Punt returner???
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Default is selection made usually automatically or without active consideration due to lack of a viable alternative <remained the club's president by default> Are you saying there aren't other options? I think you are mistaken. I think it will be Timmons, but not by default, he will win the job!
Looks like Timmons, maybe C. Walker and possibly King. Whoever can catch it will probably get the job.
One of the most important parts of the game that, unless there is a muff, go unnoticed by many fans. That is to say most fans take catching a punt as a "given". However, letting it hit the ground usually gives up field position and a muff usually gives up points.
It takes somebody who is not only sure handed but very confident in his ability to catch it. Without the confidence factor you are apt to let some bounce that should have been caught.
Peace
It takes somebody who is not only sure handed but very confident in his ability to catch it. Without the confidence factor you are apt to let some bounce that should have been caught.
Peace
If it's Timmons then I concede the season right now and all hope is lost. I felt as if they put him at returner last season just so he could have a role on the team since he was buried on the depth chart. One of the many inexcusable special teams decisions last season. I've never felt more squeamish about an upcoming football play in my entire life the way I do when I see Timmons standing waiting for a return. Maybe he's a decent WR this year who knows. But he's always been a terrible returner in college.
I know that the staff was trying Mike Edwards back as a punt returner late last season. However I doubt that we see him back there, based on how valuable he is to the defense.
Anyone else remember last season when he called a fair catch at the one yard line last season against Florida I believe? Maybe Mizzou. Never booed a player on my own team so hard in my entire life. Just inexcusable. But not as inexcusable as the coaches continuing to put him back there after he called the fair catch at the 1. That play pretty much summed up Timmons career at UK and especially his punt returning ability. Give me the return man who doesn't call fair catches at the 1 yard line.
and give me the "fan" who doesn't boo their own player "ever so hard in their life"!
I agree that Walker should return punts. He may not have elite speed, but he has the hands and is fast enough and is tough to bring down.
Walker is really dependable. I watched him all the time in the pre game warm ups. Catches everything. He would practice catching them one handed and over his head. Amazing hands
At least your constant negativity is stated in an articulate way though not always cohesively sensible.
Sanantonio cat...you may not agree with his delivery but what did he say that wasnt true??? I say all valid points
Nice to see you come right out and admit that you boo your own players, but it wasn't really necessary, I already knew that you were the type from all your posts.
How many punt return yards do you have against major competition?
The boo's weren't far and few between and drinking definitely intensifies those emotions. It was an unacceptable play. It was the only time in my entire life I've felt the need to boo our own. I mean anyone that's so sensitive that they see a major problem with someone booing its own player then that's just the sissified world we live in I guess. I spend tons of money on the university, season tickets, parking passes. I don't see any wrong in it. No one was even offended by my booing. I'm actually just a realistic fan. That's it. I wonder how many bengals fans booed burrfict. Or how many fans booed Buckner. Or what about the fans who booed ARod? It's a part of the game. Calling a fair catch on the one yard line is the poorest most boneheaded play I've just about ever seen. If that didn't deserve a boo then I don't know what does.
Ill refer you to my previous world. I understand what's wrong and what's not in life for the most part, if you decide to be that sensitive. That's your choice. All I know is I've been pouring money into the university since the Morris days. Which includes the joker years. Which means I've stuck it out thru a lot. I have the right. What about the fans who booed joker? Doesn't make them a bad fan. If a player can't endure some boo's for making the most boneheaded of plays. Then they need to get out of competitive sports. Especially if they're getting paid (education costs a lot these days).
Did you see last season? I swear we were lucky if we kept the ball and didn't lose 10 yards from penalties. We very well may have had a negative net return average on punts after penalties last season. I was very thankful that we had Charles Walker with the ability to consistently catch a punt last season. In fact I was thrilled we had such as asset after what we had been dealing with.
We used to have positions filled by default, that doesn't really happen that much any more, we have several options. Walker is the surehanded return man that won't go the distance often but won't lose a lot of yards, Timmons the one that has the speed and elusiveness to break one, hard to beat him if he uses his head and catches it, some new speedsters that may usurp him, King looks to have all the tools.
