Poll; Miles, Tressell or Briles

Which would you prefer?


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STUCKNBIG10

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Art Briles will never coach another down at a P5 school. Mike Price was never hired by a major school after his stripper incident in Alabama. That doesn't even remotely compare with the media coverage of the Baylor scandal. It doesn't matter what Briles did or didn't do. In the court of public opinion he is essentially a rapist. And unfortunately for him that isn't going to change any time soon. My guess is the guy will finish his career out at school like UTEP or North Texas.

You haven't been paying attention then. In these days, people are starved for a winner. There are examples all over the place where winning cures all and eventually the media stop throwing mud (or at least it slows down). Look at UL, the poster child for rogue schools and athletic departments. The narrative has almost completely flipped from what a total dirtbag Petrino is to what an amazing coach he is.
Just win baby.
 
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STUCKNBIG10

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UK needs to get serious about football and hire Briles. Someone is going to hire him.
100%. Clay Travis column today talks about just that. He will have a job within two years and I wouldn't be shocked if he was coaching in division I next year.
 

UKGrad87

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If Petrino makes a jump back to the SEC. I hope it's Kentucky!! WHY FRIGGIN NOT!!!
I think the question is "why?" I love Kentucky football more than any other sport, but let's face it, we are the definition of "graveyard of coaches." What coach, since Bear left 63 years ago, has even made a lateral move from Kentucky, much less a career advancement? Joker, fired; Brooks, retired; Morriss, not counting since he was never really more than an interim; Mumme, fired; Curry, fired; Claiborne, retired; Curci, fired; Ray, fired; Bradshaw, fired; Collier, fired. It's not looking good for CMS, either. I am typically a sunshine pumper, but seriously, why would anyone believe coaching at Kentucky is a good career move?
 

DaBossIsBack

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You haven't been paying attention then. In these days, people are starved for a winner. There are examples all over the place where winning cures all and eventually the media stop throwing mud (or at least it slows down). Look at UL, the poster child for rogue schools and athletic departments. The narrative has almost completely flipped from what a total dirtbag Petrino is to what an amazing coach he is.
Just win baby.
You haven't been paying attention. College rape culture isn't just a sports issue. This isn't some coach getting caught banging an employee. There is no way a school like LSU or Auburn can spin hiring Briles. It won't just be ESPN covering it. It will be everyone in the mainstream media from the New York Times to CNN. Whether you think it's a big deal or not is irrelevant. The mainstream media will absolutely rake anyone who hires Briles over the coals. It will be brutal.
 

Grumpyolddawg

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Art Briles will never coach another down at a P5 school. Mike Price was never hired by a major school after his stripper incident in Alabama. That doesn't even remotely compare with the media coverage of the Baylor scandal. It doesn't matter what Briles did or didn't do. In the court of public opinion he is essentially a rapist. And unfortunately for him that isn't going to change any time soon. My guess is the guy will finish his career out at school like UTEP or North Texas.

Unless he turns them he will be coaching in the SEC in 17. LSU and AU will be playing in the Art Briles bowl this weekend, losyhe r goes after him. AU might have hired him in the summer if Gus didn't have a larger buyout than Stoops.

Mike Price's incident happened 20+ years ago, he wasn't a popular choice to begin with, Saban could be riding down any main street in Alabama with 10 strippers, a stripper pole and hot tub and fans would be trying to climb on the ride.
 
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*Bleedingblue*

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Tressel. Tressel would be a lot like brooks but better. He could coach another ten years and have the program in a really stable place when he retires. He knows how to build a program. Our recruiting in Ohio would do nothing but get better. He would bring in top assistants at every position. He would be a grand slam hire that is attainable.

Brooks was 61 when he was hired here was 68 when he retired.
Tressel will be 64 in early december. Stoops will be here another year so your looking at Tressel being 65 if Stools is fired after next season.

Do you think hes going to want the job until he is in his mid 70's?
 
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*Bleedingblue*

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If our head coach position were vacated?

Of those you listed only Briles could turn this around and has the resume to prove it.
I like Greg Schiano as well. Really educating himself when being tutored by Pete Carrol, Nick Saban and is now learning under Meyer. Already a proven winner as a head coach and knows talented coaches to fill his staff out.
 

lex cath

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everyone needs to come back to earth......we are not going get briles, miles or tressel. it's nice to dream but sometime you have to face reality. big time coaches won't come to uk. get serious and look at asst coaches who have coached in the sec. maybe we might lure one in. atleast if they coached in the sec they will have and idea as to what type of players it will take to play in the sec. but big names won't come here now. sad but true.

