Pro/Con - Anyone with experience…

[dawgstate]

being informed your department will no longer be part of the company and will be replaced by a contractor who you will (now, most likely) work for assuming you agree. Otherwise, beat it, I guess. This is in healthcare. Not sure of the future employer’s details/benefits at this time but assume PTO will be paid out. Should sick time be paid out/carryover based on prior policy? Looks like there was a MS bill from early 2025 to ensure this but not sure it passed. Would these incidents be followed with a non-compete? Any chance these come with new salary negotiations as this is new employer?

Any insight is appreciated! Sounds like this will conclude in 60 days but decision to stay or go would be required soon.

 

[ZombieKissinger]

Haven’t done this to people myself in healthcare, but I nearly accepted a leadership position at a system where they mentioned last minute “Oh, by the way, we’ve already decided we’re outsourcing all of inpatient staffing in your department to a vendor. Existing staff can either sign or not, we don’t care much.”

I didn’t accept that position, partially related to that dynamic, though I understand the need to go that route at times.

Sick and PTO payout would depend on current contract. Can’t speak to MS law on this because I haven’t lived there in over ten years. They may try to loop some sick/PTO carryover into the new contract, so you’d have to see. Everything is negotiable, including salary, but their willingness would depend on how many options they have. They might try to loop in a noncompete but often it’s more to scare someone than to be actually enforceable.

What kind of work do you do?

 

[DT4248]

Assuming this is healthcare IT in which this is becoming more and more and more common. You should get your contracted PTO/discreet sick time paid out or rolled over. Unfortunately each case will be different and to get a clear answer you'll need to go to HR most likely and even then they may not know off hand. I'm not sure I'd ask and I'd negotiate the changeover from a position of power if you are valuable to the company. If they need to keep you - they'll do what it takes.

Benefits like health insurance are definitely going to change and likely be worse than working directly for the hospital.

Curious where this is. Heard a few rumblings of outsourcing around the State. Would this happen to be a coastal job with a good melody or something regionalized, perhaps in the southern part of the center of the state?

 

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[ZombieKissinger]

Assuming this is healthcare IT in which this is becoming more and more and more common. You should get your contracted PTO/discreet sick time paid out or rolled over. Unfortunately each case will be different and to get a clear answer you'll need to go to HR most likely and even then they may not know off hand. I'm not sure I'd ask and I'd negotiate the changeover from a position of power if you are valuable to the company. If they need to keep you - they'll do what it takes.

Benefits like health insurance are definitely going to change and likely be worse than working directly for the hospital.

Curious where this is. Heard a few rumblings of outsourcing around the State. Would this happen to be a coastal job with a good melody or something regionalized, perhaps in the southern part of the center of the state?

When the inpatient department I mentioned has its staffing outsourced, they outsourced IT around the same time

 

[Colonel Angus.sixpack]

Ask for their separation policy. Many times it gets updated slightly before a layoff event. Usually in their favor.

 

[dawgstate]

Assuming this is healthcare IT in which this is becoming more and more and more common. You should get your contracted PTO/discreet sick time paid out or rolled over. Unfortunately each case will be different and to get a clear answer you'll need to go to HR most likely and even then they may not know off hand. I'm not sure I'd ask and I'd negotiate the changeover from a position of power if you are valuable to the company. If they need to keep you - they'll do what it takes.

Benefits like health insurance are definitely going to change and likely be worse than working directly for the hospital.

Curious where this is. Heard a few rumblings of outsourcing around the State. Would this happen to be a coastal job with a good melody would be ancillary services and north of those areas.

This is the northern part of the state and covers ancillary services.

 

[dawgstudent]

Accept it and then find another job.

 

[OopsICroomedmypants]

Accept it and then find another job.

This is correct, along with always be looking for another job. Never be too loyal to an employer unless they want to give you a raise.

 

[eckie1]

I used to work for an umbrella company that owned multiple franchises of a major healthcare company.

They outsourced all of the infrastructure teams in IT, outside of a very small few they kept. Effective damn near immediately, they all became contractors. They did get some amount of severance, but I don’t think it amounted to much.

Believe it or not, we (software engineers) ended up with significantly better support from our infrastructure teams as a result. They managed to mix in new resources with the existing ones (who were complacent and sucked) and, based on location, were available 24/7.

Outside of the contractors losing their FTE benefits, it worked out. But, they were compensated a good bit more, so that helped mitigate things.

Also, as others have posted here, ALWAYS have your ears open for new positions. Give your employer quality work, but know they are always going to try to give you as little as they have to.