If you believed that KEA was having a negative effect of your child’s mental health and education, I would hope it would make your list. So, I don’t think you answered the question yet that was kind of where this all started...who is responsible for keeping schools closed?You think I love KEA?
No it's just I am not consumed by them like some of you all seem to be. When I woke up this morning if I had made a list of things that I liked and/or disliked in my life the KEA wouldn't have made the top 100,000 things because to be honest with you outside of this conversation I have not even talked about the KEA probably ever.
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What's still hanging over the State budget's head? I assume like all things it'll be money and power.
I can't answer that question though. Maybe simple as protecting that small red shirt vocal minority.
Believe Caulk was also pretty honest about JCPS, the number of teachers that opt'd out, compared to the number of families requesting in person classes doesn't work. They literally don't have enough teachers. So rather than make them work, like everyone else, they are supported by the union, can't be punished, replaced, or fired if they choose virtual teaching. <----that's reading tea leaves and assumptions. Not factual.
I think this is pretty much a knock-out punch. Debate over.
Not sure why anyone would think KEA is even related to school closures 
"The Kentucky Education Association (KEA) is urging school officials to not reopen to in-person classes, saying “doing anything else is simply irresponsible.”
"The Kentucky Education Association (KEA) is urging school officials to not reopen to in-person classes, saying “doing anything else is simply irresponsible.”
I’d say 90% of the teachers we know are wanting to go back to the classroom. How do I know? Because my wife teaches and the vast majority of her friends are teachers.
Are they letting their administrators, their local KEA and state KEA know that?
Honest question - is the teachers union not paid by teachers to represent them?
When is their next march/protest/sick-out to get themselves back in the classroom?
My stepmom is a teacher.. she just wants to go back to get out of the house and away from my Dad lol.
Maybe teachers should take control of their unions if they all really want to go back to work.
honest question... don’t most employees belonging to a union go unpaid when they miss work?
I'm not sure how anyone with the means to do so who lives in Jefferson or Fayette County can not put their kids in private school until this charade ends. Sadly, probably more than 85% of parents simply can't afford to do so.
Look, you have to find away. Fortunately been able to do private school fine and we love ours, have been in person the whole time.
Drive Uber on the weekends if you have to, move to Oldham county etc. Do what you have to do. The damage done by JCPS will not be undone any time soon.
I mean, do you understand the **** show JCPS is going to be when they (maybe) go back next fall? the disparity of the kids that did even a little remote learning via those that didn’t do anything at all will be huge....and they’ll have to (rightfully) teach to the lowest denominator. It’s going to be disaster that I don’t think can ever really be undone.
Im not sure I understand what you’re asking? I’ve never been part of a union, mine was a legit question, I don’t really know how they work.
And there are long wait lists for private schools now. We signed our son up in late June.
Just shows how much the taxpayers are getting f**ked by the teachers union right now. Kids aren't in school, parents cant work, teachers getting paid...
There is an O. Henry level of irony about the weird narrative from teacher's unions about lockdowns being somehow linked to systemic racism, etc., especially in Louisville and Lexington where poor kids are likelier to be black than the rest of Kentucky.
When this is over, you're going to see unbelievable disparity between the haves and have nots. It will be staggering and a generational shift.
I'm a lawyer who often takes appointments in child neglect and abuse cases to represent both the accused parents and the children involved. Schools were the leading reliable source for reports of child neglect and abuse (there is a whole lot of baby mama drama involved in the anonymous reporting hotline.).
There is a shockingly large swath of the population that can barely be trusted to not snort meth off their toddlers' (invariably plural) heads under the best of circumstances. Now those kids will have been left in those environments for more than a year with nothing to do but turn on a laptop enough to keep the police from showing up while White Wayne and his wife have given their kids a culinary tour of the world and taught them graduate level mathematics.
The perversity of the narrative coming from teachers' unions versus the effects of their actions would be hilarious if it was not so horrifically sad.
Coming from DeSales, trust me, they have programs for everyone. So reach out to the schools if you have questions.
Bonds, If you have interest, I wouldn't wait. The lists are probably long but a bunch will go back public if/when FCPS decide.
