0-14 with 8 strikeouts. There was no scouting report on him opening weekend and now that there is, he will never see a fastball. His approach and swing on off speed pitches is not him being fooled. He just can't hit off speed at this level. What do you think SEC pitchers are going to do to him? We have to get Mac in the lineup regardless if it takes away from the defense.
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Did you just sarcastically rip a poster who may or may not be the dad of a player when there are about 400 player and coach bashers on this board including me?**
Besides, he is right about Poole.
I think Poole will turn it around sooner or later, but that don't mean we shouldn't try some other options.
And sarcasm is the staple of this board. If you step in the water, better make sure you can swim.
Y'all can get bent out of shape over our hitting, while the rest of us who have been following college baseball for a while remember that pitching is usually way ahead of hitting early on and you really cannot fully judge a team until April.
I remember some MSU teams that looked like **** early that became damned good team and those who looked unbeatable early only to fail miserably as the season went on.
And sarcasm is the staple of this board. If you step in the water, better make sure you can swim.
Y'all can get bent out of shape over our hitting, while the rest of us who have been following college baseball for a while remember that pitching is usually way ahead of hitting early on and you really cannot fully judge a team until April.
I remember some MSU teams that looked like **** early that became damned good team and those who looked unbeatable early only to fail miserably as the season went on.
So you have been following college, high school, and pro baseball since 1968? Because I have. I knew what was coming in 2014/2015 Baseball very early on. Did you?
Yea I can count on 1 hand how many state baseball games I've missed since 1997. College baseball is my favorite sport so I know how early seasons go. I'm not even freaking out about our hitting as a team. I made a statement about Poole based on my observations of him. The way he swings at off speed to me is not him just slumping and he's going to get better. He's what my old coach use to call Larry the Lunger. He lunges at it and takes a tomahawk swing.
I'm not taking personal shots at the guy. This is a sports message board. I only have 10 posts so I guess I don't understand the rules. Are we only suppose to be positive at every player for each sport? Just moved to Helena from Jackson by the way Hoover Dawg. I love it over here.
Bash all you want, nobody can stop you. I'm sure a lot of posters will love it. Just a personal preference on my end when it comes to the baseball team since they are all running around out there paying most of their scholarship themselves. I tend to give them more leeway than I do football and basketball players.
On the Helena deal, while I hate to see MS people leaving MS I certainly understand it because I did it too. And yes B'ham is a good place, I'm in the Oak Mountain area.
On the Helena deal, while I hate to see MS people leaving MS I certainly understand it because I did it too. And yes B'ham is a good place, I'm in the Oak Mountain area.
So then I am sure it is totally unacceptable to criticize Mangum for lolligagging on that single that becomes a double that then leads to a run to expand the lead to 3-1. Meanwhile, we can't get the ball out of the infield. But hell, I guess Oregon is likely bound for Omaha this year.
Lolligagging is laziness no matter if you are the Retirning National hitting champ.
Lolligagging is laziness no matter if you are the Retirning National hitting champ.
Cann was so mad at mangum, he pulled Cody brown... I have no problem pulling Cody though
No, I was only six at the time, so you have more years on me.
Yes, that was one of the seasons I was speaking of.
I wasn't specifically posting in response to you bruiser except for the sarcasm part. I seldom post in response to posters who tend to post in a negative fashion... Especially when they obviously know much, much more that I do.
Folks are touchy right now because we have had little to hang our hat on this past sports season.
Make whatever posts you want, the rules are linked at the top and reading the lexicon is old, but a good start. The lexicon would have to updated every week to keep up with this crew, which makes it fun to read.
Back to your original post, Poole's start earned him a spot for a while but it won't continue if he keeps batting like he has.
Glad you like Jackson.
Im not sure
what some of y'all expected, given how many were drafted from last year's squad and injured preseason. This ain't the 80's. Some of us have been saying this for a few weeks now.
what some of y'all expected, given how many were drafted from last year's squad and injured preseason. This ain't the 80's. Some of us have been saying this for a few weeks now.
The same thing I expect every year in Baseball. To be playing for SEC Regular Season Championship. That will never change with me. MSU should play for Regular Seaaon Championships every year.
Based on what? The 1 that we have won since 1990...
We have a nice program and great history but some of you guys build it up too much.
This is a
dumb response.
If you cant accept the fact that it's not the 80's anymore, that's on you, not me.
dumb response.
If you cant accept the fact that it's not the 80's anymore, that's on you, not me.
That would be nice to say expectations for all would be that high, but we have to be realistic. It would be nice to find the kind of stability teams like LSU enjoy year in and out. We need to find a way to get to that point, but it's clear we aren't there yet.
