PSU - Nebraska '26 Match Thread

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I didn’t say I did. I just said I don’t need Cael to form an opinion. Why are you being such a douchebag? We’re all friends here.


But until you both actually get a real username I don't know who to f++k believe.
 

Nittany.Lion

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This is where you come off as simple. I’ve repeatedly said Braeden was immature and wrong. You can run to your girlfriend’s defense all night but I’m also judging Brock. You can love on Hardy all you want, but I thought it was a punk move.
How many times did Bo Nickal do the same as Hardy?
 

eddy line

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I am definitely in the group of pre Cael PSU wrestling fans, and there isn't any doubt they were off last night. The being off was a planned stressor though. It does seem to me for the most part they wrestled through it and found a way to be successful.
Who was off? LL, MM, Rocco & Barr looked good. Blaze did well, too, against a wrestler intentionally trying to slow things down. Cole, Davis, SVN & Levi went chalk. That leaves PJ, & his loss wasn’t a shocker.
 

Psalm 1 guy

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As much as I do like folkstyle, the way passivity is called in neutral in freestyle produces a much better product. Taylor and Duke's match is a perfect example. PJ wrestled that match on his feet like he does his freestyle matches; forward pressure, control the center, get to his two-on-one tie, etc. Those tactics are rewarded in freestyle, but not in today's college matches. Taylor worked within how referees are enforcing stalling. Taylor repeatedly smacking the side of PJ's head to sidestep PJ's advances is something I believe the referees should prioritize as stalling. It is just another version of avoiding wrestling action.

The folkstyle product is much better when referees are proactive in their stalling calls. This has been an issue since at least after Cael's college career. Back then referees were quick to call stalling. When was the last time you saw someone stalled out of a match? The current application of stalling is really pushing me more toward freestyle. So many college matches these days are very frustrating to watch, and that is a shame because the proliferation of low scoring, defensive matches is a self-inflicted wound.
 

Nitlion1986

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Yes. Ref was on the wrong side of the move and failed to swipe. Could have swiped 3 and swiped 1.

combined with giving Taylor too much reaction time that was 5 points the ref left uncalled. The TD was BS. Antrell’s reaction did occur but it didn’t change the hold. IMO the ref gave Antrell 2 reactions.
"the ref gave Antrell 2 reactions."

Best description of the TD non call I have read.
 

District 4

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Sorry, Taylor was stalling, he never looked to score the entire match. What Taylor did was make it very difficult for Duke to get any offense going without having it blatantly obvious that he was stalling. Duke needs more diversity in his neutral attacks and definitely needs to improve on top.

Congratulations to Taylor, he utilized a game plan to beat Duke in January that will most likely not be successful in March when it really matters.
I think the best 157 pounder in the country is redshirting for us
 

Nitlion1986

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Then why was Ferrari wearing red anklets? He was the only wrestler that I noticed wearing them.

There was also a previous BJC match where there were no anklets worn in the first five matches, but they were worn by every wrestler after the break.

I don’t have FLO or B1G+, so I don’t watch every match, but I‘ve only seen the absence of bands at some BJC duals.
Ferrari's were just decorative ankle monitors.
 

Nitlion1986

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To all the aficionados, isn’t it this time of year when Cael really ramps up practice and conditioning as they ready for the stretch run? Several guys uncharacteristically looked a bit gassed at the end of their matches. Just part of the process…
Good take. There have been a lot of high level training during the past several weeks, but the competition was not all that stressful. I wasn't expecting to see a cardiovascularly stressed team last night. But starting with Blaze wrestling to win and conserving energy I started to wonder. Davis looking like a world beater until his gas tank hit empty, Van Ness who never looks tired looking sluggish and clumsy, Duke looking exhausted. Mesenbrink, Levi, Rocco, Barr and Mirasola all hit spots where they looked tired, sluggish and even clumsy. A retired centre county wrestling coach was sitting next to me and we were talking about our surprise that Cael would choose this match to really stress them before competition. Taking everything into consideration I thought they wrestled great and a few younger guys learned very important lessons and a few vets relearned older lessons.
 