He said: "If it's Timmons then I concede the season right now and all hope is lost. I felt as if they put him at returner last season just so he could have a role on the team since he was buried on the depth chart. One of the many inexcusable special teams decisions last season. I've never felt more squeamish about an upcoming football play in my entire life the way I do when I see Timmons standing waiting for a return. Maybe he's a decent WR this year who knows. But he's always been a terrible returner in college."
You concede the season because you don't have a good punt return man? All hope is lost, Barker can't turn out to be as good as his 5.9 hype, with all the weapons he has? There are several players on the team that will have a bigger impact on our season than one WR or returner.
Sure, coaches making a fortune put a player out there that they have no faith in. and I seem to remember him catching quite a few passes last year, he wasn't "buried" on the depth chart.
He was an amazing returner in high school and still has the tools to be one in college, I don't think a lot of fans have questioned his raw talent, I have seen some great plays by him.
Being a UK fan really isn't for the squeamish or faint of heart,
Just the way I am, but I have no respect for fans that boo players, go watch a movie and boo the villain.
Perhaps these are several of the reasons SanAntonioCat didn't like his post.
Ill voice my displeasure after repeated bone beaded plays/ decisions always have always will.
I wonder how many upset fans yell at their tv during games on here that are upset over some booing. Lol if you was at the stadium you would be yelling or booing as well if you cared about the program. If you clapped and told him good job keep up that excellent play on the field then guess what he will continue to get worse.
If i was him id want to be pushed and the crowd is more pressure than the coach. Especially for many of our players because it seems no matter how awful they are playing they will continue to play.
I wonder how many upset fans yell at their tv during games on here that are upset over some booing. Lol if you was at the stadium you would be yelling or booing as well if you cared about the program. If you clapped and told him good job keep up that excellent play on the field then guess what he will continue to get worse.
If i was him id want to be pushed and the crowd is more pressure than the coach. Especially for many of our players because it seems no matter how awful they are playing they will continue to play.
Sorry but booing your own team of college players is low class. Doesn't surprise me that you boo players with how negative you are about everything around the program.
Timmons was hurt most of the year but don't let that keep you from making an arse out of yourself.
Timmons was hurt most of the year but don't let that keep you from making an arse out of yourself.
Umm. Yea Walker is never going to go the distance. But he's also never going to get a few yards. He calls a fair catch on every punt (not that it's a bad thing). That was his job. Just catch the punt and don't give the ball away. But he'll never get yards.
He was hurt most of the year???? In the beginning of the season too? Please. How many games he miss? Gotta love how sissified many are these days. I'll boo my future 8 year old son if he calls a fair catch on the one. Not negative, realistic. As far as basketball goes. I'm not negative AT ALL. Why? Because we're great. When you're good/great why be negative? But in football we usually suck. So yes until we do something, until stoops proves he's even a halfway competent head coach (he hasn't proven that he's a competent head coach), then I'm going to be negative. As far as I'm concerned he hasn't earned any praise. The in game coaching to this point has been PATHETIC. The game preparation (ie, we game planned for the other QB vs UL). If Stoops gives me a reason to believe in him I'll be the first to admit I was wrong about him. I want to admit I'm wrong about him. But damn yall the guy just looks clueless. He seems to always have that 'deer lost in the headlights' look on the sidelines.
If you're looking for someone to sugarcoat things, I'm not the one. Sorry I'm just not. I don't pay good money to watch people call fair catches at the GD one yard line. In every way shape or form that is just utterly downright STOOPid. Hopefully if he hears the boo's it'll motivate him to do better next time. Sorry but nothing about booing is low class once you reach the college level. These aren't high school kids. I'm not an old man yet I'm pretty young so I don't see the issue.. If I were 30-40 I would tend to agree that it's not right. But I'm not 30-40 so yea ill effing boo next time he calls a fair catch at the one believe that. People want to act like they're children. No. Just. No. They're men that better be able to handle some boo's if they want to call fair catches at the one. I heard people say terrible things when it happened. All I did was boo. It's a damn boo. I CAN believe how sensitive many of you all are. You still get breastfed sir? Serious question.
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-i will boo the hell out of a coach...adult/gets paid.
-booing college players is low rent, base behavior.
