Propaganda Barbie and her "alternative facts" statement....

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Not sure if this is more Orwellian or Nazi but disturbing nonetheless. Of course 46% of voters think this **** it cool. Just Donald being Donald......

Orwellian" is an adjective describing a situation, idea, or societal condition that George Orwell identified as being destructive to the welfare of a free and open society. It denotes an attitude and a brutal policy of draconian control by propaganda, surveillance, misinformation, denial of truth, and manipulation of the past, including the "unperson"—a person whose past existence is expunged from the public record and memory, practiced by modern repressive governments.
 
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Brennan is a *****...

the lying media is going to lose to Trump... that's just how it is...


Did you see the video sun-damaged Propaganda Barbie criticizing Trump during the primaries.....it was priceless!! She apparently will do anything for the spotlight.

So be honest, was the crowd 1 to 1.5 million per Donald and the "alternative facts" (her words not mine) of more like the 400,000 Fox News reported? Now keep in mind, there is not a single fact that supports anything over 400,000 including Metro ridership, hotel bookings, or parade attendance. Honestly, I really don't care about the attendance. It wasn't even an issue to Trump got wind of the numbers. Even the left-leaning folks at MSNBC said they wouldn't have been out in those conditions either. I thought about going because any inauguration is historic. But the weather made me and thousands more stay home.

Trump needs to hold the press responsible for their shoddy reporting. We can all agree with that. But for a world leader (or Spicer and Barbie) to call out an accurate report as false is damn troubling 82. "Alternative facts".....where are we going? Just like I (and even the press but not severely enough) called out Clinton and Obama for lying about Benghazi, I will call out Trump for his lies. It has to be done.
 
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Brennan is a *****...

the lying media is going to lose to Trump... that's just how it is...


[laughing]

Yeah, it's the media's fault that Trump is a narcissistic crybaby.

It's the media's fault Spicer came out and pitched a pack of lies.

It's the media's fault Spicer wouldn't take any questions from the media.

It's the media's fault Kellyanne used the term "alternate facts".

It's the media's fault they reported the rift between Trump and the intelligence agencies and then Trump lied and said there was never a rift between them.
 

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Trump has won the American vote and will now defeat the media...

obamapuppet and his media has brainwashed you sheeple... and it's sad...
 
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[laughing]

Yeah, it's the media's fault that Trump is a narcissistic crybaby.

It's the media's fault Spicer came out and pitched a pack of lies.

It's the media's fault Spicer wouldn't take any questions from the media.

It's the media's fault Kellyanne used the term "alternate facts".

It's the media's fault they reported the rift between Trump and the intelligence agencies and then Trump lied and said there was never a rift between them.

Trump's own words and tweets are evidence enough of thoughts on the intelligence agencies. 82 and others just ignore this stuff. Or they point back to what happened under Obama. I don't care where it started or how historically it was dealt with. My concern is simple, tell us the truth as honestly as national security allows.

Interestingly, Trump talked about giving government back to the people and immediately starts disseminating false information. IMMEDIATELY.... Troubling? Not so 46% of American voters apparently.
 
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Trump has won the American vote and will now defeat the media...

obamapuppet and his media has brainwashed you sheeple... and it's sad...

You think that defeating the media is a good thing? And the world wonders how 6 million Jews were exterminated.......
 
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yes, because Trump is Hitler... you are seriously brainwashed...

I don't think anyone is saying that but he is certainly using his playbook with respect to the media....and several on this board have already fallen for it, vilifying the media and hoping for their demise.
 

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Trump's own words and tweets are evidence enough of thoughts on the intelligence agencies. 82 and others just ignore this stuff. Or they point back to what happened under Obama. I don't care where it started or how historically it was dealt with. My concern is simple, tell us the truth as honestly as national security allows.

Interestingly, Trump talked about giving government back to the people and immediately starts disseminating false information. IMMEDIATELY.... Troubling? Not so 46% of American voters apparently.
Or they deflect to Hillary.
 