At least we can dream of Briles HC 2017 :americanflag:
 

DaBossIsBack

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I hope you Briles folks don't have children. My God. I want to win but not at any cost. Briles might be a good ol' boy from Texas. A decent dude. But what happened at Baylor under his watch was as vile as it gets. Covering up rape is not forgivable. Great coach but I don't want him leading my program. I'll be shocked if a president signs off on a Briles hire.
 
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irishcat1965

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Lately, Miles can't win big at LSU with 5 star talent all over the roster- - how the hell is he going to win here? Briles? [laughing] Barnhart hiring him????? If you aren't up for sainthood, you aren't on Barnhart's list.

Let me throw out an insane name for you- Sean Payton. He will probably be fired at New Orleans this year. Make him a 7 million dollar a year man. :pimp:
 

mrhotdice

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You haven't been paying attention. College rape culture isn't just a sports issue. This isn't some coach getting caught banging an employee. There is no way a school like LSU or Auburn can spin hiring Briles. It won't just be ESPN covering it. It will be everyone in the mainstream media from the New York Times to CNN. Whether you think it's a big deal or not is irrelevant. The mainstream media will absolutely rake anyone who hires Briles over the coals. It will be brutal.
The Main Street media raked Bama fans over the coals when they hired Saben. If Briles can beat Bama, Auburn fans could give a ****. It's about winning at real SEC schools that play football.
 

billoliver40

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Guessing games on the coaching carousel.....

Petrino to the west coast....Southern Cal if things play out.
Brohm to Louisville.
Neal Brown to Kentucky in two years ( sorry)
Myles to AUBURN.
Tressel to a Big 10 team.
Mark Stoops goes as DC with his brother.
Briles to either nowhere or D2 for a couple of years.
Texas will likely also be in play...which means CStrong will be available.
 

birdie king

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Jim Grobe will not be coaching at Baylor next year and was 2006 Coach of the Year at Wake Forest. Not splashy hire, but solid. Well respected in the coaching community.
 

Grumpyolddawg

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Guessing games on the coaching carousel.....

Petrino to the west coast....Southern Cal if things play out.
Brohm to Louisville.
Neal Brown to Kentucky in two years ( sorry)
Myles to AUBURN.
Tressel to a Big 10 team.
Mark Stoops goes as DC with his brother.
Briles to either nowhere or D2 for a couple of years.
Texas will likely also be in play...which means CStrong will be available.

I would be stunned if Les ended up at AU. AU's goal is to beat Bama and Les has proven that isn't going to happen more than 1 or 2 times a decade with more talent than AU puts on the field. AU, if they can afford to get rid of Gus, will make a run at Petrino and/or Briles. They know Petrino has zero loyalty, he could care less that Louisville gave him a shot to get back to a P5 school. There was less evidence against Briles, who was fired, than there was against Butch Jones who UT was doing everything they could to keep his name clean, he wouldn't have been fired by the majority of the schools in the SEC with the amount of evidence presented against him. What a lawyer looking to get a big settlement claims and the facts are not always the same. Both of those coaches run offenses that have and still are giving Bama the most trouble, they own Les.
 

Rawrrr

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I think if UK ever hires a coordinator for head coach again it will be one too many. Seems to me like the current situation and the previous one should render hiring a coordinator forever a dead option. Neal Brown? What, nobody remembers his offenses were terrible at UK?
 

magic8ball

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One name that I like no one has said is Willie Taggart.

I'm not saying he's my first choice but he's not old and doesn't have any scandals.

Of the the names in the poll my least favorite is Miles as I see him as an underaciever.

I may be wrong but somebody will roll the dice on Briles.
 
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I think we are kidding ourselves when Brohm's name is mentioned. I would be VERY surprised that Brohm would even entertain the idea of UK.

He is an UL guy. He is a Petrino guy. He turned down Coach Saban's offer to be the OC to remain at UL under Petrino. (Who turns down Saban and Bama to stay in Louisville??) He followed Petrino to WKU to be OC. He turned down offers from ACC schools last year. Everyone in Louisville believes Brohm is the "Coach in waiting" for UL. Why on earth would he ever take on the UK job which has destroyed so many coaches?

In my opinion, Brohm is truly a great young coach. He is making 1 Million a year and going to bowl games in Bowling Green. (That's a pretty sweet deal.) Taking on UK is a HUGE gamble for a rising star coach. UK needs a marquee hire, someone who could afford the early hits that the job would entail. As much as I love Brohm, he is not it. UK needs to be bold--Briles, Miles, Tressel. (I shudder of the thought of Tressel, simply because I loathe him. But I would understand the hire.)
 

