QUESTION: After Relf made that run to 1 yard line, he left the game
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Put him in the backfield to run the ball. On occassion, the surprise pass out of the wildcat could be effective. Plus, he would be an emergency QB down the depth chart. Relf can still have alot of value the next 2 years.
If he can catch, we can move him around in different places. Gonna have to learn more than 4 plays. Maybe he can do 8.
If he can catch, we can move him around in different places. Gonna have to learn more than 4 plays. Maybe he can do 8.
Tyson gives us a better chance to throw the ball than Relf, and Lee is less likely to pitch it at some crazy time, as Relf is prone to do.
Mullen was playing it safe, and rightfully so.
Mullen was playing it safe, and rightfully so.
going to have to read posts about Relf for the next 10 months? Team's need a 3rd or 4th string QB and that's where Relf will be.
Also, if we sign Newton, we won't need a Wildcat package. We will have a constant Wildcat in 6'6, 248 pound, 4.5 forty Newton.
Also, if we sign Newton, we won't need a Wildcat package. We will have a constant Wildcat in 6'6, 248 pound, 4.5 forty Newton.
because he can't block.
He might be able to learn a couple of really simple routes and play some as a WR, and like coach is saying run it out of the backfield, but that's likely to be the extent of it.
He might be able to learn a couple of really simple routes and play some as a WR, and like coach is saying run it out of the backfield, but that's likely to be the extent of it.
make a statement like it's fact, get called out on it, then come back with this weak ****? LOL. Pathetic.Coach34 said:
why is that so far fetched? He is a pretty good runner, and that's what he has done for essentially his entire football career, and he is a good athlete. He has some value, and playing RB would be more valuable than him being a 4th string QB. We'll probably use him as an occasional wildcat QB, and I still wouldn't be surprised if the staff eventually puts him in the slot at occasionally.
I think him being a TE is more far fetched than him being a RB, myself.
I think him being a TE is more far fetched than him being a RB, myself.
I think a few people are just jumping all over it being a stupid idea just because Coach34 is the one who said it will happen. It makes sense to me though. He's a good runner, a good athlete, and he damn sure won't be playing QB next year, especially if we sign Newton.
it was a stupid idea. i don't think ex-C34 was the first to say it either. i just think it's stupid to make a statement that you can't back up and then cop out on it.
"that is all"</p>
"that is all"</p>
do you think he has been doing back there in the gun these last two games? I must have missed him checking the cover 2 and hitting his hot read down the middle with Fla playing man underneathColumbus Dawg said:
Relf is being Ronny Brown for us right now...he is going to be a RB who might just possibly throw a pass once a game
And that's assuming he makes no progress as a QB. He's just not fit to be a physical, SEC running back. He doesn't have the build, isn't quick enough, runs upright, and just isn't physical enough. Sure, he's semi-physical as a running QB, but there's a big difference between a QB that runs the ball a few times a game and a RB who's running the ball 20 times a game. I just don't see us being that desperate at RB next year. We're constantly bringing in quality backs. Surely we'll have 3 or 4 better than Relf would be. </p>
But I guess I can agree. If you mean by RB a quarterback in the wildcat offense, then yes, he is now a RB. That formation is kind of redefining the traditional "laws" of football. I guess there isn't always a QB on the field anymore. But he will never, and I repeat, NEVER, line up in the backfield as a traditional running back. NEVER.
In the gun...exactly. Mullen has put together a little package for him at QB since he is a better runner than Tyson Lee and Relf does a pretty good job with it. Once Newton gets on campus that won't be necessary. You guys seem to be implying he will be one of the split backs like Dixon or Ducre and that is making me laugh.
I'm glad you guys aren't scouts. He's 6'3, runs upright, has no quickness, and has about 4.6 speed. </p>
I'm glad you guys aren't scouts. He's 6'3, runs upright, has no quickness, and has about 4.6 speed. </p>
Columbus Dawg said:
No one on here is saying that he's going to the NFL as a RB.
Relf MIGHT and that's a big might, go to a training camp or something, but that's about it.
What the hell else are we supposed to do in the SEC with a QB that can't throw, but can run? Besides, he has proven that he can run the ball against SEC defenses. He tore UK a new one tonight.
If you put Newton and Relf both in the backfield at the same time- which is something done in A-11 offenses, it would at least force the defense to worry about not only both running, but both throwing the ball as well. Just the threat of it would be effective even if we never have Relf throw. It's something else that the defense has to account for.