WVPATX

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You're better than this, comparing trump to Nazis is simply absurd


By the way, I watched the entire interview with Conway versus Chuck Todd and she destroyed him. I posted a picture by CNN that showed people backing up to the Washington Monument. I have no idea how many people were there nor does it matter. But I do know that 31 million people on TV watched the ceremony which was the second most in 36 years.
 

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You're better than this, comparing trump to Nazis is simply absurd
It's not though. It not the racist agenda that he is referencing. It is the attack of free press, nationalist sentiment, and attempts to vilify enemies as against the nation.
 

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It's not though. It not the racist agenda that he is referencing. It is the attack of free press, nationalist sentiment, and attempts to vilify enemies as against the nation.

He called her propaganda Barbie. What does that represent to you? Was Obama's mouthpiece a propagandist? When Obama tried to delegitimize FOXNews, was that not trying to accomplish what Trump is trying to accomplish but in a smaller away?
 

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It's not though. It not the racist agenda that he is referencing. It is the attack of free press, nationalist sentiment, and attempts to vilify enemies as against the nation.

If the press had honestly covered Obama instead of letting everybody know that they got a tingle up their leg when he spoke, maybe the press would be viewed in better light.
 

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Not sure if this is more Orwellian or Nazi but disturbing nonetheless. Of course 46% of voters think this **** it cool. Just Donald being Donald......

Orwellian" is an adjective describing a situation, idea, or societal condition that George Orwell identified as being destructive to the welfare of a free and open society. It denotes an attitude and a brutal policy of draconian control by propaganda, surveillance, misinformation, denial of truth, and manipulation of the past, including the "unperson"—a person whose past existence is expunged from the public record and memory, practiced by modern repressive governments.

Looks pretty damn big to me and if you want to add the TV ratings it certainly was a very big. In fact the second most you were since 1981 when Reagan was inaugurated


(Interactive Gigapixel Image HERE)

The New York Times and Trump Press Secretary, Sean Spicer, appear to be in an argument over the crowd attending the President Trump inauguration. In the politicized era of jaw-dropping media bias, fake news and constructed Potemkin villages, does this come as a surprise.

Generally speaking, most intellectually honest political followers/researchers already anticipated a massive amount of DC-based hostility in all things related to President Trump. After all, Hillary Clinton won the DC vote with 91%, and only 4% of DC residents supported Donald Trump –LINK



Pause. Consider the disparity. Think about that for a moment.

WASHINGTON DC VOTE: 282,830 Clinton (91%), 12,723 Trump (4%) Trump. That’s more than a 22:1 ratio of Clinton supporters -vs- Trump supporters amid DC residents.

It’s Washington DC. Political shenanigans should always be anticipated – it is just how DC rolls. Slow-walking TSA screenings under the auspices of “security”, obstruction, annoyance, intentional delays and all manner of historic DC employee behavior is the norm – not the exception. Again, reference the statistical political ideology.


Seriously, have we forgotten the spiteful DC park closings during the “sequester” budget debate when DC authorities closed open space –including war memorials on “Memorial Day weekend- because they wanted to create the optic of impact from budget cuts. To wit, they put barricades around the National Mall, and transmitted warnings to kids in school about the zoo animals no longer being fed. Remember all that nonsense?

The behavior of federal employees in DC is nothing if not predictable. President Donald Trump is an existential threat to their interests; and by extension anyone who supports Donald Trump is antithetical to their interests. That is the correct background for the “optics” of crowd size.

However, all of that said – we can see a Gigapixel Image HERE [we can zoom in/out and drag the image etc.] of much of the area during President Trump’s speech and decide for yourselves.



Explore Interactive HERE
Despite the shenanigans Sean Spicer was correct. The crowd grew significantly just as the event began. Yes, this was mostly due to the crowd being intentionally delayed from attending. Yes, tens of thousands of people could not get through the screenings. Yes, the federal workers and DC Park and Security leadership made attendance more difficult than any previous inauguration.

Yes, every imaginable tool and technique was utilized last week to provide the maximum level of crisis and discomfort….
 
