Mitch gonna pin everyone in nationals. LOL. He's been building towards it all year. Did you see the bewilderment on his face when the guy took top down 14-0 knowing that the escape would be the match?
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yes.... he legitimately broke young! It was fun to watch and a literal take down clinic!
LOL or when he explained the rules of an arm bar to the ref.... Mitch is so cerebral and fun to watch.... enjoy this ride!
Even "not getting embarrassed" is the furthest thing from their mind in a tournament, especially if you're talking about the finals where Mitch and Cali typically meet. They're going to be throwing everything they have out there to win.
I didn't mean slow like boring. I meant slow like scoring takes longer. I agree they are entertaining, but he can tech fall faster than pin.
Not really. Many believe the only path to victory is to keep it close, i.e. within 1 TD going into the 3rd. "Not getting bonused" and "not getting embarrassed" fall under that same umbrella.
No, that falls under "doing whatever they can to win", which is entirely different than just trying to keep it close to avoid bonus or avoid "embarrassment", which does happen occasionally.
throwing everything they have but being realistic and knowing that everything you have may not be enough.... so slow it down... tie up...stall... force him to make a mistake and if he does then i can capitalize..... this is very different than how Cali would approach any other wrestler in the country... hoping to just keep it close and forcing a mistake - while not getting pinned or turned.... effort will be there but approach is not just caution to the wind bc that will fail miserably
"throwing everything they have out there to win" and "doing whatever they can to win" seem like two different things to me.
No, not really. That means the same thing, and even if both mean being more cautious and defensive than normal, that's different than being defensive and stalling just to avoid a bonus or embarrassing loss. In the former, if you're behind at the end of the match and the defensive approach didn't work as planned, you're going to pick up the pace to desperation pace even though it probably will end up with a major or tech or even a fall. In the latter, you stay defensive and are satisfied with a 5 or 6 point loss.
Not doing whatever they can....but doing what they can to just keep it close and hoping for a prayer - fluke- mistake from a superior opponent... is definitely not wrestling to win.... it is wrestling not to lose and that is not the same thing! But point taken... I should have probably worded that differently
Moore wrestled Bo in the dual believing he could and would win. The pin was about inevitable as you could get. In the finals of the Big10s and especially in the NCAAs he did nothing. It was almost like he told Bo I will do nothing if you please don't embarrass me.
In a tournament, sometimes, it has to do with an honest evaluation of where you are in comparison to your opponent. I will use Trent Hidlay as an example. Trent Hidlay wrestled defensively and on the edge of the mat against exactly one opponent. That opponent was Aaron Brooks, who he lost to in 4 National Tournaments, twice in the finals. I may not like it, and it's not fun to watch, but, he obviously felt that his best chance at a victory was to try to keep the match as close as possible and give him an opportunity to win it in the end. Again, I might not like it, but, I completely understand why a wrestler/coach would use this strategy in a situation where they feel they are out-matched.
Absolutely agreed when it's a one off and the said wrestler actually has a snowflake's chance in hell of pulling it off (Hidlay did have some small chance against Brooks for instance), but I think most of us dislike the mentality when an entire team (most of whom don't have a snowflake's chance in hell) do the same and it's obvious that it was never about winning, but about trying not to embarrass themselves. Well, I may be odd, but to me stalling for 7 minutes to lose 4-1 is more embarrassing than getting your *** kicked by actually trying to wrestle.
or Hidlay didn't want to wrestle the edge it was just that Aaron forced him to it as he found no openings to shoot....
As a mediocre wrestler, my only advantage was that I couldn’t be embarrassed. Quite liberating in hindsight.
Outside of wrestling, that’s actually one of the principles I tried to imbue in junior when he went off to college.
(Last night he called to say he got his job offer at the place he was hoping for!)
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Penn State has won 82 straight matches and posted seven shutouts so far during an 11-0 start. Will those numbers grow against Nebraska?
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Ha, I was trying to find a way to put it on the preview video yesterday and was struggling, but that's a pretty good way to do it.
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Has anyone heard a weight that AJ is weighing in at? HE looks really thick but not super big. I will say he has that crazy forehead ridge.
Google says he has self-reported ~235, but I don't see official weigh-in data.
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Nebraska lists Kohler as its starter at 125.
Never saw that before. I am a little envious of the thick hair, but not having to pay to get my hair cut the last few decades has really paid off!
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Nebraska lists Kohler as its starter at 125.
They also have an 'or' at 285.
Yes, but that is standard in their match notes that I went back through. Not sure why, but it never seems to apply. The other listed wrestler hasn't competed in a dual since December.
Probably planning for certain types of foreseeable risks associated with Ferrari.
Maybe because Ferrari is a ticking time bomb and they can't predict when he'll go off next. That plus Ziola (one of their top 2025 recruits) still has 1 free shirt date left.
I'll go with the PSU Wrestling Intern approach to the roster here: they once listed "or Ziola" because of some Ferrari issue, copied/pasted from there out, and never bothered to edit it.
Its a contingency in case AJ is arrested on his way to the match.
If anyone is going to the match I would actually appreciate it if they would post photos of fans wearing prison jumpsuits or similar garb.
AJ will be motivated... coming off of his lost to Feldman... which he took the ownership for a team loss... he will be here motivated.... Great litmus test for COLE. either way... I think cole beats him in the BIGs and NCAAs (if the face each other) but looking forward to this match...
So not really a size advantage over Cole. Cole seems to be able to go with anyone in his range. Good test.