I understand, my interpretation was it stopped at the count. We got 8 seconds of hanging on for one stall call. That just seems like too much time.
PSU - Iowa '26 Match Thread
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I have to rewatch but pretty sure the announcers in the Minnesota Nebraska duel said Welch is now in the conversation to be 1. Undefeated beat number 1 national finalist and now you might be in the conversation. Total joke
Clearly Rocco hit the weights harder than Angelo. Did Angelo shake hands at the end, I didn't see him?
Remember when people here were wringing their hands about losing Ryder, we don't know who's better, etc.?
Good times, good times.
I did not put lose and I meant to but I did not know the two years between, that will have to change eventually if not I.......IDK, wow I guess.
Lewan was caught yawning.
I hear you and wish the rule would change, since obviously the refs won't call it on their own. Just don't have a lot of reason to believe it will change, because glaciers think the NCAA moves slowly.
Related: Mason Beckman's last college match was 10 years ago.
Luke looked good against a tough opponent who had beaten him previously. His finishes were crisp and he maintained a solid pace the whole match. The one area where I would say he struggled was in his ability to ride. It really wasn't a factor tonight, but I think that is an area where he can improve.
I was impressed with our two freshmen tonight. Going into CHA as a true freshman is no joke. Marcus wrestled a great match. He methodically converted for his TD and was great defensively. Ayala had that great slide by and Marcus did a phenomenal job of not giving up a TD there. Other than that slide by, Marcus shut Ayala's offense down. I agree with some of the other posters that Ayala looked like his old self tonight. Marcus is just that impressive of a freshman.
PJ looked good also in winning a hard fought bout. PJ was in on two shots that he might have been able to convert had he been a little more methodical, like Marcus was in his match. I did notice that PJ was allowing Williams to interlock the fingers of his left hand quite a bit, thus slowing him down. Also, PJ should not have forced that potentially dangerous call in the third with his Blair ride, especially after the official warned him. Without the PD stoppage PJ could probably have gone over a minute in riding time, if not ridden out the period.
I was impressed with our two freshmen tonight. Going into CHA as a true freshman is no joke. Marcus wrestled a great match. He methodically converted for his TD and was great defensively. Ayala had that great slide by and Marcus did a phenomenal job of not giving up a TD there. Other than that slide by, Marcus shut Ayala's offense down. I agree with some of the other posters that Ayala looked like his old self tonight. Marcus is just that impressive of a freshman.
PJ looked good also in winning a hard fought bout. PJ was in on two shots that he might have been able to convert had he been a little more methodical, like Marcus was in his match. I did notice that PJ was allowing Williams to interlock the fingers of his left hand quite a bit, thus slowing him down. Also, PJ should not have forced that potentially dangerous call in the third with his Blair ride, especially after the official warned him. Without the PD stoppage PJ could probably have gone over a minute in riding time, if not ridden out the period.
He has matched Starocci’s will to win!
The way I remember it. The Heil Rule differs from the Delgado Rule. Heil gave us the neutral danger. Delgato gave us the 5-second count on leg rides.
Security footage of an HR poster after JTS drops by for a pleasant visit:No you’re not. You’re sad because you’re getting less openings to get someone over there spooled up.
PJ wrestles with an attitude that you don’t see from many freshmen. He will smile and shake your hand before the match then spend the next 7 minutes trying to rip your arm out of its socket and beat you with it. One of the most physical wrestlers I remember seeing at that young age.
He had one stall call. Home ref, if he backs up at all or gets pushed out at the edge another stall call could have won it for either wrestler. I liked the call of going down. He earned the win.
Win, win.
We not only dominated tonight, but we also learned a lot. No team is better than Iowa at hand-fighting and holding position. It's been noted that they had only 2 TDs, but on the other hand, we were held to 1 TD or fewer in 6 matches.
We will learn from this and get better. None more than Duke. He's been relying a lot on his left-side underhook, and Williams took that away by grabbing his wrist/fingers ... something to work on.
We not only dominated tonight, but we also learned a lot. No team is better than Iowa at hand-fighting and holding position. It's been noted that they had only 2 TDs, but on the other hand, we were held to 1 TD or fewer in 6 matches.
We will learn from this and get better. None more than Duke. He's been relying a lot on his left-side underhook, and Williams took that away by grabbing his wrist/fingers ... something to work on.
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True, but Delgado also rolled around on his back forever in scrambles.
I’ve been saying here that going to a knee in neutral for longer than reaction time while not engaged or tied up should be an automatic stalling call. This typically elicits the moron response “but what about Robles?!?”, so also with the condition that you have two legs to stand on.
Brands addressed it in his post match PC in a way only he could. He was talking the whole time about needing to be more aggressive to beat Penn State, so someone asked him about Angelo kneeling and basically doing nothing, and he said kneeling is Angelo’s style but he’d like Angelo to be stalking and initiating from one knee if he wants to kneel. LMAO. I’d love to see him trying to pursue someone while kneeling.
After the stall is called the riding time accruing also stops but they allow a few seconds for the bottom guy to escape with no riding time accruing until he blows the whistle to stop and restart. So AF did not get the escape point but Rocco only got 27 seconds of riding time as he was not accruing it for 3 seconds.
