Positives and Negatives of 4 Teams joining SEC?
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What does it do for TV deals and bowl games? It will make it harder on OM and State I think in football.
a year is a long term negative for MSU. You can throw Ole Miss , Vandy and Kentucky in that same mix. I`m not saying I know that will happen but I know it would be bad for us if it did.
the move to 9 conference games every year. With 7 division games, is the SEC going to drop permanent cross-division opponent and rotate 2 teams? Or keep the permanent opponent and rotate one team?
OOC scheduling will become even more important considering you will now have to win 3 conference games in order to become bowl eligible
OOC scheduling will become even more important considering you will now have to win 3 conference games in order to become bowl eligible
that one idea that is floating around is going to two rotating and killing the permanent cross division.
All 16 teams would be grouped into two's:
Texas A&M-LSU
Missouri-Arkansas
MSU-Ole Miss
Alabama-Auburn
FSU-Florida
USC-Clemson
Georgia-Tennessee
Kentucky-Vanderbilt
These would be your SEC travel partners in the Olympic sports: On a volleyball/soccer weekend, MSU would host FSU and Florida, and the next weekend travel to Missouri and Arkansas.
In football scheduling, year 1, MSU would play at Kentucky and host Vanderbilt, year 2 at Vandy and host Kentucky. Years 3-4 would be UGA/UT, 4-6 would be USC/Clemson, 7-8 would be FSU-Florida. Ole Miss would have the same opponents with opposite home/away every year.
Basketball scheduling - Full 15 game round robin with a 16th game against your group team. We would continue to play Ole Miss at home and away every year.
Baseball scheduling: This is where it gets interesting. Obviously there would be 7, 3-game series against all of your division opponents. Baseball would go to a 33 game schedule and have four rotators every two years. (e.g. Year 1-2 we would have UK, Vandy, UGA, UT and Year 3-4 we'd have USC, Clemson, FSU, Florida) OR you could go to a 29-game schedule where you played 3-game series against your division, and everyone played cross division games in the midweek in a travel partner sequence.
All 16 teams would be grouped into two's:
Texas A&M-LSU
Missouri-Arkansas
MSU-Ole Miss
Alabama-Auburn
FSU-Florida
USC-Clemson
Georgia-Tennessee
Kentucky-Vanderbilt
These would be your SEC travel partners in the Olympic sports: On a volleyball/soccer weekend, MSU would host FSU and Florida, and the next weekend travel to Missouri and Arkansas.
In football scheduling, year 1, MSU would play at Kentucky and host Vanderbilt, year 2 at Vandy and host Kentucky. Years 3-4 would be UGA/UT, 4-6 would be USC/Clemson, 7-8 would be FSU-Florida. Ole Miss would have the same opponents with opposite home/away every year.
Basketball scheduling - Full 15 game round robin with a 16th game against your group team. We would continue to play Ole Miss at home and away every year.
Baseball scheduling: This is where it gets interesting. Obviously there would be 7, 3-game series against all of your division opponents. Baseball would go to a 33 game schedule and have four rotators every two years. (e.g. Year 1-2 we would have UK, Vandy, UGA, UT and Year 3-4 we'd have USC, Clemson, FSU, Florida) OR you could go to a 29-game schedule where you played 3-game series against your division, and everyone played cross division games in the midweek in a travel partner sequence.
that doing away with the permanent cross division is the only way to make it work with this many teams. But not having the Bama/Tenn and Auburn/UGA games every year will be rather disappointing (I am sure I will get over it pretty quickly)
And it is. That rivalry game is NOT going to be broken up, and neither is Auburn-Georgia. I look for maybe a pod system. 4 pods of 4 teams each. You play the 3 teams in your pod plus 1 team from each of the other 3 pods every year. Every two years you rotate which pods are paired together to make 2 divisions. Advantages: Good rotation of opponents, you play every team at least twice every 6 years. Pretty good comparability of schedules within the divisions. Keeps more traditional rivalries together Disadvantage: Divisions change every two years.
