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tls

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Tell me you didn't read what I posted AND know nothing about WTC architecture AND are repeating irrelevant talking points without telling me....

Don't get me wrong. I'm impressed you did all that in just one short post. That's remarkable. Clearly been smelling your own flatulence the right way.

"Yes, the World Trade Center towers were engineered to withstand the impact of a large jet."

Neither of the towers were hit by "multiple impacts" and neither were hit by "747s."

- A jet is incapable of the shearing of steel girders witnessed in the crater.
- Jet fuel is incapable of the shearing.
- Jet fuel is also incapable of a sustained high temperature burn. It ignites and reaches temperatures as high as 1700° and then is done.
- There is nothing normally used in an office building/skyscraper that burns to the temperatures necessary to weaken steel girders to the point that they would be cut rather than bent (and even bending them is impossible within the engineered structure at the sustained temps of the fires that day).

In order for a single steel girder to be deformed/bent, they would ALL have to be bent because of the steel reinforced concrete flooring to which they were attached. Were they bent, the building would not have fallen straight down and also not at near freefall speed.

I don't generally talk about it on here because of people's cognitive dissonance and the pointlessness of arguing with people that don't know anything about architectural engineering or metallurgy, and that will never be revealed and truly investigated in this world in my lifetime. But if you want to argue about it, there are a lot more engineers with data and history to back them up that will crush any of your arguments.
Israel did it right? The engineers will tell us, no doubt
 

AustinTXCat

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** Wise Words Department **

"What I'm not saying is that all government spending is bad. It's not - far, far from it, but there is no free lunch, as a former colleague of mine used to say. There is no public tooth fairy. Father Christmas does not work on the Treasury staff this year. You can never bail someone out of trouble without putting someone else into trouble."

- Arthur Laffer
 

HymanKaplan

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Laffer has taken a pretty good beating over the years and has consistently been taken out of context.

Critics have exaggerated or even completely denatured his claim/theories, and completely ignored the economic conditions that were in place when he made them.

Just like so many other things now; politicians, the media, and uninformed people spew crap before they actually bother to inform themselves. There is ample real world data that proves lowering taxes CAN increase tax revenues. But like anything; you have to understand something to properly implement it and further, know WHEN to. Blindly dismissing ideas because it fits a narrative you want to push is a low IQ canary in the coal mine.
 
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warrior-cat

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reading "I was just imagining how it would feel" with no frame of reference...

It's like walking blindly into a room and finding yourself in an awkward situation.

Best to just back out slowly and close the door. LOL
Actually, your last sentence goes with the theme of the post quoted. Butt, of course that post was in jest as are generally many of mine.
 

sefus12

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I doubt her being one of the victims is a coincidence. There aren’t very many open Conservatives bouncing around Providence, especially on a campus like Brown. Makes it SEEM targeted, and if that’s the case it’s another reason the folks in Providence (and the news) seem to be sweeping this under a rug.

Thoughts to her family and friends.
 
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notFromhere

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I doubt her being one of the victims isn’t a coincidence. There aren’t very many open Conservatives bouncing around Providence, especially on a campus like Brown. Makes it SEEM targeted, and if that’s the case it’s another reason the folks in Providence (and the news) seem to be sweeping this under a rug.

Thoughts to her family and friends.

Agreed. The people doing these things are being activated and given targets. They were given phones and money, and those giving it to them still in our govt can get in contact with them at any time.
 

notFromhere

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Micah Parson, Evan Williams, Zach Toms, and Christian Watson all with devastating injuries today against the Broncos. That makes 40 percent of their starters that have missed all or most of the entire 2025 season due to injuries. That is historically unprecedented in the modern era.

Why is it becoming more common in the league rather than less? Even with all of our advancements in training and medicine, there seem to be many more and increasing % of injuries each year. For Pete's sake they had to pull Philip Rivers out of a 5 yr retirement to play for the Colts. Think about that
 

notFromhere

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Israel did it right? The engineers will tell us, no doubt

Who are you, Tim Walz? Go have a pop tart. Lol

How would anyone be able to tell you that since they weren't able to examine the rubble and do a chemical analysis.

No idea who did what or exactly how. Doesn't matter. I'm not going to ignore the questions and inconsistencies just because it's more convenient and popular. It's just not scientific or reasonable to do so for me.

I also don't expect those who've bought everything proclaimed and ignored everything counter to it to suddenly have a light bulb go on in that darkness. I expect they'll just get angry and respond with simple talking points and the usual mischaracterizations, and/or ignore the questions and science altogether.

I also expect them to ignore nearly a whole post over ONE SINGLE POINT that triggers them.
 

HymanKaplan

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Why is it becoming more common in the league rather than less? Even with all of our advancements in training and medicine, there seem to be many more and increasing % of injuries each year. For Pete's sake they had to pull Philip Rivers out of a 5 yr retirement to play for the Colts. Think about that
Not surprisingly, I also thought that serious injuries are on the uptick, but after looking into it, that doesn't seem to be the case. The Packer situation though, is an absurd outlier. Like I said, I can't find anything else like it in the last 58 years. A truly freak occurrence.
 

notFromhere

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Riiiiight.🤔

$100 on Mossad claiming Iran.


The question isn't who they will say did it.

The question (for me) is HOW mossad can help a country so far away investigate anything and why them? How big of a surveillance presence does mossad have in Australia? And why do they?

