good grief.
 

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To determine the percentage of 500,000 jobs lost relative to the total number of employed people in the US (approximately 163.4 million as of the latest official data from August 2025), use the following formula:
\text{Percentage} = \left( \frac{500,000}{163,400,000} \right) \times 100
First, divide the number of jobs lost by the total employed:
\frac{500,000}{163,400,000} \approx 0.003061
Then multiply by 100 to convert to a percentage:
0.003061 \times 100 \approx 0.31\%
This represents about 0.3% of the total US workforce. Note that this is a rough estimate and assumes the 500K figure applies to the US specifically (claims about AI job displacement often vary by sector, timeline, and source, and may include global or net effects after accounting for new jobs created). maybe they should learn to CODE
Someone get the clown, he has a cohort in this thread. It's getting crowded in here.
 

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That is ultimately the question. Its an unprecedented situation. The first step is acknowledging the issue. Then it will be a group effort to solve.

It needs to start now. Every decent size company in America have 1,3,5 year roadmaps for tech development. The sooner this gets addressed, the easier it is to get the companies on board because they haven't yet spent the development money.

Once they spend that money, it will be tough getting them on board. We need it to an all buy in solution.
He is already solving it deporting illegals. Now we just put these out of work people in the fields to replace those the dims are losing.
 

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A flu shot. Lol.

You might want to check the numbers on that one, sport.

Alex berenson was just tweeting a new study today. Lol
"CDC estimates that flu has resulted in 9.3 million – 41 million illnesses, 120,000 – 710,000 hospitalizations and 6,300 – 52,000 deaths annually between 2010 and 2024." And that includes the 6K during peak covid.


Let the Berenson guy tweet here.
 

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Is the ultimate outcome the loss of 500k jobs? That's the part im focusing on.

The details between ai and robotics (i saw this one was robotics) are irrelevant because its all derived from the same source and have the same result.

I am a free market person, but when the largest company in the world cuts 75% of its workforce that is a massive cost savings at the expense of several jobs.

This is just one. Every company out there all has this stuff in their development roadmaps. Im sure that's where this was leaked for Amazon.

Our society can neither fiscally nor emotionally handle half the country not having gainful employment.
Comes down to whether the economy grows enough to create alternate jobs to these (picking fruit w/o illegals here is one).

Also, with population spiraling down, won't have people needing jobs anyway.
 

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Guy threatens to murder a Christian who criticized Israel and X won't suspend him.


Nothing has changed in that regard on Fb and X. A month or two ago, we were talking at lunch about these kinds of posts and profiles on social media that leveled direct threats at people and how they never "go against standards" unless they are conservative, christian, and they threaten some liberal or some globalist business.

It's worse if you simply put out information they disagree with. There's still no place that truly free speech exists. One of the guys was threatened directly, which is what brought the topic home, and Fb did nothing to remove content or the profile. "Didn't go against standards." Another in our group was going to use an alternate profile to threaten the original threatener on our friends page to see if theyd get banned, but I don't think they ever tried it.
 

Lost In FL

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Not good. It seems something needs to be addressed with the uber-billionaires. I know it's their money, they earned it, they had the brilliant minds to create these companies and change our way of life.. and obviously the answers can't just be "Take their wealth!".. but the wealth gap is what it is. Less and less people are able to afford things. Should someone actually be worth half a trillion dollars? When do you get to the point where you have enough money? (Yes, I know Musk doesn't just have half a trillion under his matress).
if people really feel this way, then stop using their products.
 
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Lost In FL

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It absolutely is.

People keep thinking that life is going to be status quo and it is not. AI is going to destroy this---and it's going to be used to push UBI. Watch and see.

So we are undeniably headed toward AI domination, technocracy, universal basic income, mass surveilance state and digital ID/currency. It won't happen for boomer's but it's going to be a probem for everyone else.
some call it the beast...
 

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What did he leak? Haven't seen anything about this
This is the Telegram group chat that the left went nuts about. A lot of Gen Z NY Young Republicans who were saying edgy stuff and racially insensitive stuff (blacks and Jews) and Gavin Wax, a big time Zionist "Republican", blackmailed a guy to give him access to the Telegram chat, turned around and worked with Politico for a year to destroy his rivals.

Ben Shapiro and all of the Israel shills went bananas over it and wanting to purge the right of anyone who doesn't bow down to them---Matt Walsh said he didn't care about a group chat as the right needs to unite against the left considering how evil they are. Well, Shapiro and his cronies were enraged by that so they want him destroyed and Walsh is teetering on the land of being ostracized like Tucker is.
 

JumperJack.

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You don't think forcing people to keep greater distances had an effect? Why not?

Social distancing didn’t stop Covid cases. There were however many million. While at the same time flu cases plummeted. Yet we know the flu virus didn’t just disappear.

I’m not dismissing that Covid killed people but I have serious doubts about how many. Those numbers are absolutely not credible for multiple reasons but the main one is that since 2020 we have seen our institutions absolutely lying out their asses about everything from crime to the border to inflation to vaccines to laptops to J6.

We’ve had extremely severe flu episodes before. Not once did we destroy the fabric of our society as a response, but we did in 2020. We deserve answers.
 

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I get that, sure. But at the end of the day you:

1) can’t stop progress or advancement, certainly not through legislation so I don’t really see what can be done politically

2) this has been said about every new industry since the dawn of time. The printing press was going to eliminate jobs, the assembly line, cars, computers, the internet etc. They were right in that they did eliminate the job market for the old technologies, but for whatever reason nobody accounted for or realized it would open up jobs in the new industry that we don’t really know about yet.
Agree with #1. With #2, also a fair point but I think the difference is that those jobs that were eliminated that created new and different Jobs were done by people (not all I realize that). My concern is that mainly robots will be working in the robotic plants. Not all technological advances are equal. At some point, whether we like it or not, there will be some serious pain involved.