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And better angles
@SlipperyPete , you sir, provide amazing coverage. Thanks!
Ferrari looked like he was proposing to Rocco that whole match.
Frankly, I think they are just being reflexive from their many night time truck stop experiences in Iowa.
Here is AF leading the team in proper technique:
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He wants the moniker baby faced assassin. When he hears people calling Davis by that name, he says “hold my saki”.
The silence after every loss was deafening. Reminded me (a little) driving to the river dock to pick up my girlfriend during 9/11.
Thousands of people were walking around like Zombies saying...nothing. I Thought I was walking around as a movie extra that were ordered to be silent. Easily the eeriest experience of my life.
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Methodical. Cat playing with a mouse. Men vs. boys. It appeared in most matches, PSU guys were trying to get into tough positions just to see if they could get out. The difference in style and mind set is pretty startling vs. historically a great program. Iowa needs a change. They appear quite stagnant. Carver was pretty quiet. Cael brings the horses. Saw Ono was on the trip.BEST PROGRAM IN THE WORLD BY FAR
Shhhh Thomas! Don't shame him away. I need someone participating on this board with a level of wrestling knowledge commensurate with mine!!!
Cocaine is much more profitable.
You must not be married.
Exactly, same for Ayala. PSU fans had been acting as if these guys would come out and wrestle like total stiffs who are getting big-brothered by a bunch of lousy freshmen. None of Bailey's or Ayala's losses have been embarrassing.
More offensive than I thought they’d be
No taxes on tips at the Casey’s glory hole.From what I have heard...........That isn't entirely true. The amount of time spent on knees is directly related to the tip they receive. Simple math + time = Final earnings. Where have you been ?
Get your resume ready. There's going to be some coaching positions opening in Iowa.
Interesting that so many on this board are congratulating Brands on his honest and transparent interview. I don't disagree, it looks like he's hurting some and he knows that he's ultimately responsible for his team's failures (and I think that was true leading up to this dual, not just during or afterwards). BUT, he's basically blaming his guys for backing up and not having the mindset to score when it's precisely what he and his staff have filled their heads with for years. It's obvious to EVERYONE, Iowa fans included, that the current "Iowa style" is to stall and keep it close, then to go balls to the wall for 40 seconds at the end of the match to get ONE TAKEDOWN and to try to steal one. Everyone knows it including Tom himself, so to suggest that this is where the fault lies when he's only been encouraging an offensive/scoring mindset for the last week is a bit disingenuous. I said earlier in this thread that I don't hate Brands or even dislike him that much, but I do admit to the fact that I love him being the Iowa coach because I think it's unlikely to the point of impossibility of Iowa ever catching PSU again until/unless Cael retires and PSU makes a horrible coaching decision in replacing him (which is also HIGHLY unlikely given PSU's potential choices).
I also thought his defense of Ferrari's style was a bit off. I mean, OK, what's he going to say? "Yeah, that was embarrassing for Angelo and we've told him time and again to get off the knee and quit stalling. Well, now he's paid for it."? But still, he could have just as easily said, "Well, everyone has their own style and we try not to beat it out of them, but if you're going to be planted on the mat with one knee 2 inches underground, it's hard to score". And while Ferrari's the worst, there are other Iowa guys that do the same damn thing......
I also thought his defense of Ferrari's style was a bit off. I mean, OK, what's he going to say? "Yeah, that was embarrassing for Angelo and we've told him time and again to get off the knee and quit stalling. Well, now he's paid for it."? But still, he could have just as easily said, "Well, everyone has their own style and we try not to beat it out of them, but if you're going to be planted on the mat with one knee 2 inches underground, it's hard to score". And while Ferrari's the worst, there are other Iowa guys that do the same damn thing......
We actually don't know if Brands is teaching his wrestlers to try to keep it close and win in the last 30 seconds. What we do know is that he tolerates it. Brands could decide to keep the guys off the mat who stall, stall, stall. He should insist that Angelo wrestle to maximize his abilitiles and skills because the team needs him to be a bonus machine. Hopefully Iowa keeps the Brands boys in charge for as long as they want. It is amazing that the Brands boys were agressive wrestlers always looking to score and this is the team they put on the mat. Not sure how they look in the mirror.
My memory isn't that great, yeah Brands said that's Angelo's style. didn't he say that Angelo attacks from one knee, which is obviously a lie.
He’s another example of a Brands wrestler regressing, or at least plateauing.
You're right, I don't know for sure what Tom Brands says or does in his own wrestling room, but we've all seen the product over the last 15 years or so and I think it's fair to make the assumption that he IS teaching a style to keep every match close and "wrestling not to lose". It's become fairly apparent in the DNA of almost ALL of his wrestlers. And you're right, it's embarrassing, especially when you consider how aggressive he was as a wrestler. It's just inexplicable to me.
I really think that he HAS figured out that the gap has widened between PSU and Iowa and that it's not all the quality of wrestlers that each team has. I think he recognizes that the wrestle not to lose style is no longer a good style if you want to try to be competitive with PSU. Will he do anything about it? Can he do anything about it? Who knows, but I fear that he's waited too long and that the athletic department has probably lost all faith in him and his ability. Like I said before, I don't want Brands to be fired, because I'm reasonably confident that he'll never close the gap.