When you played, how many schools in the nation, let alone the SEC, put as much into baseball as they do now?
We ain't the only game in town now, and consequently, it is simply harder to compete.
That's what I want. Trips to the CWS every four years is not too much to ask. We should be a top 5 program, if you think that is impossible then you are confusing baseball with football.
This is insanity. Just shows a lack of understanding of what's actually happening in the college game and the deck stacked against us. Since we're sports translating -- you basically just said "Tennessee should be a top 5 football program -- even if they actually only gave out 40 overall football scholarships". Yeah -- it's not happening. And that = our baseball program.
So what tangible thing means we deserve this top 5 program?
This is the funny thing to me. We have a segment of fans that think it should miraculously just happen for us because it did in the 80s -- under a whole different set of rules. That argument defaults to the fan support(which comes down to money). Well -- here is the official federal revenues for the SEC baseball teams as of 2015, the most recent year available.
| Institution Name | Baseball Men's Team Revenue |
| Vandy | 5985204 |
| LSU | 5846638 |
| Ole Miss | 4639931 |
| aTm | 3644668 |
| Arky | 3643967 |
| SC | 3138469 |
| MSU | 2210649 |
| Mizzou | 2116608 |
| Florida | 1316727 |
| Bama | 1134040 |
| Auburn | 615662 |
| Tennessee | 609153 |
| Georgia | 592123 |
| UK | 426908 |
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Maybe we should
be a top 5 program, and maybe we shouldn't, but the fact is, we aren't. Just because some clown grills hamburgers on a beatup truck, doesn't mean we are. What's happened over the last 20 years has completely changed college baseball. Hell TCU is #1 in the country. Coastal freaking Carolina won it all. People seem to think that because we were good, 30 years ago (when nobody gave a ****) that we somehow should automatically be good now (when everyone does give a ****). If we want to be a top 5 program, it's going to take a number of factors. Consistency being the main one, and Cohen started to change that (and yet folks still clamored for his firing).
be a top 5 program, and maybe we shouldn't, but the fact is, we aren't. Just because some clown grills hamburgers on a beatup truck, doesn't mean we are. What's happened over the last 20 years has completely changed college baseball. Hell TCU is #1 in the country. Coastal freaking Carolina won it all. People seem to think that because we were good, 30 years ago (when nobody gave a ****) that we somehow should automatically be good now (when everyone does give a ****). If we want to be a top 5 program, it's going to take a number of factors. Consistency being the main one, and Cohen started to change that (and yet folks still clamored for his firing).
You are dead on.
The days of a hand full of teams dominating college baseball is long, long gone. The other schools are putting more emphasis into their baseball programs, not just the programs like MSU, LSU, FSU, Cal State, etc.
I think the last program to dominate the scene for several years in a row was LSU in the 90's till they toned down the bats and balls.
On top of that, MLB is taking MANY more players from college than they did a couple of decades ago. Couple that with scholarship limitations and it is difficult to reload from one year to the next. There are some schools that have the ability to work around the scholarship thing like Vanderbilt.
If the NCAA would give us more scholarships and increase the roster, then we would be closer to just reloading each year.
The days of a hand full of teams dominating college baseball is long, long gone. The other schools are putting more emphasis into their baseball programs, not just the programs like MSU, LSU, FSU, Cal State, etc.
I think the last program to dominate the scene for several years in a row was LSU in the 90's till they toned down the bats and balls.
On top of that, MLB is taking MANY more players from college than they did a couple of decades ago. Couple that with scholarship limitations and it is difficult to reload from one year to the next. There are some schools that have the ability to work around the scholarship thing like Vanderbilt.
If the NCAA would give us more scholarships and increase the roster, then we would be closer to just reloading each year.
I think you're getting the words 'hope' and 'expect' confused. You can hope for MSU to play for the championship every year, but it's irresponsible to expect them to. There's not a team in America who can expect that to happen. Every team in our conference will have down years every so often. There's two teams in major collegiate sports who can say different: Bama football and UCONN WBB. Even UK didn't make the NCAA tournament in 2013. We have, what, 7 pitchers out for the year with Tommy John with some of those were elite prospects who could be weekend starters. You can't expect to compete for **** when you have that many injuries to your pitching staff.
We had some pretty ****** seasons in the 80s too. 1980, 1982, 1986, most of 1987 (had to win the last game of the season to even make the SECT, then won it to get the auto bid to a regional).
it's total reported baseball revenue per the equity in athletics disclosure act. Not sure exactly how our accounting works on the breakdown and how the bulldog club factors. What we do have is the ability to raise a ton of baseball money quickly within our fan base for pressing needs -- this just paints a different picture of the than most seem to think exists in the day to day nuts and bolts.
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