And no, I don't think Relf will ever be a AD type back or anything, but he can be effective getting 4-5 touches a game in various positions- QB/WR/RB. That's exactly what UK does with Randall Cobb, except that Cobb is featured more in their offense.
Versatility is a very good thing.
People bitched about Croom not being creative and wasting people like Derek Pegues, and are now trying to lampoon people for wanting to be creative? I don't understand that.
now you've got him possibly going to an NFL training camp?
Look, Relf does fine in the Wildcat if that's what you want to call it. But that won't be necessary next year with Newton under center. Newton is taller, bigger, quicker, faster and more of a threat to throw it.
There is nothing wrong with being a 3rd string QB. Heck, it will be great to have a decent option if someone gets hurt. But please don't put Relf and Cobb in the same category. Cobb is an elite athlete. Relf is a good athlete who has a specific package in place to help this year's team. That doesn't translate to WR or TE. I guess he could line up in the backfield next to Newton, but that would mean he is better than Conner, Ballard, Perkins, etc. and from what I have seen that will not be the case.</p>
Look, Relf does fine in the Wildcat if that's what you want to call it. But that won't be necessary next year with Newton under center. Newton is taller, bigger, quicker, faster and more of a threat to throw it.
There is nothing wrong with being a 3rd string QB. Heck, it will be great to have a decent option if someone gets hurt. But please don't put Relf and Cobb in the same category. Cobb is an elite athlete. Relf is a good athlete who has a specific package in place to help this year's team. That doesn't translate to WR or TE. I guess he could line up in the backfield next to Newton, but that would mean he is better than Conner, Ballard, Perkins, etc. and from what I have seen that will not be the case.</p>
He's not that kind of talent. But I can see what you're saying for the most part. They very well might try to develop some package featuring Relf at some position other than QB. I don't pretend to know what goes on during practice and whatnot. However, I do know that Relf isn't in the same category athletically as some of these guys you are comparing him to, e.g. Cobb and Pegues.</p>
i would like to see him at te or wr next year. i think he is athletic enough to where he needs to be on the field somewhere. just because he can't throw the ball does not mean he is not athletic. put him somewhere else.
you said the coaching staff said it, he asked you to show him where they said it, and you copped out.Coach34 said:
"that is all"
since when did the NFL stop inviting good athletes to camp? Heck, Lance Long got an invite to a NFL camp.
I'm not saying that Relf is as good as Cobb, or even Pegues for that matter. I'm just using them as a reference point as far as a position. All I'm saying is that he is a good athlete, and he can be a valuable player for us if can find ways to use his athleticism. I'm not even saying that he should start. We can't use his athleticism sitting on the bench- that would be a waste.
And are you saying that a guy who is a good athlete that is 6'3" couldn't possibly be a WR? Relf may not be able to catch a cold, but I would certainly at least explore that possibilty in the spring if I was Mullen.
I'm also not saying that he should be a starting RB either- but I could see lining him up there a couple of times a game. It's no more far fetched than putting a NT at FB for a couple of snaps. What? A guy has to be better than everyone else at that postion on the roster to line up at that position?
I'm not saying that Relf is as good as Cobb, or even Pegues for that matter. I'm just using them as a reference point as far as a position. All I'm saying is that he is a good athlete, and he can be a valuable player for us if can find ways to use his athleticism. I'm not even saying that he should start. We can't use his athleticism sitting on the bench- that would be a waste.
And are you saying that a guy who is a good athlete that is 6'3" couldn't possibly be a WR? Relf may not be able to catch a cold, but I would certainly at least explore that possibilty in the spring if I was Mullen.
I'm also not saying that he should be a starting RB either- but I could see lining him up there a couple of times a game. It's no more far fetched than putting a NT at FB for a couple of snaps. What? A guy has to be better than everyone else at that postion on the roster to line up at that position?
And I thought the mods kept c34 on the boards b/c "he knows sports."
How many 6'4" guys do you see playing RB?
Guys that make the best RB's are the short, 5'8"-6'0" type bowling balls with tremendous quickness and low center of gravity like Mark Ingram
How many 6'4" guys do you see playing RB?
Guys that make the best RB's are the short, 5'8"-6'0" type bowling balls with tremendous quickness and low center of gravity like Mark Ingram