Quay could start class as early as Tuesday
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Isn't the last day to add/drop classes already passed? I guess if it is those days he missed would just be counted as absences. Great news if true, though. Balis would have him up to 325 by the time September rolls around.
but from an academic standpoint, if he would be taking zero's for any missed assignments up to his enrollment/participation in class, would that be a wise decision? Granted, it has been a while since I was in school, but from the sounds of it, from my part-time student workers, it seems like teachers give less graded coursework these days, thus leaving a limited number of opportunities.
The bet is being handled between them since it's only one person. I really didn't want to handle the money anyway but I would have since so many people wanted to jump in on the action.
Liggns, Brown and Brown. That would be 29 and three are already here. So that leaves 26 commits for 22 spots. Who are the most likely cuts? (I would have to assume that Jefferson took another DL's spot that is currently committed.)
I thought we could sign 28 which is including the 3 Dec signees. So we have 25 spots right now with 23 committed. 2 left with 3 people rumored to be in the hunt - B. Brown, R. Brown and Liggins. If Liggins commits, I am sure room will be made somehow.
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/23478/new-oversigning-rules-wont-ruin-sec
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</div><div>Don't think the Dec signees mean anything different...still part of the class.</div>
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</div><div>Don't think the Dec signees mean anything different...still part of the class.</div>
"Loopholes remain, and you can bet coaches will find them.
For instance, there’s nothing in this new legislation that says you can no longer back-count players. "
For instance, there’s nothing in this new legislation that says you can no longer back-count players. "
Beginning next season, it is a hard 25 cap. For this season, you can back-count from the past two seasons, by the total # you were below 25 in one or both of those seasons. http://recruiting.blogs.g...timates-2012-class-size/
or anybody else that would put us over the limit (and the 29th puts us over) but we have a couple of commits that are still coming back from injuries that we might ask to greyshirt since they almost assuredly won't play this fall anyway AND we have one or two that are borderline to qualify that I guess we could choose not to sign if we think they are likely not to make it. So we have some options if it comes to that. With the hard 25 signing rule SEC coaches are going to have to be a little more "cold-hearted" about the signing process from what they have been in the past. Not their fault, just part of the brave new world the new SEC rules have put them into.
If that's the case then I guess there won't be many cuts. <div>
</div><div>ETA.. nevermind, its working now.</div>
</div><div>ETA.. nevermind, its working now.</div>
take Liggins(or the other qb if he goes elsewhere), one of the two Browns, and the wr Moore who likes us an Nebraska.Seems we are short a wr commit???</p>
Although it's not really 'backcounting'. Either way, December signees are counted with the previous February's signee total.<div>
</div><div>You can simply have 25 signees in a 12-month period. So if a team only signed 22 last February, they could sign 3 more in this past December. </div><div>
</div><div>But if a team only signs 23 this February, they then can sign 2 more this upcoming December. In January/February 2013, people will call it backcounting, but it's really just adding to the previous February 2012's total. Up to 25 over twelve months.<div>
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</div><div>You can simply have 25 signees in a 12-month period. So if a team only signed 22 last February, they could sign 3 more in this past December. </div><div>
</div><div>But if a team only signs 23 this February, they then can sign 2 more this upcoming December. In January/February 2013, people will call it backcounting, but it's really just adding to the previous February 2012's total. Up to 25 over twelve months.<div>
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Paul on 247 says that everything he's heard from the AD says you can back count every year provided you have room.
JabbatheGut1 said:
where it sad this part ...
SEC associate commissioner Greg Sankey confirmed Friday that players enrolling in January could conceivably be back-counted.
“It depends on what the institution has available,” Sankey said.
In other words, a school can still do so if there’s room.
MSU only 'enrolled' 22 last year, so they have 3 additional that can be counted against the last class ... at least, from what I understand.
It's only scout/rivals/247 that are saying we are signing 28 this round of recruiting because they already published their team rankings for 2011. As far as the SEC is concerned,State only signed 25 players in 2011 and will only sign 25 in 2012.<div>
</div><div>It's really as simple as that--25 signees in a twelve-month calendar year. </div><div>
</div><div>If a team anticipate's signing some early enrollee December JUCO's in December 2012, they better sign fewer than 25 in February 2012. If we sign 25 next month, we will not be able to sign any early enrollee JUCO's this upcoming December. </div><div>
</div><div>Another example--If OM only signs 20 next month because they anticipate problems with the 85 scholarship cap, they will be able to sign 5 more this December (if enough players leave), and in February 2013 it will 'look' like they signed 30. </div>
</div><div>It's really as simple as that--25 signees in a twelve-month calendar year. </div><div>
</div><div>If a team anticipate's signing some early enrollee December JUCO's in December 2012, they better sign fewer than 25 in February 2012. If we sign 25 next month, we will not be able to sign any early enrollee JUCO's this upcoming December. </div><div>
</div><div>Another example--If OM only signs 20 next month because they anticipate problems with the 85 scholarship cap, they will be able to sign 5 more this December (if enough players leave), and in February 2013 it will 'look' like they signed 30. </div>
Before I got transferred to State I had to get some paperwork done and I went to the classes before I was enrolled. Every class has at least one or two kids that are doing that. My teachers let me do the homework and they graded it once I was officially in.
If we enroll all 25byAugust, we will not be able to sign any early enrollee JUCO's this upcoming December.MedDawg said:
I don't see it as a loophole either, but the article referred to it as a loophole.
I thought the rule was that you could only physically sign 25 LOIs per year...regardless of how many actually enrolled. Actual signees were being restricted. Enrollees has always been restricted to 25 per class/year.
We can't sign more than 25 in a year knowing that some won't qualify and won't enroll in August. That was the old way--sign 30 and place a bunch of them. I think it's actually a letter of intent (LOI) signing cap. <div>
</div><div>What I wondered when the 25 cap rule was made: A lot of players don't commit until signing day.What if a school has 27 recruits fax in their signed LOI's on signing day? </div><div>
</div><div>I think one answer is the 26th and 27th signed LOI faxed in are simply invalid, no matter who they are. However,that means the SEC would be looking at fax time stamps to for the 24th, 25th, 26th, and 27th faxed LOI's.</div><div>
</div><div>Another answer is either the coaches won't send the LOI's to the two 'least wanted' (I hate wording it like that) recruits or the college coach would end up to telling the two least wanted recruits that their signed and faxed LOI's were not accepted. Those would be AWFUL for the left out recruits, especially on signing day. I guess they would then be scrambling to call their other offers to see if they could sign with them. </div><div></div>
</div><div>What I wondered when the 25 cap rule was made: A lot of players don't commit until signing day.What if a school has 27 recruits fax in their signed LOI's on signing day? </div><div>
</div><div>I think one answer is the 26th and 27th signed LOI faxed in are simply invalid, no matter who they are. However,that means the SEC would be looking at fax time stamps to for the 24th, 25th, 26th, and 27th faxed LOI's.</div><div>
</div><div>Another answer is either the coaches won't send the LOI's to the two 'least wanted' (I hate wording it like that) recruits or the college coach would end up to telling the two least wanted recruits that their signed and faxed LOI's were not accepted. Those would be AWFUL for the left out recruits, especially on signing day. I guess they would then be scrambling to call their other offers to see if they could sign with them. </div><div></div>
if we signed all 28 this year but only enrolled 27 due to a grade casuallty (with the 3 that are backdated). We could still backdate one next year. </p>