Probation

[9and4_rivals188421]

TLDR Version

We don't have enough good experienced players.

The Rest

Attrition happens everywhere, and programs fill gaps with transfers in and JUCO players, but just as a reference, it's interesting to note how many scholarship players are left from original recruiting classes, and then to compare those numbers to what programs on probation are limited to, in terms of scholarships, which is usually between 15 and 20 grants per year.

Nebraska's classes (original number/players left on active roster):
2018: 24/20
2017: 20/11
2016: 21/15
2015: 21/15
2014: 25/7 (Players left are Stoltenberg, Foster, Farmer, Gifford, Freedom, Newell and Wilbon)

Four-star recruits still on the roster:
2014: Farmer (starter), Wilbon (non-contributor)
2015: Morgan (starter), K. Davis (contributor), A. Anderson (non-contributor), E. Lee (occasional starter).
2016: L. Jackson (enigma, wrapped in a riddle), Dismuke (virtually a non-contributor), Raridon (non-contributor).
2017: G. Thomas (non-contributor), McQuitty (non-contributor).
2018: Tannor (early contributor), Cam Jones (Redshirt?), Miles Jones (RS?), A.Martinez (starter), CJ Smith (RS), Wildeman (RS), Jurgens (RS).

This doesn't mean NU should be 0-5, or that we have less talent than Troy, for example.

What it shows is that if you switch coaches and systems twice during any five-year period, and if many of the expected contributors leave the program, never develop or just weren't as good as advertised, you're left with a difficult situation.

Obvious observation #2: Water is wet.

 

[HuskerLLM]

Barnett is on a medical and not with the team

 

[dochay]

2017 is 20/11

 

[MOhusker12]

2017 is 20/11

So basically we are down a whole scholarship class.

 

[HuskerLLM]

If you take out former walk-ons that are on schollie, we only have 74 scholarship players right now and that includes non-contributors, so in a sense, yes...we are down one full recruiting class

 

[timnsun]

TLDR Version

We don't have enough good experienced players.

The Rest

Attrition happens everywhere, and programs fill gaps with transfers in and JUCO players, but just as a reference, it's interesting to note how many scholarship players are left from original recruiting classes, and then to compare those numbers to what programs on probation are limited to, in terms of scholarships, which is usually between 15 and 20 grants per year.

Nebraska's classes (original number/players left on active roster):
2018: 24/20
2017: 20/11
2016: 21/15
2015: 21/15
2014: 25/7 (Players left are Stoltenberg, Foster, Farmer, Gifford, Freedom, Newell and Wilbon)

Four-star recruits still on the roster:
2014: Farmer (starter), Wilbon (non-contributor)
2015: Morgan (starter), K. Davis (contributor), A. Anderson (non-contributor), E. Lee (occasional starter).
2016: L. Jackson (enigma, wrapped in a riddle), Dismuke (virtually a non-contributor), Raridon (non-contributor).
2017: G. Thomas (non-contributor), McQuitty (non-contributor).
2018: Tannor (early contributor), Cam Jones (Redshirt?), Miles Jones (RS?), A.Martinez (starter), CJ Smith (RS), Wildeman (RS), Jurgens (RS).

This doesn't mean NU should be 0-5, or that we have less talent than Troy, for example.

What it shows is that if you switch coaches and systems twice during any five-year period, and if many of the expected contributors leave the program, never develop or just weren't as good as advertised, you're left with a difficult situation.

Obvious observation #2: Water is wet.

Dang, that is telling... thanks for compiling this.

 

[HominidHusker]

TLDR Version

We don't have enough good experienced players.

The Rest

Attrition happens everywhere, and programs fill gaps with transfers in and JUCO players, but just as a reference, it's interesting to note how many scholarship players are left from original recruiting classes, and then to compare those numbers to what programs on probation are limited to, in terms of scholarships, which is usually between 15 and 20 grants per year.