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You're better than this, comparing trump to Nazis is simply absurd

Why the constant attack on the press? Why attack the press for reporting the truth? WTF is he hiding? Why is he running scared? He controls the cards here. If he succeeds in 1/2 the stuff he has promised, he will go down as one of the greatest Presidents ever. Would you agree with that? Instead he has two folks running around attacking the press and throwing out **** like alternative facts with an issue nobody cared about except our president.

So yes, my comparison to the Nazi propaganda machine stands until he quits distorting meaningless information and attacking the press for reporting facts.

You read his tweets and read his juvenile comments on our intelligence community.....his words. no it isn't his fault. Damn Press
 

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He called her propaganda Barbie. What does that represent to you? Was Obama's mouthpiece a propagandist? When Obama tried to delegitimize FOXNews, was that not trying to accomplish what Trump is trying to accomplish but in a smaller away?
FOX news isn't bs? So, CNN is corrupt but FOX is solid journalism?
 
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Looks pretty damn big to me and if you want to add the TV ratings it certainly was a very big. In fact the second most you were since 1981 when Reagan was inaugurated.
Yes, every imaginable tool and technique was utilized last week to provide the maximum level of crisis and discomfort….

WOW....we are talking about the attendance not the TV audience. Spinning this too I see. And I really don't care but since you brought it up, the 2009 ratings were bigger that Friday's from what I read. (but I haven't researched that)

The point is that there wasn't 1 to 1.5 million in attendance. The press' reports of up to 400,000 by all accounts is relatively accurate and supportable. But nobody cared until Tool Spicer got up and raged about the press.
 

Boomboom521

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Why the constant attack on the press? Why attack the press for reporting the truth? WTF is he hiding? Why is he running scared? He controls the cards here. If he succeeds in 1/2 the stuff he has promised, he will go down as one of the greatest Presidents ever. Would you agree with that? Instead he has two folks running around attacking the press and throwing out **** like alternative facts with an issue nobody cared about except our president.

So yes, my comparison to the Nazi propaganda machine stands until he quits distorting meaningless information and attacking the press for reporting facts.

You read his tweets and read his juvenile comments on our intelligence community.....his words. no it isn't his fault. Damn Press
I know you're moderate, but that's not allowed on here....it's conservative all the way, or you are a liberal in hiding. Skepticism directed at Trump or conservative policies is simply anti-conservative and anti-American.
 

WVPATX

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Why the constant attack on the press? Why attack the press for reporting the truth? WTF is he hiding? Why is he running scared? He controls the cards here. If he succeeds in 1/2 the stuff he has promised, he will go down as one of the greatest Presidents ever. Would you agree with that? Instead he has two folks running around attacking the press and throwing out **** like alternative facts with an issue nobody cared about except our president.

So yes, my comparison to the Nazi propaganda machine stands until he quits distorting meaningless information and attacking the press for reporting facts.

You read his tweets and read his juvenile comments on our intelligence community.....his words. no it isn't his fault. Damn Press

What part about the fact that the press is corrupt do you not understand. What part about the 91% negative coverage do you not understand? They have earned our distrust and deserve this treatment.

When the media starts reporting the facts and only the facts without their opinion attached, perhaps things will change. And to call her propaganda Barbie and then denied the Nazi comparison is simply absurd. You have to be better than this. But when liberals lose the argument that's what they do, call conservatives Nazis. It is so old, so tired and so intellectually lazy.

A reporter tweets yesterday that MLK''s bust has been removed ftom the oval office and that's no big deal to you, a simple mistake. It is much much deeper than that and I'm sorry that you don't see that truth.
 

WVPATX

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WOW....we are talking about the attendance not the TV audience. Spinning this too I see. And I really don't care but since you brought it up, the 2009 ratings were bigger that Friday's from what I read. (but I haven't researched that)

The point is that there wasn't 1 to 1.5 million in attendance. The press' reports of up to 400,000 by all accounts is relatively accurate and supportable. But nobody cared until Tool Spicer got up and raged about the press.

You're right, the first black president did have higher ratings. But his ratings in 2012 were much, much lower. And you do know that DC had very bad weather yesterday? Yet the people were still backed up to the Washington Monument, which the media said did not happen.

