Prescott Vs. Wallace

futaba.79

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I wonder who's better?

Williams/Fitzgerald/Staley or Kincaid/Buchanan?

Because with all this hype, that might wind up being just as important.
 

BirminghamDAWG

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The writer confused the two Mississippi schools in an article ABOUT THE TWO MISSISSIPPI SCHOOLS.

In reference to Dak - "Obviously, the players around him aren’t equal to what Tebow had, but Prescott may have more upside. He led Ole Miss with 829 rushing yards in 11 games in 2013, clearing the 100-yard mark four different times. He’s the quintessential dual-threat signal caller."
 

Red87

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Eh

Wallace has accounted for 54 touchdowns in only two seasons so far. Last year, with a hurt shoulder, he still accounted for 26. By the time he's finished here he will have accounted for over 80 touchdowns. It will be interesting to see if Dak can even come close to 54 touchdowns in two seasons, much less 80 plus in three.
 

Confucius Say

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Agreed. I'm guessing from the content of the article, the author was equating arm talent to arm strength. Assuming that, no question dak has stronger arm.

Also, Bo is not the best game manager in sec. First, he is a play maker in their offense, not a game manager. Second, he turns the ball over at way too high a clip to be a great game manager.
 

muddawgs

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You realize Dak

Wallace has accounted for 54 touchdowns in only two seasons so far. Last year, with a hurt shoulder, he still accounted for 26. By the time he's finished here he will have accounted for over 80 touchdowns. It will be interesting to see if Dak can even come close to 54 touchdowns in two seasons, much less 80 plus in three.

accounted for 23 touchdowns last season for Msu sharing time with Tyler and missing a couple of games. Also Bo only accounted for 24 last season. 1 more than Prescott being the full time starter while Dak shared playing time. The only way Dak doesn't come close to 54 touchdowns this season is because of injury. If he stays healthy, he will easily surpass 80 TD's.
 
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Wallace has accounted for 54 touchdowns in only two seasons so far. Last year, with a hurt shoulder, he still accounted for 26. By the time he's finished here he will have accounted for over 80 touchdowns. It will be interesting to see if Dak can even come close to 54 touchdowns in two seasons, much less 80 plus in three.

You realize that Dak had 25 total TDs last year (the previous poster forgot to include his two TD receptions)- and he did this while splitting time with another QB and missing a couple of games because of injury?

And no, Bo only accounted for 24 TDs while starting every game. So, Dak accounted for more total TDs last year in about 2-3 fewer games worth of playing time, while only being a part-time starter when he was healthy... Are you sure TDs accounted for is still an argument you want to try and make?
 
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SyonaraStanz

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Wallace has accounted for 54 touchdowns in only two seasons so far. Last year, with a hurt shoulder, he still accounted for 26. By the time he's finished here he will have accounted for over 80 touchdowns. It will be interesting to see if Dak can even come close to 54 touchdowns in two seasons, much less 80 plus in three.

Sounds like someone expects Dak to go pro after this year..... We appreciate the confidence. Also, why does everyone associated with OM have to constantly disclaim that Bo had a hurt shoulder last year? And the year before for that matter?
 

MaronMatters

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You realize that Dak had 25 total TDs last year (the previous poster forgot to include his two TD receptions)- and he did this while splitting time with another QB and missing a couple of games because of injury?

And no, Bo only accounted for 24 TDs while starting every game. So, Dak accounted for more total TDs last year in about 2-3 fewer games worth of playing time, while only being a part-time starter when he was healthy.

Come on back, Red. This can't be. We need someone like you to shut these dumb leghumpers up.
 

121Josey

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Wallace has accounted for 54 touchdowns in only two seasons so far. Last year, with a hurt shoulder, he still accounted for 26. By the time he's finished here he will have accounted for over 80 touchdowns. It will be interesting to see if Dak can even come close to 54 touchdowns in two seasons, much less 80 plus in three.

This is just ignorant. I would be in-bear-assed if a State fan posted something like this.

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BiscuitEater

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One reason ...

Wallace has accounted for 54 touchdowns in only two seasons so far.

Was that OM HAD to throw the ball due to relative lack of rushing ability.

QB Dak Prescott was the #11 rusher in the SEC with 829 yards which was 266 yards more than OM's leading rusher.
 

HD6

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See, this is why you need to let Ole Miss fans on your board. So when they make a complete jackass of themselves, you can call them out for it.
 

RebelBruiser

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Pocket presence goes to Bo because he's white. Athleticism goes to Dak because he's not.

It's pre-season. Going into the season, Dak needs to become a more consistent passer, and Bo needs to show he does have the arm strength now to make the downfield game a threat, and he needs to avoid bad decisions.

The season's just over 3 weeks away, and we'll get to see which one, if either, made the necessary improvements. I like both of them and think they both can and will have good years. I'd take either one to QB my team, though both have deficiencies.
 

Philly Dawg

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I stopped reading when it said that Bo Wallace had a tremendous arm. Wait, what?
 

gymdawg.sixpack

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Ok so he's always beenn hurt and im pretty sure it turned out he had the flu after every "bad" game he played last yr too? I heard this allllll last summer..... "oh just wait, bo was hurt all last yr. Wait to u see what he can REALLY do."
Look the boy is decent. The offense is condensed around his abilities and u have peaked with the success he can bring. You best hope d-coordinators dont watch clips of last yrs egg bowl. Its a blueprint of how to **** yall down. If theyre smart, ur in for a long and disappointing yr.
 

EAVdog

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Wallace has accounted for 54 touchdowns in only two seasons so far. Last year, with a hurt shoulder, he still accounted for 26. By the time he's finished here he will have accounted for over 80 touchdowns. It will be interesting to see if Dak can even come close to 54 touchdowns in two seasons, much less 80 plus in three.

don't forget battling HIV like recurring flu symptoms for basically the whole season except for the weeks that y'all won.
 

hatfieldms

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Where in the hell has red gone?