OldMatCoach

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As much as I do like folkstyle, the way passivity is called in neutral in freestyle produces a much better product. Taylor and Duke's match is a perfect example. PJ wrestled that match on his feet like he does his freestyle matches; forward pressure, control the center, get to his two-on-one tie, etc. Those tactics are rewarded in freestyle, but not in today's college matches. Taylor worked within how referees are enforcing stalling. Taylor repeatedly smacking the side of PJ's head to sidestep PJ's advances is something I believe the referees should prioritize as stalling. It is just another version of avoiding wrestling action.

The folkstyle product is much better when referees are proactive in their stalling calls. This has been an issue since at least after Cael's college career. Back then referees were quick to call stalling. When was the last time you saw someone stalled out of a match? The current application of stalling is really pushing me more toward freestyle. So many college matches these days are very frustrating to watch, and that is a shame because the proliferation of low scoring, defensive matches is a self-inflicted wound.
A Push out rule would solve a lot of folkstyle's problem.
 

El_Jefe

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Yes. Ref was on the wrong side of the move and failed to swipe. Could have swiped 3 and swiped 1.

combined with giving Taylor too much reaction time that was 5 points the ref left uncalled. The TD was BS. Antrell’s reaction did occur but it didn’t change the hold. IMO the ref gave Antrell 2 reactions.
Fans gave Antrell many more than 2 reactions, so just further proof of the ref's passivity.
 

darkknight

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Dude - sorry I couldn't resist

Did you watch the match at a sports bar last night and just stay way too late afterwards? Cael just called and said it's clear that we all have to tighten things up on this board after this performance 😀

Harding, who the heck is that guy?

And PJ wrestled Taylor, Levi beat Minto.

Otherwise, good points!

PS - I hate when guys nitpic my posts, I forgive you. It's all good.
Sorry! Made some name mistakes, but you know who I'm referring to. I wasn't at any bar, and I don't drink. It's called an error, and people make them. And if you hate nitpicks, why did you just do it? Not cool, man. Be a better human. Just trying to contribute to the board and engage with my fellow wrestling fans.
 

RBOld

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It's really on the refs to stop the stalling and they have to realize that there are more ways to stall from neutral than going out of bounds. Taylor would just disengage, get far enough away to prevent PJ from trying anything and circle. Yeah he's not on the edge but he's not presenting himself in any way. The one time they did get into a scrap PJ all but had him but he bailed. It sucks but maybe PSU needs to focus on trying to get stalling calls early in matches.
 

JakkL

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once the PJ match reached the third period, I said to my wife there's no way this spineless ref is calling a stall on antrel no matter how much he stalls. Didn't want to determine the outcome. Then for Mitch's match, I said the ref is going to call several to make up for it!
Yeah. The problem is that by NOT calling stalling he is determining how the match is wrestled.
 

JakkL

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I disagree. Hardy is a class act. It may have been a mistake but I didn’t interpret that as a punk move. More likely an acknowledgement that Davis gave him a battle. Not the best move, but sometimes you do things that you don’t think entirely through with no ill intent. That’s something I could see Mitchell doing inadvertently and it being taken the wrong way.

Davis was wrong and reacted poorly. It’s not a huge deal to admit that as a PSU fan. It’s also a little baked into his DNA and it’s ok to admit that as well. The coaches certainly are aware of it.

Sometimes our guy does something stupid. It’s not the end of the world. It’s also warranted when other fan bases get upset about it.
The stomach tapping is bad sportsmanship. He would've been fine if it was on a knee or back or shoulder. Tapping his stomach was wrong.
 

Roar More

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Ferrari will not be a threat at Big 10s or Nationals as he does not have the gas tank to last. However, from where I sat, he did appear to have a spare tire. His attempt to get a breather for non-existent blood should have been called for the stalling it was.