And for some reason you still trust the press. I have no trust in the press and the Park service provides zero estimates of attendance. What we do know for a fact is this was the second highest watched inauguration since 1981. Now, try and challenge that fact.
 

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I know you're moderate, but that's not allowed on here....it's conservative all the way, or you are a liberal in hiding. Skepticism directed at Trump or conservative policies is simply anti-conservative and anti-American.

A Moderate does not call somebody propaganda Barbie. That is a loaded term.
 

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FOX news isn't bs? So, CNN is corrupt but FOX is solid journalism?

FOXNews straight reporting is clearly unbiased. Shepard Smith is a liberal as is Chris Wallace, Who is a registered Democrat. CNN anchors are all liberals. Wake up.
 
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By the way, I watched the entire interview with Conway versus Chuck Todd and she destroyed him. I posted a picture by CNN that showed people backing up to the Washington Monument. I have no idea how many people were there nor does it matter. But I do know that 31 million people on TV watched the ceremony which was the second most in 36 years.

Trump's nearly 31 million television audience came 7 million short of Obama's 2009 inauguration, and had almost 11 million fewer viewers than when Reagan was sworn into office in 1981. Not bad ratings overall for Trump. But when he included the "aternative fact"of world-wide viewership, maybe he wins????
 
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A Moderate does not call somebody propaganda Barbie. That is a loaded term.

I don't like Trump. We all know that. I surely don't have any respect for a person who berated Trump for his negative campaign in the primaries and then grabs on when he starts to pull away. But if Propaganda Barbie or Sun Dried Conway is going to be a mouthpiece for "alternative facts" then I don't like her either.
 

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Trump's nearly 31 million television audience came 7 million short of Obama's 2009 inauguration, and had almost 11 million fewer viewers than when Reagan was sworn into office in 1981. Not bad ratings overall for Trump. But when he included the "aternative fact"of world-wide viewership, maybe he wins????

So he had the second highest viewership in 36 years and you diminish that fact? So very typical of a far left liberal. How many did your hero Billy boy Clinton have? How many did your beloved Obama have in 2012? Let me give you a clue, 10 million less.

When the press stops being corrupt, they will receive better treatment in the meantime they deserve everything they get. I actually thought you were a reasonable person until I read your Nazi comparison. Patently ridiculous and like I said intellectually lazy .
 

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WASHINGTON DC VOTE:
282,830 Clinton (91%),
12,723 Trump (4%)
That’s more than a 22:1 ratio of Clinton supporters -vs- Trump supporters amid DC residents.

NO ONE WANTED CHANGE IN DC...

bunch of idiots... the people should be in control, not the politicians...
 

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So he had the second highest viewership in 36 years and you diminish that fact? So very typical of a far left liberal. How many did your hero Billy boy Clinton have? How many did your beloved Obama have in 2012? Let me give you a clue, 10 million less.

When the press stops being corrupt, they will receive better treatment in the meantime they deserve everything they get. I actually thought you were a reasonable person until I read your Nazi comparison. Patently ridiculous and like I said intellectually lazy .
Geez Paxx, people tuning in to watch what crazy bs comes out of his mouth is different than showing up.
 

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Geez Paxx, people tuning in to watch what crazy bs comes out of his mouth is different than showing up.

Did you not see the pictures? Did you not know about the weather? Did you not know about the threats of violence from of course leftist?Viewership is just as important. my guess is you can't stand the fact that so many people watched the inauguration.
 

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Yeah nobody was spinning for Obama right, LOL. Liberals are so intellectually dishonest.
Did I say that???? Who is intellectually dishonest? The difference is the attack on "fake news" using lies...or ehm alternative facts. Did anyone for Obama use ANY of those terms?
 

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Did you not see the pictures? Did you not know about the weather? Did you not know about the threats of violence from of course leftist?Viewership is just as important. my guess is you can't stand the fact that so many people watched the inauguration.
I saw the pictures, and I think the side by sides weren't bs. But I'm with you on the fact that nobody should give a flying fig....esp or new President.