I'd group the pods like this:
A&M, Mizzou, Ark, LSU
MSU, UM, Bama, Aub
UF, FSU, UGA, Vandy
UK, UT, USC, Clemson
I'd group the pods like this:
A&M, Mizzou, Ark, LSU
MSU, UM, Bama, Aub
UF, FSU, UGA, Vandy
UK, UT, USC, Clemson
Although I'd love to get Vandy as our pernament opponent and the Rebs pick up Florida as their pernament opponent.
I would assume you would take the 2 teams with the best overall conference record and put them in the conference championship game. Doesn't the NCAA only allow one extra game after the regular season to determine the conference champion? If you won your division but still didn't finish in the top two in the conference you wouldn't have anything to show for it (except may a kick *** banner)
<p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="2">From the outside looking in at the SEC, I have long admired the
conference. It always seemed to me that
they really valued the history and the rivalries of their schools. They recognized that collectively they are
stronger – especially when treated as equals – and that ultimately led to conferencerecognitionand more
money. </font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="2">EVERY game in the SEC is a “big game” meaning more ticket sales, more
merchandise sales, bigger TV deals, etc.<span></span>More money means a stronger athletic program which leads to nationwide
name recognition. <span>Growing up,</span>I lived in far west Texas ("Friday Night Lights" baby!!!), but I knew who the SEC schools were because of
their history and football.<span> </span>I watched
them on TV for the sheer enjoyment of the game.<span></span>I even got accepted to LSU and Alabama, but in the end decided to stay
closer to home.<span> </span>The thing is I knew who
these schools were and what they stood for from over a thousand miles away.</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="2">Also, academically, the SEC schools really are all powerful institutions
despite the jokes and often weak athletic graduation rates. In fact, TAMU and State are so much alike academically that I really don't see how this helps the SEC grow. You guys would definitely be a force to be reckoned with when it comes to engineering, agriculture and veterinary medicine. </font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="2">Bottom line – I really don’t know why the SEC would want to “fix
what ain’t broken’.”</font></p>
conference. It always seemed to me that
they really valued the history and the rivalries of their schools. They recognized that collectively they are
stronger – especially when treated as equals – and that ultimately led to conferencerecognitionand more
money. </font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="2">EVERY game in the SEC is a “big game” meaning more ticket sales, more
merchandise sales, bigger TV deals, etc.<span></span>More money means a stronger athletic program which leads to nationwide
name recognition. <span>Growing up,</span>I lived in far west Texas ("Friday Night Lights" baby!!!), but I knew who the SEC schools were because of
their history and football.<span> </span>I watched
them on TV for the sheer enjoyment of the game.<span></span>I even got accepted to LSU and Alabama, but in the end decided to stay
closer to home.<span> </span>The thing is I knew who
these schools were and what they stood for from over a thousand miles away.</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="2">Also, academically, the SEC schools really are all powerful institutions
despite the jokes and often weak athletic graduation rates. In fact, TAMU and State are so much alike academically that I really don't see how this helps the SEC grow. You guys would definitely be a force to be reckoned with when it comes to engineering, agriculture and veterinary medicine. </font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="2">Bottom line – I really don’t know why the SEC would want to “fix
what ain’t broken’.”</font></p>
But then again I would like to win the lottery every week and have a solid gold pony too, so that should about cover fantasy land.
The college landscape is moving to 16 team conferences. Not a huge fan but I don't get to choose that. I think the SEC is being smart by getting out in front of this thing and ensuring we get the teams we want. Everyone is already chasing our tails on this and we will be done while everyone else is picking up the wreckage. Bottom line is that the move to 16 team super conferences is going to screw a lot of conferences and individual schools. By being at the tip of the spear the SEC is ensuring our conference and our teams benefit instead of getting screwed.
The college landscape is moving to 16 team conferences. Not a huge fan but I don't get to choose that. I think the SEC is being smart by getting out in front of this thing and ensuring we get the teams we want. Everyone is already chasing our tails on this and we will be done while everyone else is picking up the wreckage. Bottom line is that the move to 16 team super conferences is going to screw a lot of conferences and individual schools. By being at the tip of the spear the SEC is ensuring our conference and our teams benefit instead of getting screwed.