-in my considerable experience...most of the folks that boo kids at commonwealth are fat slobs/skinny little fellers that have had no high level (or any level for that matter) of success in athletic endeavor...or any other aspect of life.
-booing college players is low rent, base behavior.
-in my considerable experience...most of the folks that boo kids at commonwealth are fat slobs/skinny little fellers that have had no high level (or any level for that matter) of success in athletic endeavor...or any other aspect of life.
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I would like to see Juice get a shot or even Richardson - If King was able to catch - then he should be it - but I don' see them using him there.....it would be beautiful though IMHO - IF HE HAS THE HANDS FOR IT
I for one am rooting for Timmons. I'm from Frankfort and want to see the kid do well.
I definitely think he had some nagging injuries, but IMO his problems in the return game were about confidence. He lost it, and every punt became a mental thing.
If he's healthy and if he regains his confidence he can be dangerous in the return game. A PR touchdown might be the difference in a game this season, and one game could be the difference in turning the corner for Stoops and the whole team.
I definitely think he had some nagging injuries, but IMO his problems in the return game were about confidence. He lost it, and every punt became a mental thing.
If he's healthy and if he regains his confidence he can be dangerous in the return game. A PR touchdown might be the difference in a game this season, and one game could be the difference in turning the corner for Stoops and the whole team.
lol at all the people getting upset about booing a player. You people really think that booing a football player is that bad?! I'm sure the coach gave him more than a booing.
Someone mentioned something about what type of people boo players...guess the kinds that don't are the ones that are all for participation trophies. lol
It's life, get a freakin helmet and grow some damn thicker skin.
Someone mentioned something about what type of people boo players...guess the kinds that don't are the ones that are all for participation trophies. lol
It's life, get a freakin helmet and grow some damn thicker skin.
-not upset...just pointing out dirt-bag behavior.
-PARTICATATION TROPHIES!!!1!!!1. The war cry of the unacomplished....often roared by turds who have only competed for the last slice at the pizza buffet.
-willing to bet that most of the "i paid my money i can boo whoever i want!" posters in this thread are at least 40 lbs overweight and have never played sports past being the fat kid on the bench in high school in podunck county.
-PARTICATATION TROPHIES!!!1!!!1. The war cry of the unacomplished....often roared by turds who have only competed for the last slice at the pizza buffet.
-willing to bet that most of the "i paid my money i can boo whoever i want!" posters in this thread are at least 40 lbs overweight and have never played sports past being the fat kid on the bench in high school in podunck county.
Your need to belittle someone for belittling someone else is quite comical. So would it be safe to assume you were by far the most fit and athletic kid in your school, and probably earned a free ride to a major college for your given sport? Guessing you had a bad game, and got booed, and let it get to you instead of drive you, huh?
If a person over the age of 18 playing any level of competitive sport can't take the good (cheered) with the bad (booed) then they should probably find something else to do.
I honestly don't care who does it. What I care about is that someone is actually productive when they do it. Last year we just returned 11 total punts for a whopping 81 yards. Our rivals, on the other hand, returned around 23 punts for 230+ yards. Two years ago we returned more punts, but our average was atrocious. It's been this way for a while. We are just extremely unproductive when returning punts. They are a phase of the game that can entirely break an opponent and flip an entire field. It is good to be careful, but we also have to have someone back there that can grab some yards when he gets the room to do so.
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Allaboutheuk,
-apologies for offending the fat...im sure it is a glandular issue. Mea culpa.
-less of a need to belittle...more of a compulsion to rail against boorish behavior. Fire with fire if you wish.
-some of your assumptions are close...some are way off. Appreciate the effort.
-apologies for offending the fat...im sure it is a glandular issue. Mea culpa.
-less of a need to belittle...more of a compulsion to rail against boorish behavior. Fire with fire if you wish.
-some of your assumptions are close...some are way off. Appreciate the effort.
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How much you charge for your comedy shows? Your material is pretty good.
Hmmm...exactly how boorish is it, if you feel the need to "rail against"?
Glad some of my assumptions were close...wasn't that hard to get right. As for your assumptions of me...[laughing] You are either horrible at this or do it for laughs, which is it?
I agree, hate to see it hit the ground. Tentative guys also tend to muff more. I think Timmons has it until his first muff then Walker takes over.