Nebraska's classes (original number/players left on active roster):
2018: 24/20
2017: 20/11
2016: 21/15
2015: 21/15
2014: 25/7 (Players left are Stoltenberg, Foster, Farmer, Gifford, Freedom, Newell and Wilbon)

Four-star recruits still on the roster:
2014: Farmer (starter), Wilbon (non-contributor)
2015: Morgan (starter), K. Davis (contributor), A. Anderson (non-contributor), E. Lee (occasional starter).
2016: L. Jackson (enigma, wrapped in a riddle), Dismuke (virtually a non-contributor), Raridon (non-contributor).
2017: G. Thomas (non-contributor), McQuitty (non-contributor).
2018: Tannor (early contributor), Cam Jones (Redshirt?), Miles Jones (RS?), A.Martinez (starter), CJ Smith (RS), Wildeman (RS), Jurgens (RS).

This doesn't mean NU should be 0-5, or that we have less talent than Troy, for example.

What it shows is that if you switch coaches and systems twice during any five-year period, and if many of the expected contributors leave the program, never develop or just weren't as good as advertised, you're left with a difficult situation.

Obvious observation #2: Water is wet.

excellent post. I’ve been wanting to compile those numbers as it shows the state of the program more than anything else to me.

thanks for putting that together.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

TLDR Version

We don't have enough good experienced players.

The Rest

Attrition happens everywhere, and programs fill gaps with transfers in and JUCO players, but just as a reference, it's interesting to note how many scholarship players are left from original recruiting classes, and then to compare those numbers to what programs on probation are limited to, in terms of scholarships, which is usually between 15 and 20 grants per year.

Nebraska's classes (original number/players left on active roster):
2018: 24/20
2017: 20/11
2016: 21/15
2015: 21/15
2014: 25/7 (Players left are Stoltenberg, Foster, Farmer, Gifford, Freedom, Newell and Wilbon)

Four-star recruits still on the roster:
2014: Farmer (starter), Wilbon (non-contributor)
2015: Morgan (starter), K. Davis (contributor), A. Anderson (non-contributor), E. Lee (occasional starter).
2016: L. Jackson (enigma, wrapped in a riddle), Dismuke (virtually a non-contributor), Raridon (non-contributor).
2017: G. Thomas (non-contributor), McQuitty (non-contributor).
2018: Tannor (early contributor), Cam Jones (Redshirt?), Miles Jones (RS?), A.Martinez (starter), CJ Smith (RS), Wildeman (RS), Jurgens (RS).

This doesn't mean NU should be 0-5, or that we have less talent than Troy, for example.

What it shows is that if you switch coaches and systems twice during any five-year period, and if many of the expected contributors leave the program, never develop or just weren't as good as advertised, you're left with a difficult situation.

Obvious observation #2: Water is wet.

Won't argue with observation 1 or2

 

[msjgroup]

TLDR Version

We don't have enough good experienced players.

The Rest

Attrition happens everywhere, and programs fill gaps with transfers in and JUCO players, but just as a reference, it's interesting to note how many scholarship players are left from original recruiting classes, and then to compare those numbers to what programs on probation are limited to, in terms of scholarships, which is usually between 15 and 20 grants per year.

Nebraska's classes (original number/players left on active roster):
2018: 24/20
2017: 20/11
2016: 21/15
2015: 21/15
2014: 25/7 (Players left are Stoltenberg, Foster, Farmer, Gifford, Freedom, Newell and Wilbon)

Four-star recruits still on the roster:
2014: Farmer (starter), Wilbon (non-contributor)
2015: Morgan (starter), K. Davis (contributor), A. Anderson (non-contributor), E. Lee (occasional starter).
2016: L. Jackson (enigma, wrapped in a riddle), Dismuke (virtually a non-contributor), Raridon (non-contributor).
2017: G. Thomas (non-contributor), McQuitty (non-contributor).
2018: Tannor (early contributor), Cam Jones (Redshirt?), Miles Jones (RS?), A.Martinez (starter), CJ Smith (RS), Wildeman (RS), Jurgens (RS).

This doesn't mean NU should be 0-5, or that we have less talent than Troy, for example.

What it shows is that if you switch coaches and systems twice during any five-year period, and if many of the expected contributors leave the program, never develop or just weren't as good as advertised, you're left with a difficult situation.

Obvious observation #2: Water is wet.

Excellent post. Any insight about how many players that redshirt in year one make it on to be starters or significant contributors? Asking because it seems as though we will have a significant number of redshirts in the 2018 class. JD was a redshirt which is promising.

 

[SoFL Husker]

Reasons we suck, #72