and you have to cut one player already on scholarship and the on the team to open up that final scholarship. Which one do you cut? Do you cut someone older or do you go for someone in the younger classes? This doesn't include the option of sending a current signee to a prep school/juco route.
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and you have to cut one player already on scholarship and the on the team to open up that final scholarship. Which one do you cut? Do you cut someone older or do you go for someone in the younger classes? This doesn't include the option of sending a current signee to a prep school/juco route.
and you have to cut one player already on scholarship and the on the team to open up that final scholarship. Which one do you cut? Do you cut someone older or do you go for someone in the younger classes? This doesn't include the option of sending a current signee to a prep school/juco route.
i'd cut noone for that riek guy....who knows if he'll ever be the same...our team as is last yr came on strong, why f it up
Gene Swindoll said:
I'd say Smith, Lewis, and Riek have their scholarships right now. And cutting Holcombe was what got Riek his scholarship. If Sidney is cleared then for sure he has a scholarship on the table but that last scholarship we are trying to open up might be for him.
But yea we would get rid of Lewis any day for Sidney I know. Its just those three are cleared it appears and the only one in limbo is Renardo.
We could always ask him to pay a year if not since our medical staff is paying for his rehab and surgery (I'm assuming).
can a guy a who is currently on scholarship give up his scholarship and still be on the team, if he chooses to do so?
I'm guessing that Holcombe was given this option and decided to transfer.
If I had to cut somebody, I'd have to say Benock, as much as I like him as a player. For me, it is numbers. If we cut Twany, then we are all of a sudden not very deep at PG. I think it could be risky to cut Bailey with Riek being an unknown health wise.
I'm guessing that Holcombe was given this option and decided to transfer.
If I had to cut somebody, I'd have to say Benock, as much as I like him as a player. For me, it is numbers. If we cut Twany, then we are all of a sudden not very deep at PG. I think it could be risky to cut Bailey with Riek being an unknown health wise.
He would still count against the 13 "counters" as long as he is still on the team.
and Holcombe wasnt given that option.
and Holcombe wasnt given that option.
As long as Bost stays healthy Randy can take over when Bost is on the bench... I was just not that impressed with Twanny...
What did Beckham do? He signed with IUPUI and thought he could do better, so he went to prep school for a year. At least thats what i thought i read.HD6 said:
I swear ive heard of players going to prep school not because they need to for grades, but because they want to for improving their chances of being offered a scholarshio w/o having to go to JUCO.
You can graduate from high school and still not meet the minimum requirements for entering your college of choice, then go to prep school to work on your eligibility(Grades in core classes and ACT or SAT).
Don't tell big boy he is wrong...
Don't tell big boy he is wrong...
and then come to MSU after 1 year there?
I'm pretty sure that's legal, since he would have qualified out of high school. Now he probably doesn't want to do that, and he would waste a year of eligibility there (unless the JUCO redshirted him)
I'm pretty sure that's legal, since he would have qualified out of high school. Now he probably doesn't want to do that, and he would waste a year of eligibility there (unless the JUCO redshirted him)
but that class year is considered your "first opportunity" to enroll and starts your eligibility clock. You would actually lose a year of eligibity while at prep school for one year if you qualified and had a signed letter of intent. I think after 2001 amendments to the rules if you go a day MORE than one year to prep school after you have been eligible to enroll in Division 1 then you are out. No more college ball after that.
If Lewis is qualified to enroll and goes prep for whatever reason then he will give up one of his years of eligibilty to play in college. He may improve his skills or even his GPA(mute point if already qualified) but he's not very smart to give up one of his years unless he thinks he will leave early for the NBA.
That being said, I have no idea how the scholly counts on an eligible player.
If Lewis is qualified to enroll and goes prep for whatever reason then he will give up one of his years of eligibilty to play in college. He may improve his skills or even his GPA(mute point if already qualified) but he's not very smart to give up one of his years unless he thinks he will leave early for the NBA.
That being said, I have no idea how the scholly counts on an eligible player.
I really wouldn't want to lose any more players. If Lewis would go to prep school, then that would help. I would hope somebody would be able to pay their own way for one year. I don't know these player's family situations, but it would be great if somebody could pay their own way and stay on as a "walkon".
We need Twany to back up Bost. Yes, he may have been a little rough around the edges last year, but he was a freshman and I see a lot of potential in him. I like his size and physicality. I think he's going to be better than you all give him credit for.