Myron Gaines

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The offseason coaching carousel will go as:

Bobby P > LSU
Briles > Auburn
Brohm > UofL
Tressel > BC
Fleck > Purdue
Herman > USC
Miles > Houston
Kiffin > Oregon St
Stoops stays or Neal Brown > UK

All good hires, well cept for Barney of course
 

Big John Stud

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I hope you Briles folks don't have children. My God. I want to win but not at any cost. Briles might be a good ol' boy from Texas. A decent dude. But what happened at Baylor under his watch was as vile as it gets. Covering up rape is not forgivable. Great coach but I don't want him leading my program. I'll be shocked if a president signs off on a Briles hire.
HE DID NOT COVER UP RAPE! HE WOULD BE IN JAIL IF HE COVERED UP FELONIES. Please explain the actions he took to cover up rape. Surely you can say what he did if you accuse him of something as vile and despicable as covering up rape.
 

DaBossIsBack

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The offseason coaching carousel will go as:

Bobby P > LSU
Briles > Auburn
Brohm > UofL
Tressel > BC
Fleck > Purdue
Herman > USC
Miles > Houston
Kiffin > Oregon St
Stoops stays or Neal Brown > UK

All good hires, well cept for Barney of course
Herman will either be at LSU or a bigger Texas school. I could see him taking the Penn St job if it comes available. Or Michigan St if Dantonio leaves for a school like LSU or Auburn.
 

RonEJones

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Art Briles will never coach another down at a P5 school. Mike Price was never hired by a major school after his stripper incident in Alabama. That doesn't even remotely compare with the media coverage of the Baylor scandal. It doesn't matter what Briles did or didn't do. In the court of public opinion he is essentially a rapist. And unfortunately for him that isn't going to change any time soon. My guess is the guy will finish his career out at school like UTEP or North Texas.

Things have changed since the Price incident. The stakes are higher and the world is a different place. Back in the Price day, Petrino would have had a harder time. Not to mention, Price in his prime couldn't hold Briles' jock with 2 hands and a wheel barrow.

With that said, had Price set the world on fire at UTEP (ended with a sub 500 record), he would have been right back in the SEC. He just couldn't win at a high enough clip.
 

DaBossIsBack

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HE DID NOT COVER UP RAPE! HE WOULD BE IN JAIL IF HE COVERED UP FELONIES. Please explain the actions he took to cover up rape. Surely you can say what he did if you accuse him of something as vile and despicable as covering up rape.
Go read the pepper Hamilton report. Also this Baylor thing isn't over in the slightest for Briles and those involved.
 
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You haven't been paying attention. College rape culture isn't just a sports issue. This isn't some coach getting caught banging an employee. There is no way a school like LSU or Auburn can spin hiring Briles. It won't just be ESPN covering it. It will be everyone in the mainstream media from the New York Times to CNN. Whether you think it's a big deal or not is irrelevant. The mainstream media will absolutely rake anyone who hires Briles over the coals. It will be brutal.
that's true, Boss, but I wonder if it's as relevant as it sounds. I think UofL has this figured out. I've never seen the kind of criticism they got from re-hiring Petrino. Complete excoriation from ESPN, SI, Fox Sports, etc. But what Jurich instinctively knows is the 24 hour news cycle. People simply forget and move on. Those same people who were outraged about Petrino's hiring were either mute 9 months later, or worse - cheerleading about Petrino's offensive prowess. It's discouraging.

Now, having said that, two contrary points:

1. Maybe UofL is unique. It exists in a bubble, the local media was amazingly silent when ESPN was losing its mind over the hire. Its a lowly rated urban school - maybe the kind of alignment they have, where fans, boosters, school Prez, trustees, literally everyone lines up in favor of athletics because it's the only way the school is going to be favorably compared to other schools, maybe that only exists at a few places.
2. Even if the average person doesn't care what CNN/NYTimes, etc have to say about anything, university campuses are very much in the target audience of those kinds of media companies.
 
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Shavers48

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Go read the pepper Hamilton report. Also this Baylor thing isn't over in the slightest for Briles and those involved.
Art Briles is not named, the words 'Head Coach' are not used and there is no direct accusation of Briles anywhere in that report or anywhere in the public record. All that report confirms is that he 'could' have been involved in something to some degree. The fact they paid his contract out would indicate the school had little to no evidence of wrongdoing on his part. He obviously did something as he has expressed an apology but for specifically what exactly NO ONE KNOWS
 
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Big John Stud

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Go read the pepper Hamilton report. Also this Baylor thing isn't over in the slightest for Briles and those involved.
I always gotta go read something. What actions did he do to cover up rape? This is what happens when you ask how Coach Cal cheated, like what did he do. You always get a link to an article calling him a cheater that doesn't actually say what he did. This is what happens when you adopt someone else's opinion instead learning facts and basing your opinion on those facts.
 