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Can't imagine why anyone would think Unions and Politicians are responsible for schools being closed. Lol. When Gavin Newsome is begging someone to open up, we know we're past the point of no return.
Kathryn Person, a high school teacher in Chicago, wants to continue teaching remotely so she doesn't risk the health of her 91-year-old grandmother and an aunt battling lung cancer. Person said she trusts the union will fight school officials if they try to punish teachers who won't go back.
WTF? Seriously WTF are we doing here?!?
Good thing nobody who works at grocery store, or convenient store, or restaurant or Walmart has older relatives or sick relatives.
Its literally a completely different standard for teachers than any other job - it’s like they’ve been given god like status with unyielding power. I’ve never seen anything like it.
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Why do rich privileged kids get to go to school but public kids can’t?
If this bs was about the kids, that question would have been raised over and over again nationally and kids would have been back in class last year.
If this bs was about the kids, that question would have been raised over and over again nationally and kids would have been back in class last year.
If you really want to piss one off, point out that they make well above the state average salary to work 180 days vs the 250 days everyone else works.
That $38,000 a year starting salary is really da bomb when you’re sitting on $80,000 of student loan debt. If you want a real clue on how enticing it is, talk to an experienced principal about filling positions. Ten years ago, there were 30-40 qualified applicants for every posted teaching position. Fast forward to today, after screening out unqualified applicants, it’s difficult to fill many positions. And when you do, the attrition rate is greater than 50% after five years.
After spending 30 plus years in private sector work closely tied to the public education community, I’ll attest that the “war on public education” has taken its toll. If your end goal is to do away with it, congrats, you’re getting closer to it daily.
If you take $80,000 in loans to get a $38,000 job, you're too stupid to be responsible for educating others.
Average starting salary in Kentucky for a college grad is under $30k for 250 days a year of work. Good thing no one other than teachers have to deal with student loans.
That is $52,778 if they worked 250 days, that’s not too shabby to start.
I was a teacher for 2 years and I got a summer job.
Retirement at 49 not bad either.
I doubt the “war on public education” is the problem.
Tf, man.
Every finance offer I had out of Carol MF Gatton was 30-35 which I thankfully shunned to make Paddock money. It’s called starting for a reason. My In-laws retired lols at 55 as teachers making a combined $180 ish and still have benefits, pension, Beshear wipes their asses for them occasionally.
I DEMAND TO MAKE $75 RITE OUT OF COLLAGE AND HAVE MY DET COVERED AS WELL THANKS GOD BLESS DONT HATE ON TEACHERS TABKS
Every finance offer I had out of Carol MF Gatton was 30-35 which I thankfully shunned to make Paddock money. It’s called starting for a reason. My In-laws retired lols at 55 as teachers making a combined $180 ish and still have benefits, pension, Beshear wipes their asses for them occasionally.
I DEMAND TO MAKE $75 RITE OUT OF COLLAGE AND HAVE MY DET COVERED AS WELL THANKS GOD BLESS DONT HATE ON TEACHERS TABKS
Hiring and attrition are also issues no other sector faces.
This comment is closer to the reality than would have seemed conceivable 11 months ago but it isn't the "private sector" or whatever who is causing that to happen. Teachers unions have stopped doing their jobs in the face of overwhelming evidence of how stupid and irresponsible that is and seemingly don't care.
If anything, the PUBLIC is screaming for public education and the political priorities of teachers unions appear so divorced from reality that it just looks like disgustingly high stakes poker played with children's futures.
Now would be a great time for public schools to flex their muscles to show their worth (which is vast) because most sane people are working around the system to get their kids in any decent school that is in-person and it will only harm the teachers unions in the long run because of just how absurd the situation is.
50% is pretty damn high though. If you have 50% attrition you either aren’t doing something right culturally or are paying people ****** wages so they are constantly leaving for better jobs.Hiring and attrition are also issues no other sector faces.
It's not that high at entry level. People don't stay put any longer. Try running a call center. Lolz.
Because people don’t get paid **** to work in call centers. Plus the job is awful.
At least 25% of that is naughty teacher related.