Why would Australia, a country of unarmed civilians, ask a country whose population is comparatively armed to the teeth for help in an investigation unless they already had capabilities and a surveillance presence there? Not the US. Not their UK allies. Of course one of the smallest countries on the planet located along the Mediterranean coast... let's ask them
 
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ukalumni00

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Why is it becoming more common in the league rather than less? Even with all of our advancements in training and medicine, there seem to be many more and increasing % of injuries each year. For Pete's sake they had to pull Philip Rivers out of a 5 yr retirement to play for the Colts. Think about that
Zero evidence here, JMO. Athletes are getting bigger, faster and stronger. There are advantages to it, but tendons and ligaments can only take so much. Has always been the case. Just seems like dudes weighing 230+ running 4.4's and making their bodies do insane things wreaks havoc on their joints. Freaks like Lebron spend millions to have the best of everything in sports medicine to give more longevity than before but Father Time is undefeated.
 

sefus12

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Zero evidence here, JMO. Athletes are getting bigger, faster and stronger. There are advantages to it, but tendons and ligaments can only take so much. Has always been the case. Just seems like dudes weighing 230+ running 4.4's and making their bodies do insane things wreaks havoc on their joints. Freaks like Lebron spend millions to have the best of everything in sports medicine to give more longevity than before but Father Time is undefeated.
I think specialized, targeted training probably puts more stress on certain joints as well.
 

vhcat1970

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It’s why I cannot understand why leftists cannot see: Trump is the MODERATE option.

If they refuse to allow him to deport dangerous people and ideologies, what comes next is completely on their hands.
I agree he's a moderate, not conservative.

Dims will be happy to have it on their hands. It's part of their plans.
 

SDC337

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It’s why I cannot understand why leftists cannot see: Trump is the MODERATE option.

If they refuse to allow him to deport dangerous people and ideologies, what comes next is completely on their hands.

Their politicians are a cancer they've left to grow: Trump is the chemotherapy. (not my brilliant apt analogy)

They're completely (blissfully) ignorant of the problem they've created; vociferously complaining about the cure because all they see is deportation (losing your hair and nails) looks bad.
 

JumperJack.

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Rob was a political nut job, but NOBODY deserves to die a violent death at the hands of someone else. So sorry to hear this.
That’s true. Nobody deserves that.

It can also be true that RR, based on the insane hatred for people who disagreed with him that he documented for the whole world to see, probably reaped some of the poisons he sowed.
 

HymanKaplan

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Zero evidence here, JMO. Athletes are getting bigger, faster and stronger. There are advantages to it, but tendons and ligaments can only take so much. Has always been the case. Just seems like dudes weighing 230+ running 4.4's and making their bodies do insane things wreaks havoc on their joints. Freaks like Lebron spend millions to have the best of everything in sports medicine to give more longevity than before but Father Time is undefeated.

Here's a weird note: The Packers have lost 3 of their top 6 players this year to ACL's and every single one of them was non-contact, which leads me to believe a lot of this is turf related.
 

notFromhere

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I'm the one triggered? Wow. And yes, I know precisely what the words I used ( golden calf) mean. I'm beginning to think you dont. Let me help: It means in this context that I offended something (an idea) you revere.

I don't revere ideas. I don't revere anything or anyone but God. So your comment is just another of the many fallacies you'll continue to throw out there. I remain untriggered and unemotional about your disconnect and disagreement.

I'm sitting here trying to figure out why you are asking about the structural integrity of the non-stationary object instead of the structural integrity of the main subject here.

....and that is exactly your problem. Science doesn't ignore problems of physics to protect emotional states. If you don't know what happens to a 767 (and most large commercial airliners) at less than 2000ft and 500mph, why is that my problem to solve?

The physics of a collision requires all data from the objects involved. I had already talked about the building (thank you for confirming you didn't read anything again). Why do you want to ignore the attributes of the plane?

(The building) It's almost like you are attempting to use my words in a totally wrong context in order to give the optics of sounding intelligence.

Lol. If you're emotional, then yes it would seem that way.

It wouldn't matter if the moving object was made of balsa wood and huge. 400,000 lbs at a high rate of velocity into an immovable object causes bad things to happen whether or not you want to accept it or not. P =m*v

Yes. It actually wood. Lol

There is a HUGE difference between an object that is a solid mass and an object that is a framework hitting a building designed to withstand it, "whether you want to accept it or not." I didn't even get into much detail.

The question still remains unanswered by the triggered-

Why are you engaging and obsessing over this when no one asked you a direct question?

Here's another-

If it WAS a religious dogma and I ask a question about it, when it's not your religion, why would you respond so aggressively and start attacking personally?

You believe it is a religious relic for me, but that hasn't stopped you from making every post of yours personal and emotional. Isn't that odd behavior if you're not triggered or don't lack confidence in the subject matter? Again, I simply stated TOGETHER a bunch of legitimate questions one could ask, and YOU over-reacted to one or two COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT and are now saying I am doing that very thing.

Consider that you might be projecting.

I'm done speaking with you on this.

Moving forward you should know I question things even if they are uncomfortable to question. If I ask a question, it is not an attack on your beliefs. It is simply a question. It is not asserting a fact. It is simply a question. When no one is given nor allowed to examine the evidence, I will not assume any conclusion is proven just because it is broadcast loudly or by many within minutes or after decades.

I hope you feel better and have a good day, but please feel free to do so at your own pace. I'm not rushing you.