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Boogie Fan

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1. Fleck
2. Brohm
3. If he's available, I'd be ok with giving Malzahn a look

If Mitch didn't give Petrino a chance no way in hell he gives Briles or Tressell a shot. I'd be fne if Mitch never made a football hire again.
 

DaBossIsBack

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I always gotta go read something. What actions did he do to cover up rape? This is what happens when you ask how Coach Cal cheated, like what did he do. You always get a link to an article calling him a cheater that doesn't actually say what he did. This is what happens when you adopt someone else's opinion instead learning facts and basing your opinion on those facts.
"Football staff conducted their own untrained internal inquiries, outside of policy, which improperly discredited complainants and denied them the right to a fair, impartial and informed investigation, interim measures or processes promised under University policy. In some cases, internal steps gave the illusion of responsiveness to complainants but failed to provide a meaningful institutional response under Title IX. Further, because reports were not shared outside of athletics, the University missed critical opportunities to impose appropriate disciplinary action that would have removed offenders from campus and possibly precluded future acts of sexual violence against Baylor students. In some instances, the football program dismissed players for unspecified team violations and assisted them in transferring to other schools. As a result, some football coaches and staff abdicated responsibilities under Title IX and Clery; to student welfare; to the health and safety of complainants; and to Baylor’s institutional values."

Need more?
 

tlowe

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I don't see Bobby Petrino leaving a program where he only has to win 2 maybe 3 big games a year in the ACC to be a top team for the dogfight of the SEC. He's proving right now he can be a title contender at Louisville and has the green light to take every troubled transfer from the big boys he can get. If you ask me he's got the perfect job where he can win 8 or 9 a year with a half decent team and nobody will worry about what a scumbag he is. I could be wrong but I imagine he's going to be in Louisville for the rest of his career.
 

WildcatofNati

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1. Fleck
2. Brohm
3. If he's available, I'd be ok with giving Malzahn a look

If Mitch didn't give Petrino a chance no way in hell he gives Briles or Tressell a shot. I'd be fne if Mitch never made a football hire again.
Agree that Briles will not get a sniff. As for Tressel, though, outside of the rules violation, he generally had a reputation of good character. Not that everyone liked him, but I never really heard of issues remotely like those of Honest Bob. That said, I don't think Tressel necessarily has any great interest in leaving his current job to coach again, and, if he did, there's no guarantee that he's as successful at UK as he was at Ohio State; to put it charitably, there's more opportunity to succeed there. He's a good coach, but he's in mid sixties and out of the coaching world for five years.
 

slick rick.ksr

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I don't see Bobby Petrino leaving a program where he only has to win 2 maybe 3 big games a year in the ACC to be a top team for the dogfight of the SEC. He's proving right now he can be a title contender at Louisville and has the green light to take every troubled transfer from the big boys he can get. If you ask me he's got the perfect job where he can win 8 or 9 a year with a half decent team and nobody will worry about what a scumbag he is. I could be wrong but I imagine he's going to be in Louisville for the rest of his career.
It's called ego
 

Big John Stud

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"Football staff conducted their own untrained internal inquiries, outside of policy, which improperly discredited complainants and denied them the right to a fair, impartial and informed investigation, interim measures or processes promised under University policy. In some cases, internal steps gave the illusion of responsiveness to complainants but failed to provide a meaningful institutional response under Title IX. Further, because reports were not shared outside of athletics, the University missed critical opportunities to impose appropriate disciplinary action that would have removed offenders from campus and possibly precluded future acts of sexual violence against Baylor students. In some instances, the football program dismissed players for unspecified team violations and assisted them in transferring to other schools. As a result, some football coaches and staff abdicated responsibilities under Title IX and Clery; to student welfare; to the health and safety of complainants; and to Baylor’s institutional values."

Need more?
Hell yeah I need more. Who on the coaching staff conducted the inquiry? What specifically is wrong with them conducting an inquiry? How did they improperly discredit complainants? How did the deny them an informed investigation? There are no facts or allegations against Art Briles, what are they?
 

Shavers48

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Hell yeah I need more. Who on the coaching staff conducted the inquiry? What specifically is wrong with them conducting an inquiry? How did they improperly discredit complainants? How did the deny them an informed investigation? There are no facts or allegations against Art Briles, what are they?
people would rather assume he knew everything and acted in the worse possible way towards eveybody. that's just how it's done these days.