The ref seemed to be operating in a time warp. He was slow to get into position to give swipes and was a match late in calling stalling. Or maybe he was just too much of a coward to call a stall that would affect the outcome of a match... therefore affecting the outcome of a match.
 

Nitlion1986

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Who was off? LL, MM, Rocco & Barr looked good. Blaze did well, too, against a wrestler intentionally trying to slow things down. Cole, Davis, SVN & Levi went chalk. That leaves PJ, & his loss wasn’t a shocker.
If you didn't see pretty much everybody being a little off and or looking a little uncharacteristically tired - well OK. We watched the same match with two separate appreciations of what was manifesting before our eyes.
 

NittanyChris

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I disagree. Hardy is a class act. It may have been a mistake but I didn’t interpret that as a punk move. More likely an acknowledgement that Davis gave him a battle. Not the best move, but sometimes you do things that you don’t think entirely through with no ill intent. That’s something I could see Mitchell doing inadvertently and it being taken the wrong way.

Davis was wrong and reacted poorly. It’s not a huge deal to admit that as a PSU fan. It’s also a little baked into his DNA and it’s ok to admit that as well. The coaches certainly are aware of it.

Sometimes our guy does something stupid. It’s not the end of the world. It’s also warranted when other fan bases get upset about it.
Davis was definitely wrong and way overreacted. That's on him. That doesn't absolve Hardy from his move. He's been around long enough to know that would not be taken well after you just pinned a guy. I never loved it when Bo would help a guy up after pinning him. You can't tell me that Bo at least didn't suspect that would not be taken well by the other guy. There's plenty of wrong to go around for opponents and Penn State guys as well. They're all basically just kids, after all. Well, except Hardy who is 26.
 
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darkknight

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Dude - sorry I couldn't resist

Did you watch the match at a sports bar last night and just stay way too late afterwards? Cael just called and said it's clear that we all have to tighten things up on this board after this performance 😀

Harding, who the heck is that guy?

And PJ wrestled Taylor, Levi beat Minto.

Otherwise, good points!

PS - I hate when guys nitpic my posts, I forgive you. It's all good.
Names fixed. Happy. All good, Dude. 😂 And Cael actually said that quote. Read the article on BWI.
 

Aardvark86

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Watching my dogs get at it a bit. Walter is definitely Taylor and Charlie is pj. Charlie is the better dog.
 
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I do enjoy your commitment to your vow to make Hardy older with each successive post.
I always try to keep it somewhat funny. After a night’s sleep, I’ll give Brock a pass. While I didn’t like the belly pat, I’ve always thought he was a classy dude. Maybe my take was colored by my hatred for Manning.

Next time, I’ll give my firearm to @Psalm 1 guy, get 2 good sleep cycles, and then post.
 
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Rmg975

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Davis was definitely wrong and way overreacted. That's on him. That doesn't absolve Hardy from his move. He's been around long enough to know that would not be taken well after you just pinned a guy. I never loved it when Bo would help a guy up after pinning him. You can't tell me that Bo at least didn't suspect that would not be taken well by the other guy. There's plenty of wrong to go around for opponents and Penn State guys as well. They're all basically just kids, after all. Well, except Hardy who is 26.
Yet, not a single person Bo ever did that to reacted like Davis. This is a Davis problem. He intentionally kicked Hardy over a tap. I wish some people on the board would stop trying to justify or soften his actions and also stop trying to make Hardy a villain here. This is why some online lump all PSU fans together when the majority of us know Davis was entirely wrong.
 

District 4

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Yet, not a single person Bo ever did that to reacted like Davis. This is a Davis problem. He intentionally kicked Hardy over a tap. I wish some people on the board would stop trying to justify or soften his actions and also stop trying to make Hardy a villain here. This is why some online lump all PSU fans together when the majority of us know Davis was entirely wrong.
Yet nobody has tried to absolve davis lol.