I thought for sure he would come back to defend his idiotic statements
 
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dotcomdawg

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Answer this question

Wallace almost came to MSU. If he would have come, would he be starting this year?

Answer: No

He knew that, too.

Glad we've got Dak
 

Singer

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Pocket presence goes to Bo because he's white. Athleticism goes to Dak because he's not.

It's pre-season. Going into the season, Dak needs to become a more consistent passer, and Bo needs to show he does have the arm strength now to make the downfield game a threat, and he needs to avoid bad decisions.

The season's just over 3 weeks away, and we'll get to see which one, if either, made the necessary improvements. I like both of them and think they both can and will have good years. I'd take either one to QB my team, though both have deficiencies.
Dak is half white and color has nothing to do with it. Who's the better leader? Who makes people around him better? And who has more respect from his coaches and players? Hmmmmm. Is that debatable at all? I don't think so.
 

RebelBruiser

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Wallace almost came to MSU. If he would have come, would he be starting this year?

Answer: No

He knew that, too.

Glad we've got Dak

Yea, he's not a fit for your offense either. Tyler Russell is a better QB than Dak in the right kind of offense, but he wasn't in yours because Mullen couldn't/wouldn't adjust his offense in a way to utilize Russell's skills.
 

RebelBruiser

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Ok so he's always beenn hurt and im pretty sure it turned out he had the flu after every "bad" game he played last yr too? I heard this allllll last summer..... "oh just wait, bo was hurt all last yr. Wait to u see what he can REALLY do."
Look the boy is decent. The offense is condensed around his abilities and u have peaked with the success he can bring. You best hope d-coordinators dont watch clips of last yrs egg bowl. Its a blueprint of how to **** yall down. If theyre smart, ur in for a long and disappointing yr.


Actually, you didn't come up with the blueprint. That was Nick Saban. The book was out there by the time the Egg Bowl rolled around.

If you had a good interior DL, you could shut us down last year in the running game. The reason why is because you could commit everyone to taking away the jet sweep/outside run, and you could still beat our weak interior OL without having a numbers advantage inside.

And as we got later in the year and Bo started to struggle getting the ball downfield more, teams could cheat with their safeties and take away the short passing game too. We were one dimensional in our run and pass game by the end of the year due to personnel shortcomings.

In an option offense, you have to be able to execute all aspects of the offense in order to capitalize on what the defense gives you. If you can't capitalize where the defense is giving you numbers, you're going to fail.

All year, we couldn't capitalize against a good front with the inside run, even when we had numbers, so the teams with good fronts would give us numbers inside and dare us to run to the numbers.

Later in the year, we added in the lack of the deep passing game as Bo's arm got weaker, and we became one dimensional in the passing game too.

It wasn't the offensive system. It was the personnel and their shortcomings last year. If we can execute better this year with the inside run when given numbers and we can execute a deep passing game this year, then that "formula" for shutting us down won't exist anymore. It'll be pick your poison, as it is with any option offense, and we'll be able to attack the numbers with more success.
 
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aTotal360

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I have to ask...are you insinuating Tyler Sysky is why Bama shut you down?
 

coach66

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I agree Russell had no chance in our offense but I will also say he holds the

ball too long to have success in most offenses unless he has all day to throw.

I think his lack of success catching on with a pro offense may prove this.
 

RebelBruiser

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I have to ask...are you insinuating Tyler Sysky is why Bama shut you down?

No, like I said, it was a personnel issue. For us, it was an issue with our weakness from guard to guard up front last year, especially when Morris went down for the season in Game 1.

We couldn't block good DTs with those 3 guys, which allowed teams with good DTs to not have to commit anything to stopping our interior running game. It was that simple.

In the style of offense Freeze uses, you're going to have numbers somewhere on the field every play if you're using one of the multi-option plays. It's up to the QB to make the right read, and then it's up to you being able to execute against those numbers. If you can't win the one on ones enough, teams can scheme to force you into your weakness. The whole season we had a weakness with the interior OL that could be exploited.

By the end of the season, we had added a weakness in ability to execute a deep passing game. I don't know if it was the Bo flu thing or simply his arm losing strength throughout the year, but he was a different QB by the end of the year. He couldn't stretch the field like he did at times earlier in the year. It really made Collins's job easy. All he had to do was commit numbers to the right parts of the field, and then let our weaknesses beat us.
 

patdog

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I don't agree that Russell had no chance in our offense. He was pretty good college QB in our offense. He was more limited by his tendency to hold the ball too long and the fact that every aspect of his game is just slow-paced and deliberate than he was by our offense.
 

engie

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Wallace has accounted for 54 touchdowns in only two seasons so far. Last year, with a hurt shoulder, he still accounted for 26. By the time he's finished here he will have accounted for over 80 touchdowns. It will be interesting to see if Dak can even come close to 54 touchdowns in two seasons, much less 80 plus in three.

Bo has 55TDs in 1080 "plays". That's a TD every 19.6 "plays".
Dak has 33TDs in 462 "plays". That's a TD every 14 "plays".
 

engie

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Bo has been sacked 50 times in 773 pass attempts. Once every 15.46 throws.
Dak has been sacked 9 times in 296 pass attempts. Once every 32.89 throws.
 

coach66

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Ole St. Nick provided a pretty good blue print which Collins seemed to use as

as well. He put the tackles out wider which took away the outside game and forced the QB to
keep more and they had someone keeping a much closer eye on Bo as we did. When you couple that with the fact that you guys couldn't really throw the ball down field effectively your offense seemed to struggle more after the Bama game.