I'd hate to lose Riley too. I bash Riley a lot, but he provides solid defense when he's in and he's good for an occasional shot here or there. I like Riley. I just wish he would shoot more.
Elgin Bailey. He's probably my favorite bench player because of the big smile he plays with. He's a big kid and gives his all on the court. Yes, sometimes the results aren't there but you can't knock his effort. Love this guy and wouldn't want to lose him.
So, my answer would be to see if Lewis will go prep or grayshirt and hope somebody can pay their own way. That's my answer.
We need Twany to back up Bost. Yes, he may have been a little rough around the edges last year, but he was a freshman and I see a lot of potential in him. I like his size and physicality. I think he's going to be better than you all give him credit for.
I'd hate to lose Riley too. I bash Riley a lot, but he provides solid defense when he's in and he's good for an occasional shot here or there. I like Riley. I just wish he would shoot more.
Elgin Bailey. He's probably my favorite bench player because of the big smile he plays with. He's a big kid and gives his all on the court. Yes, sometimes the results aren't there but you can't knock his effort. Love this guy and wouldn't want to lose him.
So, my answer would be to see if Lewis will go prep or grayshirt and hope somebody can pay their own way. That's my answer.
So one reason he's your favorite bench player because he smiles? I actually think he's our least skilled player and I would not mind seeing him leave. I don't think we'd miss anything with him and his line-drive hookshot gone.DynamicDawg said:
Yes. I like his attitude and his all-out effort. Team chemistry is important. Especially, if we want to make a big run. People like Elgin Bailey play in huge role in creating that team chemistry. I don't care if he's the last person on the bench (he's not). I like people like that on my teams.drummer8806 said:
Positive attitudes are vital to successful ventures. I know that is hard to comprehend on this board, but it is true.
A few are rumored to have flunked high school intentionally to get out of their letter of intent to change schools because of coaching changes or change of heart. I don't know of any who have completed requirements and graduated and still gave up a year to go prep.
From what I've read, I don't believe that high school graduation is a part of the equation as to whether you can go to prep school or not. It looks like each prep school has its own curriculum, and it's basically just another degree that you can get. Basketball players use it to gain college enrollment required credits without wasting two years of eligibility by going to JUCO.
Regardless, here's the piece I found interesting:
So my question is... Who is paying these absurd tuition fees for the typical high school basketball player? Are they on scholarship while at these prep schools?
Also...
Since the diploma mill explosion for college basketball starting a few years back, I wonder how much the "endowment" fund at these schools has also jumped.
I understand the concepts of chemistry and attitude just fine but I think that sheer playing ability is a greater commodity in the case of this team than chemistry. Let me explain my reasoning. If John Riek and Renardo Sidney both qualify then I think the positive effect of their playing ability would outweigh any negative effects on chemistry if Elgin leaves. The main reason I think this is because I believe the veteran leadership of Barry, Jarvis, and the others would keep the team chemistry intact well enough for us to succeed. That is my direction of thinking with regard to this particular subject.DynamicDawg said:
I don't think either Riek or Sidney qualifies. So, all of this discussion might just be a moot point. I can respect your opinion anyway though.
Beckham. I swear he signed with IUPUI, felt he could do better, and went to Prep School for more exposure and another chance at signing with a higher program.
The prep schools are littered with 2* prospects that are trying to get scholarships to any sort of D1 program. 5th year players that go there for a chance to compete in the top prep leagues with chances at signing a D1 scholarship. Now i dont know exactly who is 5th year and graduated versus who is 5th year and didnt graduate, but i cant seriously think that ALL of em are there for grades. I refuse to be that naive to prep basketball...nothing should surprise you in prep basketball these days, even someone going to prep school even if they dont have to.
The prep schools are littered with 2* prospects that are trying to get scholarships to any sort of D1 program. 5th year players that go there for a chance to compete in the top prep leagues with chances at signing a D1 scholarship. Now i dont know exactly who is 5th year and graduated versus who is 5th year and didnt graduate, but i cant seriously think that ALL of em are there for grades. I refuse to be that naive to prep basketball...nothing should surprise you in prep basketball these days, even someone going to prep school even if they dont have to.
he would have come in as a sophomore but he came in a true freshman according to the official website.
Yeah...im gonna raise the BS flag on that prep school explanation above. Its confusing enough to sound official, but just doesnt seem like it is.
I agree though, if that is the correct rule, then its absurd for someone to go that route.
I agree though, if that is the correct rule, then its absurd for someone to go that route.